EPTPro scene rumor mill 2016 Pre-Season - Page 100
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 24 2015 06:45 Numy wrote: Arg I hate league pushing subs. I don't want good players locked into not playing matches. Stuff like what happened in KR and CN isn't what I want. Sure sports use subs but who cares about sports. I want to watch the guys i like playing on teams not warming the bench streaming for fat money. At least using CS subs meant they weren't holding people back from playing games. If only 1 organisation could have multiple teams. Yeah subs is pretty stupid concept I think. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 24 2015 06:45 Ansibled wrote: So... uh... who are they supposed to use as subs? HiImGosu? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Furthermore I don't see how this even solves the problem. In my previous hypothetical nothing is stopping CLG from just signing NME's player unless I'm missing something. Sure they can't play for a little while but if you need a different player you're going to sign a different player | ||
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bbc23
United States416 Posts
On December 24 2015 06:45 Ansibled wrote: So... uh... who are they supposed to use as subs? The 30 players not in the CS? I'm not saying NA talent is that deep but there'll be plenty of players who got shut out of the CS by being on bad teams that the LCS teams can actually try to develop. Or they can ignore them and send them paychecks which is what will probably happen. On December 24 2015 07:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: Wait so teams aren't allowed to have more than one team AND they can't use their own challenger players as subs? I can kind of see not allowing say NME's mid laner to be CLG's sub as fine, maybe CLG scoops him up and fucks with the challenger scene. But to say that C9T couldn't be listed as subs for C9 proper is levels of stupid I can't get behind. Furthermore I don't see how this even solves the problem. In my previous hypothetical nothing is stopping CLG from just signing NME's player unless I'm missing something. Sure they can't play for a little while but if you need a different player you're going to sign a different player TL is the only team with a sister/B team in the CS, this really isn't part of the issue. If anything Riot should say affiliated teams can freely sub though (similar to the NBA/d-league kinda). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 24 2015 07:31 bbc23 wrote: The 30 players not in the CS? I'm not saying NA talent is that deep but there'll be plenty of players who got shut out of the CS by being on bad teams that the LCS teams can actually try to develop. Or they can ignore them and send them paychecks which is what will probably happen. So basically, send paychecks to guys who're already successful streamers, aka NB3, Gosu, Qtpie and so on, because you can't actually get CS players, who're getting "developed" and cba looking for almost nonexistent talent. | ||
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Kakio
Norway15 Posts
On December 24 2015 04:32 Slusher wrote: I have a feeling Gosu is on Ember. The mic thing had me thinking he's interested in getting serious, i mean why change now? I don't have inside info, it just feels suspicious to me He did mention he had seveal offers from CS teams and also a LCS team in a recent interview with Vulcun. blog.vulcun.com | ||
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Kakio
Norway15 Posts
On December 24 2015 07:31 bbc23 wrote: The 30 players not in the CS? I'm not saying NA talent is that deep but there'll be plenty of players who got shut out of the CS by being on bad teams that the LCS teams can actually try to develop. Or they can ignore them and send them paychecks which is what will probably happen. TL is the only team with a sister/B team in the CS, this really isn't part of the issue. If anything Riot should say affiliated teams can freely sub though (similar to the NBA/d-league kinda). Agreed. The ideal situation would be them having B teams in challenger that they could build and develop talent in while also having subs ready to step inn. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
It's a sub league where the main team can play and then occasionally they play actual challenger teams in a format that I don't think anyone has a hope of understanding. The best, really. Everybody's favourite Rioter commented on the situation. ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/m6wyA/7296562070.png) | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 24 2015 08:20 Ansibled wrote: I like Korea's take on sub leagues. It's a sub league where the main team can play and then occasionally they play actual challenger teams in a format that I don't think anyone has a hope of understanding. The best, really. Everybody's favourite Rioter commented on the situation. I mean, this kind of shit is just the nature of the game. Journalist publishes article revealing X change. Community outcry. Company forced to back down due to community outcry. Company makes changes, and points at journalist for overblowing entire situation. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 24 2015 08:20 Ansibled wrote: I like Korea's take on sub leagues. It's a sub league where the main team can play and then occasionally they play actual challenger teams in a format that I don't think anyone has a hope of understanding. The best, really. Everybody's favourite Rioter commented on the situation. Korean subleague was kinda lomo. Let's be real, you're not expecting guys like Chaser or Fury playing in the subleague, it's just not supposed to happen. But surely it's way better than current landscape in the West. | ||
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EsanLOL
479 Posts
On December 24 2015 07:40 wei2coolman wrote: I don't see why lcs teams can't use cs players as subs? I can't see too many conflict of interest issues popping up. Eh, it's happened in the past but I can't really think of many instances where any team got really screwed over by it, but the potential is still there. Probably the best example would have been TSM pulling WildTurtle from C9, which could have really screwed C9 but they wound up getting an even better ADC. Another example would be Bigfatlp on Azure Cats, he had a pretty awful promotion series 0-3 versus CLG and then got promoted to CLG starting jungler like a week later. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Honestly riot pretending subs are something more than a waste atm is ridiculous. How is that a problem? Good players SHOULD be given good offers from the better teams. | ||
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Kakio
Norway15 Posts
The pro scene just isnt big enough for that yet. I mean sure there are millions of players but 99% of them suck and could never be even considered for pro play. The pool of people who could actually be placed as realistic subs isnt that big outside of the 100 players playing in the LCS and however many play in the CS. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Zero to World Elite | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
957 WuShuang xiye Mystic Zero Not relegations, hype! Yup, this team really isn't that bad at all! | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
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