EPT[Patch 5.12] Runeglaive General Discussion - Page 7
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 25 2015 16:40 JazzVortical wrote: Is Runeglaive really going to be better than Triforce or Iceborne or Lichbane? I can't play at the moment, so I'm genuinely curios. Smite bonus is obviously good. Late game, I'd say the Iceborn-Muramana blue build stronger. That being said, that build has a real ridiculous build up to it where you need to hope you just dont lose. You need a ton of gold and charging up time before you "come online" Bad for solo queue at least in my experience. The pushing power it gives Ezreal is pretty insane midlane. I've played it a few times, and while I dont think my opponent was particularly good, it feels real strong. Laning vs Ezreal when you have no creeps is silly hard. lol. You basically farm, and then at 9 minutes buy your Runeglaive Skirmisher and proceed to just bully your lane opponent. You just Q the creeps and then you lane opponent is just stuck out in the open with no creeps, either has to back or get poked down. And then once your land a couple Q's you can all in real hard. Is it OP? Maybe not, feels good though. Your power spike is a LOT earlier than people expect. I dont even think you need to buy/stack a tear, as long as you are getting blue. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On June 25 2015 17:24 iCanada wrote: Late game, I'd say the Iceborn-Muramana blue build stronger. That being said, that build has a real ridiculous build up to it where you need to hope you just dont lose. You need a ton of gold and charging up time before you "come online" Bad for solo queue at least in my experience. The pushing power it gives Ezreal is pretty insane midlane. I've played it a few times, and while I dont think my opponent was particularly good, it feels real strong. Laning vs Ezreal when you have no creeps is silly hard. lol. You basically farm, and then at 9 minutes buy your Runeglaive Skirmisher and proceed to just bully your lane opponent. You just Q the creeps and then you lane opponent is just stuck out in the open with no creeps, either has to back or get poked down. And then once your land a couple Q's you can all in real hard. Is it OP? Maybe not, feels good though. Your power spike is a LOT earlier than people expect. I dont even think you need to buy/stack a tear, as long as you are getting blue. Yeah, I think the biggest thing I'm noticing is that while Runeglaive isn't as powerful as some other items like Lich Bane or Triforce, the power spike hits soooooooo much earlier, similar to how warrior's flat stats give fighter junglers a huge power spike early in the game that slowly diminishes. I think we'll be seeing this on a lot of more active AP fighter/assassins come out of Runeglaive, but because it doesn't scale quite as hard as Cinderhulk, it still assumes a bit of a risk -- hoping that you'll get really far ahead in the mid game. As far as AP Ez, I haven't seen it yet, but everything I've heard about it is wicked. Might be that the Runeglaive is a place a little too powerful at the moment ^^. | ||
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IMoperator
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 25 2015 18:03 SC2John wrote: Yeah, I think the biggest thing I'm noticing is that while Runeglaive isn't as powerful as some other items like Lich Bane or Triforce, the power spike hits soooooooo much earlier, similar to how warrior's flat stats give fighter junglers a huge power spike early in the game that slowly diminishes. I think we'll be seeing this on a lot of more active AP fighter/assassins come out of Runeglaive, but because it doesn't scale quite as hard as Cinderhulk, it still assumes a bit of a risk -- hoping that you'll get really far ahead in the mid game. As far as AP Ez, I haven't seen it yet, but everything I've heard about it is wicked. Might be that the Runeglaive is a place a little too powerful at the moment ^^. While Runeglaive doesn't scale as well as Lich Bane (0.3 ratio versus 0.5), according to the wiki it converts your auto-attack to pure magic damage and applies spell effects (e.g. Rylai's, Luden's Echo, Spell Vamp). The former is very significant since champion Armor is naturally higher than MR (plus you'll probably have some MPen), and so you'll gain some damage through the conversion. That and being 750g ahead on your item build is huge, since assassins really rely on item timings to be potent both early and late. I'm surprised no one has brought up the possibility of lane Smite Akali at this point. With her natural Spell Vamp she can make decent use of Smite even before she upgrades it, and she naturally makes extremely good use of the procs. