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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 02 2015 11:14 GMT
#201
what counters olaf top? the moment i eat his Q i am a goner T_T
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
October 02 2015 12:33 GMT
#202
On October 02 2015 20:14 justiceknight wrote:
what counters olaf top? the moment i eat his Q i am a goner T_T

I am top laner, but I am kind of one of those one trick ponies and I play mostly rengar, with master yi, pantheon as substitutes.
To tell you the truth Olaf is hard but with Exhaust I beat him with Rengar and Yi, with ignite I beat him with Pantheon, from the 3 pantheon is the easiest, I think you can win there even with TP. The system with high damage tops is: dodge axe, go all in :-))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 02 2015 12:49 GMT
#203
Or even just dodge axe, run at him if he's maxed it and cast it at max range (so he can't just walk and pick it up).
He doesn't like mobile stuff, Riven is a bitch if you can time the shield (she's pretty much slow-immune and has better dps on her rotation), Vlad dumps all over him if he gets ahead or Olaf runs oom, I assume Darius' sustain can be an issue for him.
Gnar is 100% a bitch.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 02 2015 13:47 GMT
#204
Vlad with MS quints does shit on Olaf pretty hard. It's a skill matchup for Olaf, not for Vlad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
October 03 2015 02:30 GMT
#205
Trundle holds his own against Olaf pretty well. I wouldn't necessarily call it a counter, but if you do a camp early and come to lane with a lot of health pots it's really hard for him to just kill you 1v1, especially since you have pillar to get him off you if you need to. W also helps getting away from chain slows, since it speeds you up so much.

I usually go BotRK first in the matchup, and Olaf's usually go Black Cleaver- once you finish BotRK and start working on sunfire, you basically wait until they overestimate themselves, ult them, trap them with pillar, and then kill them. It's easy to kill an Olaf with jungle support too, since you can physically trap him with pillar to a degree.

More importantly, pillar lets you manipulate what he can do in teamfights (aka, you can save your teammates if the Olaf is trying to steam roll them). And if he goes too deep, your ult makes him super brittle so your team can just turn and kill him.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 03 2015 05:07 GMT
#206
For the champions I usually play, playing 10-20 times is more than sufficient for me to feel comfortable with. I am not sure if I can be good at Yasuo if I play him 200 times...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 03 2015 08:00 GMT
#207
Anyone else been having issues with their client needing repair recently? Never had this on my PC before but since about two weeks ago every couple days it crashes and needs to be repaired.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 03 2015 18:37 GMT
#208
@sufficiency
Ahq v fnc
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if ahq wins this game the right at 31 minutes was swung by 3/4 crits in a row but jinx with<50% crit. Without them Sivir lives and fnc win that fight and end the game
JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
October 03 2015 18:42 GMT
#209
On October 04 2015 03:37 Goumindong wrote:
@sufficiency
Ahq v fnc
+ Show Spoiler +
if ahq wins this game the right at 31 minutes was swung by 3/4 crits in a row but jinx with<50% crit. Without them Sivir lives and fnc win that fight and end the game


What is a tank crit?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 03 2015 19:59 GMT
#210
On October 04 2015 03:37 Goumindong wrote:
@sufficiency
Ahq v fnc
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if ahq wins this game the right at 31 minutes was swung by 3/4 crits in a row but jinx with<50% crit. Without them Sivir lives and fnc win that fight and end the game

I don't know how you'd look at that game,+ Show Spoiler +
and think fnatic had any business winning that game.
liftlift > tsm
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 03 2015 20:20 GMT
#211
Please don't start the crit discussion again.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#212
what is the consensus on steraks gage now that it's been out for a while?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 04 2015 23:58 GMT
#213
On October 05 2015 08:24 Frolossus wrote:
what is the consensus on steraks gage now that it's been out for a while?


