EPTI need some rengar tips. What do I do in lategame when everyone's grouped? Just wait until someone else starts a fight, splitpush, try to go 1 for 1 with enemy carry?
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
I need some rengar tips. What do I do in lategame when everyone's grouped? Just wait until someone else starts a fight, splitpush, try to go 1 for 1 with enemy carry? | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On September 24 2015 22:50 TheYango wrote: Well then what happens is that you get a prisoner's dilemma situation where if one person queues for a role and not fill, they'll always get it with no adverse effect, but if everyone does it, queue times get fucked again. Well, the assigned role thing sounds like it's supposed to replace the need for some communication in champ select, not actually enforce people to play what they queued up for, so if one person queues up for ADC and the other 4 are fill, but one of them wants to play ADC instead and has pick order priority, then...? Think they'll enforce reporting people for playing things other than what they queue up as? | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On September 25 2015 03:37 TheHumanSensation wrote: Well, the assigned role thing sounds like it's supposed to replace the need for some communication in champ select, not actually enforce people to play what they queued up for, so if one person queues up for ADC and the other 4 are fill, but one of them wants to play ADC instead and has pick order priority, then...? Think they'll enforce reporting people for playing things other than what they queue up as? if 4 people pick fill and one person picks ADC the other 4 pick everything other than ADC. that's what they agreed to do by picking fill. if they don't like it they can dodge. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 25 2015 03:37 TheHumanSensation wrote: Well, the assigned role thing sounds like it's supposed to replace the need for some communication in champ select, not actually enforce people to play what they queued up for, so if one person queues up for ADC and the other 4 are fill, but one of them wants to play ADC instead and has pick order priority, then...? Think they'll enforce reporting people for playing things other than what they queue up as? Yes. Picking for a position other than what you were assigned without consent of your team is reportable in the new system. | ||
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kongoline
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On September 25 2015 06:39 kongoline wrote: two 50 minute games in row against soraka and i feel like i need chemotherapy I feel like soraka games are very binary. Teamfighting you either need insane levels of burst and sustained damage, or catch the soraka out (much harder against good players), otherwise you auto-lose the fight because you simply can't kill anybody. There was one game I lost where my team did over twice as much damage as the other team did combined, but we simply got attritioned down in fights by the fucking soraka. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On September 25 2015 00:13 AlterKot wrote: Isnt role distribution pretty average at all elos? Also for a pro its probably better to wait in queue and relax than waste time playing his non-main. And if you arent pro then pick least popular role and bask in glorious short queues. I need some rengar tips. What do I do in lategame when everyone's grouped? Just wait until someone else starts a fight, splitpush, try to go 1 for 1 with enemy carry? Hi, platinum rengar main here, with good kda. When they start to group it becomes pretty hard and there are many possible scenarios and things you could do that depends on the situation and they will come up with experience. For example sometimes you may go on to their front line if one of them separates a bit more from the team and you go to lock him down with empowered bolas and you only do this if your whole team will back you. So you dont go for the solo kill, you play utility/initiation. Another scenario is if there is another sniper in your team then initiate on their carry, again locking him down (not for kill), quick burst to take half of his life and run away as fast as you can while you hope for the other sniper to finish the job. Then you circle around the fight and wait for someone from the other team to get closer, coz you cannot afford walking in by any means. 3rd scenario are fights in the jungle or near baron where you have no vision, they know it and you know that they are ambushing you, then you start with early ulti to get vision, usually the ambushing teams are positioned bad, so you initiate on their carries, they often do not expect counter ambush and you usually die there but your team wins the fight. 4th and most recommended scenario is to be patient, start your ultimate when the fight started and wait wait wait, dont get impatient and you go in at the end of your ultimate, you can decide to go earlier, but if you are not sure 5-6 seconds of waiting is usually enough for the enemies to forget about you and focus in other stuff. Overall if you are not confident in the other scenarios always use scenario 4, obviously it won't work everytime, sometimes for 5 seconds the fight is over, but whatever, this is what your champ is good at. He is not good in everything p.s. Scenario 5, none of the above worked but the game is not lost yet, fuck their grouping, fuck your team and go split pushing if god loves you they will start spreading on the map and you\ll have your chance to pick carries or turrets  | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
I'm starting to see more and more Veigar's showing up in my games, and on the games of various League streamers. Is he legitimately good right now, or is this the "everyone forgot how to play against X champion so they're OP" syndrome again, like it was for Eve earlier in 2015? | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 25 2015 18:01 Osmoses wrote: His Q passive and his E got buffed. Yeah he's good. His W hitting more reliably is the biggest buff imo. That thing has a 1.0ap ratio, on a non-ult AoE. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 25 2015 17:57 Kinie wrote: So maybe someone here can answer this for me. I'm starting to see more and more Veigar's showing up in my games, and on the games of various League streamers. Is he legitimately good right now, or is this the "everyone forgot how to play against X champion so they're OP" syndrome again, like it was for Eve earlier in 2015? Yes, there was a discussion about it maybe 10+ pages back. I was basically claiming that Veigar is free elo right now (I think I am 16-4 or something like that in recent games) | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 25 2015 19:46 DarkCore wrote: Yeah, mid lane has kind of fallen into the same pattern that top lane has, namely that you can run TP and never be pushed out of lane. Throw in a flask start, maybe a catalyst or Tear to clear super safe, and you're all set to go. Assassins can still blow you up ofc, but if you're low, you can just recall and be back in lane. Not to mention that bc you're always in lane, your opponent is probably going to fall behind in cs/levels if they back at an unfavorable time, while you have way more flexibility. I don't really like flask starts when running TP. Just feels like you wasting that TP advantage because you going full sustain anyway. I guess it's alright if you never intend to TP back into lane and instead just going to TP to side lane as your first TP. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On September 25 2015 21:49 Numy wrote: I don't really like flask starts when running TP. Just feels like you wasting that TP advantage because you going full sustain anyway. I guess it's alright if you never intend to TP back into lane and instead just going to TP to side lane as your first TP. I usually do dring + 2 and hard push or something like with Diana, tp back with 2 drings early and just go from there. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Like for example bard sucks as a support vs rengar, impossible to save your adc in time since everything is a on a delay. However he is very good vs veigar since immobile mage that needs to get the jump sucks vs bard ult. The other way around is true for lulu, can squirrel rengar/ult adc instantly but you cant really be a reactionary support vs veigar. Another thing is veigar Destroys easily kitable/melee champs for the most part with his stun so that is probably contributing to his strength a lot too. if you have a kite/long range team then veigar struggles to really do anything. | ||
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