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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 22 2015 14:07 GMT
#541
On June 22 2015 22:55 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 22:28 gobbledydook wrote:
Why would you play Shen botlane? What can he do botlane that say Leona can't do better? I can see why Shen toplane can be good but botlane just seems outclassed.


Based on what iCanada said I think the point is to snowball the other lanes instead of bottom.

why not pick soraka she does the same thing but is strong in lane
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 22 2015 15:00 GMT
#542
On June 22 2015 23:07 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 22:55 Seuss wrote:
On June 22 2015 22:28 gobbledydook wrote:
Why would you play Shen botlane? What can he do botlane that say Leona can't do better? I can see why Shen toplane can be good but botlane just seems outclassed.


Based on what iCanada said I think the point is to snowball the other lanes instead of bottom.

why not pick soraka she does the same thing but is strong in lane


There's a big difference between a one-off global heal and teleporting to a lane to shield, bring CC, and deal damage.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 15:27:23
June 22 2015 15:24 GMT
#543
On June 23 2015 00:00 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 23:07 nafta wrote:
On June 22 2015 22:55 Seuss wrote:
On June 22 2015 22:28 gobbledydook wrote:
Why would you play Shen botlane? What can he do botlane that say Leona can't do better? I can see why Shen toplane can be good but botlane just seems outclassed.


Based on what iCanada said I think the point is to snowball the other lanes instead of bottom.

why not pick soraka she does the same thing but is strong in lane


There's a big difference between a one-off global heal and teleporting to a lane to shield, bring CC, and deal damage.

chances are the enemy bot lane will just all in your ad or cancel it if you are in lane also is stronger in ganks/counterganks
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 22 2015 15:46 GMT
#544
On June 23 2015 00:24 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 00:00 Seuss wrote:
On June 22 2015 23:07 nafta wrote:
On June 22 2015 22:55 Seuss wrote:
On June 22 2015 22:28 gobbledydook wrote:
Why would you play Shen botlane? What can he do botlane that say Leona can't do better? I can see why Shen toplane can be good but botlane just seems outclassed.


Based on what iCanada said I think the point is to snowball the other lanes instead of bottom.

why not pick soraka she does the same thing but is strong in lane


There's a big difference between a one-off global heal and teleporting to a lane to shield, bring CC, and deal damage.

chances are the enemy bot lane will just all in your ad or cancel it if you are in lane also is stronger in ganks/counterganks


Hence, everything that ticklishmusic said.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 15:50:46
June 22 2015 15:47 GMT
#545
his sustain isn't really that great for himself, he can't sustain from range if he isn't cs'ing, unless you count timing his shield correctly sustain then I guess sorta.

certainly it seems not bad, if nothing else because face of the mountain is like, perfect for him.
Carrilord has arrived.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
June 22 2015 16:41 GMT
#546
is there a TL chat on lol?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 22 2015 16:41 GMT
#547
His sustain isn't bad, you just Q the siege minions and use Targon's execute. The combo gives you and your AD like 100 hp for no cost.
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Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
June 22 2015 16:54 GMT
#548
On June 23 2015 01:41 coolTLname wrote:
is there a TL chat on lol?

Yes, but it's dead. So no
I am who you think I am
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 22 2015 17:58 GMT
#549
I keep getting elo boosting ads in liquid league. Uhhhhh.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 22 2015 20:07 GMT
#550
On June 23 2015 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
His sustain isn't bad, you just Q the siege minions and use Targon's execute. The combo gives you and your AD like 100 hp for no cost.


I have been wrecked by Shen support before. He is actually pretty strong as far as i can tell.