I can't comment on its actual effectiveness because I find it somewhat hard to notice (you have to take a huge chunk of damage to get the bonus), but I just want to complain about how obfuscated the bonuses are: 25% bonus base damage? Scales with Sheen-like procs but not bonus AD? Rapidly decaying shield but not sure how fast it actually decays? Come on Riot.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 00:33:17
October 05 2015 00:22 GMT
#214
On October 05 2015 08:24 Frolossus wrote:
what is the consensus on steraks gage now that it's been out for a while?


Its kinda 50/50.

If you like Triforce its good. If you are Wukong, it is godlike; that item makes your ult hit nearly 1.5 time harder for free basically. Feels like Aghnim (sp?) scepter in DotA when you playing a hero that likes it like meepo... you get all the stats you want plus your ult just suddenly goes off hardcore.

At level 18, Wukong gets 0.5 extra base dmg* 114 base damage * 1.1 R Total AD ratio / s * 4 seconds = 260 extra damage on the ult. Pretty big stuff, actually; especially since your main gold sink is in the HP as Wukong you already want because of your passive. Steraks is probably the best 1 item purchase possible for Wukong.

Otherwise, meh / bad. Most champs get around 100-120 base AD, so item is barely gold efficient with the shield and the active. Not terrible, but not great either.

Just my opinion of course.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2015 01:43 GMT
#215
Only reason to get it is if you're a melee triforce user. If you're melee and you want more damage and and tankiness, why wouldn't you get deadman's plate instead?
liftlift > tsm
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 05 2015 01:50 GMT
#216
On October 05 2015 10:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Only reason to get it is if you're a melee triforce user. If you're melee and you want more damage and and tankiness, why wouldn't you get deadman's plate instead?

hecarim is the specific case that i'm looking at and he already builds deadman's and triforce. i'm considering it for a 5th or 6th item but haven't had a game go long enough to try it yet
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 05 2015 02:10 GMT
#217
On October 05 2015 09:22 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 08:24 Frolossus wrote:
what is the consensus on steraks gage now that it's been out for a while?


Its kinda 50/50.

If you like Triforce its good. If you are Wukong, it is godlike; that item makes your ult hit nearly 1.5 time harder for free basically. Feels like Aghnim (sp?) scepter in DotA when you playing a hero that likes it like meepo... you get all the stats you want plus your ult just suddenly goes off hardcore.

At level 18, Wukong gets 0.5 extra base dmg* 114 base damage * 1.1 R Total AD ratio / s * 4 seconds = 260 extra damage on the ult. Pretty big stuff, actually; especially since your main gold sink is in the HP as Wukong you already want because of your passive. Steraks is probably the best 1 item purchase possible for Wukong.

Otherwise, meh / bad. Most champs get around 100-120 base AD, so item is barely gold efficient with the shield and the active. Not terrible, but not great either.

Just my opinion of course.

Another thing to add with Wukong, since you do build a decent amount of damage and then throw yourself into fights, the HP and shield synergize really well with your passive in crowds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2015 02:30 GMT
#218
On October 05 2015 10:50 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 10:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Only reason to get it is if you're a melee triforce user. If you're melee and you want more damage and and tankiness, why wouldn't you get deadman's plate instead?

hecarim is the specific case that i'm looking at and he already builds deadman's and triforce. i'm considering it for a 5th or 6th item but haven't had a game go long enough to try it yet

Yeah, the only case I can see someone getting it is after triforce and deadman's
liftlift > tsm
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
October 05 2015 08:15 GMT
#219
I see people build it a lot on Darius, after Black Cleaver and DMP.
The 25% base AD increase isn't that big on most champs, it's usually something like 40 AD, plus a lot of abilities scale off of bonus AD instead of total, so it doesn't really help there either.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 10:54:26
October 05 2015 10:38 GMT
#220
amazed how rarely elise is banned right now, started playing her again just to test how strong she is and i get double digit kill score almost every game rylai is silly on her(nothing special tho this item is bonkers on every ap since the rework) havent seen bigger freelo for quite some time
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