his sustain isn't really that great for himself, he can't sustain from range if he isn't cs'ing, unless you count timing his shield correctly sustain then I guess sorta.

certainly it seems not bad, if nothing else because face of the mountain is like, perfect for him.

coolTLname

United States315 Posts

June 22 2015 16:41 GMT

#546

is there a TL chat on lol?

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

June 22 2015 16:41 GMT

#547

His sustain isn't bad, you just Q the siege minions and use Targon's execute. The combo gives you and your AD like 100 hp for no cost.

Lost My Will To Live

Botswana601 Posts

June 22 2015 16:54 GMT

#548

On June 23 2015 01:41 coolTLname wrote:
is there a TL chat on lol?

Yes, but it's dead. So no

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

June 22 2015 17:58 GMT

#549

I keep getting elo boosting ads in liquid league. Uhhhhh.

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

June 22 2015 20:07 GMT

#550

On June 23 2015 01:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
His sustain isn't bad, you just Q the siege minions and use Targon's execute. The combo gives you and your AD like 100 hp for no cost.

I have been wrecked by Shen support before. He is actually pretty strong as far as i can tell.

His Q is good lane harass and while its kind of poor sustain, its consistent and augmented by his shield. Because Q is targeted and does not cost mana he can use it on cooldown against enemy champions. The harass pattern is very similar to early Janna shield harass, except that instead of auto attacking you're pressing Q. This is especially potent against melee's who don't have shields, or champions dependent on long CD/skillshots. Which is basically the entire support roster atm besides Nautilus. But Shen should out-sustain nautilus(not sure who wins if naut all-ins the shen who Q's him but i suspect its a bad matchup for Shen

After laning phase is over his ultimate means that he is always in a position to support his ADC. This lets your AD or Top Lane split, giving your team the option of forcing a 2v1 or a 5v4 depending on the port priority.

decafchicken

United States20019 Posts

June 22 2015 20:17 GMT

#551

On June 22 2015 22:56 ticklishmusic wrote:
Shen has pretty good sustain for him + his carry, his CC is on one spell, pretty decent burst. Also, he's manaless. If you get ahead, you've got your ult to snowball other lanes. He's super annoying with face of the mountain. Synergizes insanely well with AD's who have good wave control abilities.

And there's the old "gee I've never seen this guy as support so lemme play like I'm in Bronze" effect.

Can't speak for higher elos but Shen support is awesome in bronze xD I'm assuming it's because people don't know how to play against him and get caught off guard by your burst/sustain. Pretty much every time I have a competent adc its easy to get a kill or two up on them pre 6. FotM + sunfire + spirit visage are all pretty much perfect for his passive and/or Q and you just become more annoying/tanky as the game goes on.

RouaF

France4120 Posts

June 22 2015 20:23 GMT

#552

What the fuck is wrong with people drophacking, is it that easy to do ?! Is it so cheap to buy ? I don't know about you guys but it seems to have become so common on EUW around mid diamond.

You get the ace+baron and then COINCIDENCE everyone disconnects, can't reconnect, game disappears from history and no lp gain/loss. I mean the guys don't even try to act cute or something they just flat out disconnect you after the big obvious ace before the victorious push.... I wouldn't even care about the LP but you lose so much time since you can't reconnect or start a new game... damn... sorry for the rant

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

June 22 2015 20:25 GMT

#553

On June 23 2015 05:23 RouaF wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with people drophacking, is it that easy to do ?! Is it so cheap to buy ? I don't know about you guys but it seems to have become so common on EUW around mid diamond.

You get the ace+baron and then COINCIDENCE everyone disconnects, can't reconnect, game disappears from history and no lp gain/loss. I mean the guys don't even try to act cute or something they just flat out disconnect you after the big obvious ace before the victorious push.... I wouldn't even care about the LP but you lose so much time since you can't reconnect or start a new game... damn... sorry for the rant

yup every 3/4 games on average

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

June 22 2015 20:35 GMT

#554

That's pretty ridiculous. If I still played seriously I'd easily quit over that (it's literally why I quit War3 back in the day, the first disconnect hack came out).

Goumindong

United States3529 Posts

June 22 2015 20:36 GMT

#555

It doesn't happen to me, but I am only plat 4 (maybe low plat 3 MMR, maybe). So not sure what to say

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 22 2015 20:40 GMT

#556

Is the game totally disappearing an artifact of their client basically being two separate entities?

Gahlo

United States35142 Posts

June 22 2015 20:47 GMT

#557

On June 23 2015 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
Is the game totally disappearing an artifact of their client basically being two separate entities?

Nope, that's a ddos kicking everybody from the game. Since nobody is playing the server drops the game. Same way if you make a custom game by yourself and then leave it the game poofs.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

June 22 2015 20:56 GMT

#558

I've had people drophack normals on EUNE. So yeeeeah. I guess there's a public drophack out there. -.-

kongoline

6318 Posts

June 22 2015 21:01 GMT

#559

since the new match history got introduced i often have delay before my last match shows(1-30min), anyone else having that problem ?

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 22 2015 21:20 GMT

#560

On June 23 2015 05:47 Gahlo wrote:

Show nested quote +

Nope, that's a ddos kicking everybody from the game. Since nobody is playing the server drops the game. Same way if you make a custom game by yourself and then leave it the game poofs.

How does the game get recorded normally?

Does it only register a game when the postgame lobby opens?