His Q is good lane harass and while its kind of poor sustain, its consistent and augmented by his shield. Because Q is targeted and does not cost mana he can use it on cooldown against enemy champions. The harass pattern is very similar to early Janna shield harass, except that instead of auto attacking you're pressing Q. This is especially potent against melee's who don't have shields, or champions dependent on long CD/skillshots. Which is basically the entire support roster atm besides Nautilus. But Shen should out-sustain nautilus(not sure who wins if naut all-ins the shen who Q's him but i suspect its a bad matchup for Shen

After laning phase is over his ultimate means that he is always in a position to support his ADC. This lets your AD or Top Lane split, giving your team the option of forcing a 2v1 or a 5v4 depending on the port priority.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
June 22 2015 20:17 GMT
#551
On June 22 2015 22:56 ticklishmusic wrote:
Shen has pretty good sustain for him + his carry, his CC is on one spell, pretty decent burst. Also, he's manaless. If you get ahead, you've got your ult to snowball other lanes. He's super annoying with face of the mountain. Synergizes insanely well with AD's who have good wave control abilities.

And there's the old "gee I've never seen this guy as support so lemme play like I'm in Bronze" effect.


Can't speak for higher elos but Shen support is awesome in bronze xD I'm assuming it's because people don't know how to play against him and get caught off guard by your burst/sustain. Pretty much every time I have a competent adc its easy to get a kill or two up on them pre 6. FotM + sunfire + spirit visage are all pretty much perfect for his passive and/or Q and you just become more annoying/tanky as the game goes on.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
June 22 2015 20:23 GMT
#552
What the fuck is wrong with people drophacking, is it that easy to do ?! Is it so cheap to buy ? I don't know about you guys but it seems to have become so common on EUW around mid diamond.

You get the ace+baron and then COINCIDENCE everyone disconnects, can't reconnect, game disappears from history and no lp gain/loss. I mean the guys don't even try to act cute or something they just flat out disconnect you after the big obvious ace before the victorious push.... I wouldn't even care about the LP but you lose so much time since you can't reconnect or start a new game... damn... sorry for the rant
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 22 2015 20:25 GMT
#553
On June 23 2015 05:23 RouaF wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with people drophacking, is it that easy to do ?! Is it so cheap to buy ? I don't know about you guys but it seems to have become so common on EUW around mid diamond.

You get the ace+baron and then COINCIDENCE everyone disconnects, can't reconnect, game disappears from history and no lp gain/loss. I mean the guys don't even try to act cute or something they just flat out disconnect you after the big obvious ace before the victorious push.... I wouldn't even care about the LP but you lose so much time since you can't reconnect or start a new game... damn... sorry for the rant

yup every 3/4 games on average
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 22 2015 20:35 GMT
#554
That's pretty ridiculous. If I still played seriously I'd easily quit over that (it's literally why I quit War3 back in the day, the first disconnect hack came out).

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 22 2015 20:36 GMT
#555
It doesn't happen to me, but I am only plat 4 (maybe low plat 3 MMR, maybe). So not sure what to say
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 22 2015 20:40 GMT
#556
Is the game totally disappearing an artifact of their client basically being two separate entities?
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 20:47:52
June 22 2015 20:47 GMT
#557
On June 23 2015 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
Is the game totally disappearing an artifact of their client basically being two separate entities?

Nope, that's a ddos kicking everybody from the game. Since nobody is playing the server drops the game. Same way if you make a custom game by yourself and then leave it the game poofs.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 22 2015 20:56 GMT
#558
I've had people drophack normals on EUNE. So yeeeeah. I guess there's a public drophack out there. -.-
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 22 2015 21:01 GMT
#559
since the new match history got introduced i often have delay before my last match shows(1-30min), anyone else having that problem ?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 22 2015 21:20 GMT
#560
On June 23 2015 05:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
Is the game totally disappearing an artifact of their client basically being two separate entities?

Nope, that's a ddos kicking everybody from the game. Since nobody is playing the server drops the game. Same way if you make a custom game by yourself and then leave it the game poofs.

How does the game get recorded normally?

Does it only register a game when the postgame lobby opens?
Freeeeeeedom
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