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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 15:35:18
November 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#61
Unless FW's new ADC/Top are amazing or AHQ picks up something stupid like Domo for the jungle; AHQ with Chawy already looks like by far the best LMS team.

It'll be interesting to see what TPA does about this though; they have the resources to rebound from this loss but they just spent an entire split trying to make a team work around Chawy and now he's gone.
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#62
On November 07 2015 00:19 orzeu wrote:
Didn't Monte say that he will not be involved in coaching since he is owner?

He did but I assume it was because a) wants to focus on casting/owning b) doesnt want to remote coach again. Right not he has no League to cast though so I'm assuming it's different.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#63
He's almost certainly contributing unofficially anyway, especially with this Korea thing.
XDG Mata
EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 16:05:25
November 06 2015 15:49 GMT
#64
On November 06 2015 23:44 AlterKot wrote:
I mean it sort of makes sense because Monte's probably avalaible to actually coach them right now and maybe they treat it a bit like vacation and not purely bootcamp. But a thought of sending Alberto fucking Crumbz to Korea in hope he improves is pretty funny.


I hope Monte doesn't coach anything, RNG's coach is 100 times better than Monte at coaching. He should just stay as their manager or whatever he does. People probably don't know this yet, but Hermes is brilliant, super smart coach.

At any rate, I think the trip to Korea will be a great team bonding experience if nothing else. Help get people into the right mindset and what not.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 06 2015 15:55 GMT
#65
From his AMA:

No, I will not. The team already has an in-house coach, David "Hermes" Tu, whom I trust and the players respect. Between my three shows, casting four days per week, and managing Renegades I don't really have a lot of time to competently direct strategy.
I do watch some scrims and matches that the LoL team plays in, but the most I plan to do is give feedback directly to Hermes and he can choose if or how to deliver it to the players. As I see it, the team is his project and my meddling directly with the players would undermine his plans and authority. He's the coach and he's the one who needs to have the power to actually enact his plans, otherwise there is no reliable way to evaluate his effectiveness or identify where problems lie.
That said, I do plan to monitor the team's performance and receive reports from the coaching staff so that I have a good idea of what techniques are being used and if there are areas for improvement.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 06 2015 16:35 GMT
#66
Chawy in ahQ is like best thing ever happened.
But then again, with Lofs/Empt2 being banned, we're down to 2 good teams again unless HKES/TPA pull the trigger and use the money they have.

On November 06 2015 19:37 Fusilero wrote:


Tfw you were working on an LOFS hype article and he's banned with empt2, chunx and candy. At least stitch is a good boy and doesn't join teams while on contract

Unreal scenes where we're down to AHQ and FW anyway because Garena is banning the rest of the region :/


Mountain cries a river somewhere.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 06 2015 16:41 GMT
#67

RD is the frontrunner for the new AHQ jungler
Glorious SEA doto
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 17:01:36
November 06 2015 17:01 GMT
#68
Jankos just said on his stream that Cabochard and/or Forgiven are NOT joing Roccat, superteam rumours were false
You're now breathing manually
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 17:16:00
November 06 2015 17:05 GMT
#69
http://www.sport1.de/esports/league-of-legends/2015/11/league-of-legends-amazing-erwartet-keine-transfers-im-origen-roster

German interview with Amazing. He thinks there will be no roster changes for Origen, just coaching staff to be expanded. He and his team mates declined several offers already. Then he goes on to discuss authoritarian coaching in a critical manner.

Btw sport1 is the main German sports channel and suddenly has a ton of esports articles on their page. Most of it is rather superficial though.

Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 06 2015 17:27 GMT
#70
On November 07 2015 02:01 Sent. wrote:
Jankos just said on his stream that Cabochard and/or Forgiven are NOT joing Roccat, superteam rumours were false

I'm not sure what's Roccat's track record with lying about speculations but I'm not buying this 100% for now.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
November 06 2015 18:08 GMT
#71
With LMS' luck, Chawy in ahQ will be counterbalanced by a fleeing-the-mainland Taobao Quan as their jungler.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
November 06 2015 18:16 GMT
#72
Is LMS the only league that actually handles bans in a way that's the opposite of slap on the wrist?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 06 2015 18:18 GMT
#73
HKES got a slap on the wrist for their MSE fiasco with the thrown games and the sandbagging™

But besides that; the bans have been coming in hot and heavy from Garena this year
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 06 2015 18:42 GMT
#74
On November 07 2015 03:16 Saradin wrote:
Is LMS the only league that actually handles bans in a way that's the opposite of slap on the wrist?


Garena is acting way too strict. ~_~
If anything, it's Garena who's supposed to slap wrists while other leagues will handle bans properly, with amount of players in region.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 01:03:42
November 07 2015 01:02 GMT
#75
On November 06 2015 09:50 Caiada wrote:
Or you crash and burn, you get no viewers, get passed up in skill for whatever reason, and you're fucked because once the eSports career (really only what, 4 years *if you're very lucky?*) burns out, you've got no education and minimal experience. Boosting as an income source is popular for a reason.

Keane was decently popular and averages about 400-500, which, from what I know of Twitch, is not even livable.


What do Koreans do after the four years?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 07 2015 01:59 GMT
#76
On November 07 2015 10:02 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 09:50 Caiada wrote:
Or you crash and burn, you get no viewers, get passed up in skill for whatever reason, and you're fucked because once the eSports career (really only what, 4 years *if you're very lucky?*) burns out, you've got no education and minimal experience. Boosting as an income source is popular for a reason.

Keane was decently popular and averages about 400-500, which, from what I know of Twitch, is not even livable.


What do Koreans do after the four years?

Keane's case is weird though because he doesn't use his mic or facecam at all, so other than watching a high elo player play the game there's nothing unique about his stream. I like leaving his stream on on a second monitor/before I sleep cause he's got one of the dopest/chillest playlists of any streamer, but I think that for a pro player who streams as much/regularly as he does with the profile that he had on Gravity they'd be doing much better.

Not that you're really wrong about the potential for an esports career to crash and burn. Though I think if you market yourself right/have the right personality you could become a coach or whatever, even if the esports bubble "pops" I think we're at the point that any fledgling esport will generate a decent amount of money, could see NA esports pros emulate Korea in that BW pros become coaches for LoL, LoL players could become coaches for whatever the next craze is. Especially since at this point the coaching/analysis of this side is so thin you can make a real name for yourself as an analyst just by promoting yourself the right way, such as Montecristo and more recently yamatocannon did.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 07 2015 02:11 GMT
#77
YamatoCannon worked on Swedish TV for a year casting games, no wonder he got some skills there, lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 07 2015 03:18 GMT
#78
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snqb4d

More of CLG things, now Zikz saying that Aphromoo wasn't the guy to get Doublelift kicked alone.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 04:12:21
November 07 2015 04:11 GMT
#79
Wait can we put all other matters aside and just think about the possibility that GBM is gonna be playing on the same team as Cris? CLG and TSM swap ADCs? and we have a (pretty funny) joke of a basketball team and linkin park in the LCS.


NA is gonna be amazing next season
xd
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 07 2015 04:13 GMT
#80
Don't forget the distinct possibility CLG self-destructs again.
XDG Mata
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