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 25 2015 22:12 Seuss wrote: While Runeglaive doesn't scale as well as Lich Bane (0.3 ratio versus 0.5), according to the wiki it converts your auto-attack to pure magic damage and applies spell effects (e.g. Rylai's, Luden's Echo, Spell Vamp). The former is very significant since champion Armor is naturally higher than MR (plus you'll probably have some MPen), and so you'll gain some damage through the conversion. That and being 750g ahead on your item build is huge, since assassins really rely on item timings to be potent both early and late. I'm surprised no one has brought up the possibility of lane Smite Akali at this point. With her natural Spell Vamp she can make decent use of Smite even before she upgrades it, and she naturally makes extremely good use of the procs. Not to mention that the AOE of the Runeglaive helps champs with wave clear. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 25 2015 22:22 St3MoR wrote: your full auto transformed to magic dmg? that could be a problem... Yup, it all gets wrapped up into this nice, big, purple number. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
On June 25 2015 11:38 Nos- wrote: People who know the LPL players better than I, who's the guy on VG with the ridiculously high pitched voice? I think it's World6 but I could be wrong. If you link me a vod/team comm I can probably tell you or find out. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 25 2015 20:34 IMoperator wrote: i thought that this new automated system was fast. ive been trying to get banned and still nothing happens. User was temp banned for this post. You did it, you got banned! | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On June 25 2015 20:34 IMoperator wrote: i thought that this new automated system was fast. ive been trying to get banned and still nothing happens. User was temp banned for this post. The non-automated system is faster apparently. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:32 Fildun wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2015 20:34 IMoperator wrote: i thought that this new automated system was fast. ive been trying to get banned and still nothing happens. User was temp banned for this post. The non-automated system is faster apparently. Not sure why he got banned. Personally I think it's perfectly fine to have people actually test the system to see if it functions as Riot claims rather than blindly accept everything they say. On the other hand, anyone know if this patch will be the one played at Worlds or there may be more happening? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:56 Kavas wrote: Not sure why he got banned. Personally I think it's perfectly fine to have people actually test the system to see if it functions as Riot claims rather than blindly accept everything they say. On the other hand, anyone know if this patch will be the one played at Worlds or there may be more happening? Yes, competitive will be using this patch for 4 months. | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
I haven't played for 10 month. To celebrate my comeback tonight (no joke), my former playgroup is going to troll and play a 5v5 game with me on their highest ranked team. Since I'm overwhelmed by all the new graphics, changes and new stuff, I got two more or less general questions that I hope you will answer me like you did in the past. 1. Current Meta What is it like? Do we have some special sort of meta like we had in the past (e. g., I remember Bruiser, Black Cleaver, mobility, Assassin, carry jungler meta etc.)? What should I expect? Is the game still so fast paced (first towers falling at 3-4 minutes)? I don't expect a big answer since this is too much of a general question, would be nice if you can give me a fast breakdown in 4-5 sentences maybe. 2. AD carry role I've been a dedicated AD carry player. a) Are my go-to champs Graves/Corki/MF still some sort of viable? b) Is my basic AD red, armor yellow, MR blue and AD/AS quints still some sort of useful or have I missed out on some brand new tech? c) There's a lot of new items I can imagine to be good for ADs. But I guess I can't go wrong with the old cookie-cutter-build consisting of IE, BT, PD/TF, LW, Zerkers + defensive item? 3. A big "Thank you!" to you. It's nice to see some old names being still around. I will definitely check back to these forums once I got more comfortable with the game gain. Greetings fancy | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
Well, actually a lot of weird champions have come up, like Urgot mid, Hecarim/Fizz top (both of which will make your life hell as ADC) and there's some more stuff like that. For ADC, Corki and Graves are still good to go, MF not so much. Current highest rated ADC's would be Sivir and Kalista. The rune page looks fine, same for the build. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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NormStorm
Canada2 Posts
- 50% heal on-hit in spider form. Add on Spirit Visage and you've got 60%, that plus the damage amplification on her Rappel. Could take a while before we see people getting used to her again but man, it was as if I was watching release Elise again. | ||
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Fildun
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