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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 20 2015 13:12 GMT
#621
Black Cleaver Gnar looks pretty abusive.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 20 2015 13:16 GMT
#622
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 20 2015 13:23 GMT
#623
Need to get Zeke's herald too. Zeke's BC Mallet, holy trinity of weird as fuck items.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 20 2015 13:25 GMT
#624
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 20 2015 13:35 GMT
#625
On May 20 2015 22:25 Gahlo wrote:
https://twitter.com/Bjergsen/status/600802733361274882

inb4 lane swap xD
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 20 2015 14:06 GMT
#626
On May 20 2015 13:16 krndandaman wrote:
When playing in KR if you don't give blue to even a fucking katarina or yasuo they will insta ragequit. Not even joking lol


Which is how the game should be played, and goes t omy point of why CN/KR > EU/NA.
TranslatorBaa!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:11:55
May 20 2015 14:10 GMT
#627
Let's be real, Koreans aren't gonna give blue to Yasuo.

He only has 2 skills that even benefit from CDR.


Actually thinking back on watching cowseps stream a bunch, I 100% retract this statement lol.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:16:16
May 20 2015 14:15 GMT
#628
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:16:34
May 20 2015 14:15 GMT
#629
On May 20 2015 23:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 13:16 krndandaman wrote:
When playing in KR if you don't give blue to even a fucking katarina or yasuo they will insta ragequit. Not even joking lol


Which is how the game should be played, and goes t omy point of why CN/KR > EU/NA.

its not set in stone or correct (lol taking blue as yasuo from mana dependent jungler) and please stop sucking korea/cn dicks when they already showed how overrated they are in last iem/msi and get 3-2 scores vs terrible eu/na teams who dont train half as much and have no infrastructure
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:21:06
May 20 2015 14:19 GMT
#630
Yeah cheep, I think you're going to get an awful lot of push back if you're saying NA/EU junglers in solo queue games should be giving blue buffs to Yasuo mids because Korean players will afk if they don't get buffs.

Also cowsep is awesome and I love him.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:24:59
May 20 2015 14:21 GMT
#631
He split pushes 1v5 all game and usually feeds (only the 1 in 10 BIG PRAYS make it on Reddit FP ofc), takes buffs, and had to change his name cause people were tired of playing with him and kept dodging/flaming him lol. He's basically like Trick2G playing in a tryhard region.

On May 20 2015 23:19 Ketara wrote:
Yeah cheep, I think you're going to get an awful lot of push back if you're saying NA/EU junglers in solo queue games should be giving blue buffs to Yasuo mids because Korean players will afk if they don't get buffs.


It's just one symptom of the underlying reasons why NA/EU is significantly behind CN/KR. The attitude towards the game is just completely different. Everyone wants to be ~the carry~ and make big plays that get to the FP of Reddit, but no one stops to think that maybe if they played the game efficiently (ie by giving blue to mid) it'd probably raise their winrate and improve the overall attitude and skill of the region.

Of course there are times when jungle should take blue, but let's be real, 90% of the cases when junglers take blue they try to justify it as "I can do more with it" when it's completely bullshit. Every other week there's a page on FP of Reddit circlejerking about how jungle is underappreciated and jungle deserves every buff and shouldn't ever be blamed, it's just absurd.
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2015 14:25 GMT
#632
On May 20 2015 23:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.

And how is that not a terrible attitude?
Next thing you know they'd even give blue to Garen or Rengar if some oddball happened to pick them mid?

Critical thinking's a thing too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 20 2015 14:27 GMT
#633
korea/cn always play in pcbangs so you cant ban accounts or something?
basically all it means is the people with childish attitudes control everything because they can afk whenever
aka Teutonica
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:29:22
May 20 2015 14:28 GMT
#634
On May 20 2015 23:25 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 23:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.

And how is that not a terrible attitude?
Next thing you know they'd even give blue to Garen or Rengar if some oddball happened to pick them mid?

Critical thinking's a thing too.


Yea but you wouldn't get Garen/Rengar mid in KR solo queue so the point of moot. Also note how I said nearly 100% instead of 100%. Realistically mid should get blue in around 9 out of 10 games, instead of the 1/3 or 1/2 or whatever it is right now.

On May 20 2015 23:27 Slayer91 wrote:
korea/cn always play in pcbangs so you cant ban accounts or something?
basically all it means is the people with childish attitudes control everything because they can afk whenever


You still have your own accounts, IDK how bans work but I don't think that would be the reason?
TranslatorBaa!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 20 2015 14:30 GMT
#635
On May 20 2015 23:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 23:25 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.

And how is that not a terrible attitude?
Next thing you know they'd even give blue to Garen or Rengar if some oddball happened to pick them mid?

Critical thinking's a thing too.


Yea but you wouldn't get Garen/Rengar mid in KR solo queue so the point of moot. Also note how I said nearly 100% instead of 100%. Realistically mid should get blue in around 9 out of 10 games, instead of the 1/3 or 1/2 or whatever it is right now.


What is this based on?I have never seen a jungler take 2nd blue unless the mid is katarina or has died more than 2 times or they just played earlier and either one is being a lil bitch.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 20 2015 14:33 GMT
#636
Cheep is just pulling facts out of his ass and circlejerking about how far KR/CN is ahead, so I don't think he's being serious here.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 20 2015 14:35 GMT
#637
On May 20 2015 23:30 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 23:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:25 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.

And how is that not a terrible attitude?
Next thing you know they'd even give blue to Garen or Rengar if some oddball happened to pick them mid?

Critical thinking's a thing too.


Yea but you wouldn't get Garen/Rengar mid in KR solo queue so the point of moot. Also note how I said nearly 100% instead of 100%. Realistically mid should get blue in around 9 out of 10 games, instead of the 1/3 or 1/2 or whatever it is right now.


What is this based on?I have never seen a jungler take 2nd blue unless the mid is katarina or has died more than 2 times or they just played earlier and either one is being a lil bitch.


Of course I don't have any hard numbers about when jungle takes 2nd blue (pretty sure you can't measure that), but the general attitude in NA at least is that jungler decides who gets blue, whereas the general attitudes in KR/CN is mid decides who gets blue. I mean just look at the poll from earlier -

On May 20 2015 05:43 lightandshadow wrote:
Let's have a new poll!

Same situation, but blue instead of red. You're mid, someone who takes some time to do blue (like Ahri or Lux or something), you're about to get it and then jungle walks by and takes it.

Poll: Is jungle entitled to blue?

no (17)
 
57%

yes (13)
 
43%

30 total votes

Your vote: Is jungle entitled to blue?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no




No firsthand experience on EUW/EUNE/whatever so wouldn't know there.
TranslatorBaa!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 20 2015 14:37 GMT
#638
On May 20 2015 23:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 23:30 nafta wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:25 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2015 23:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Cowsep has a horrible attitude towards the game and gets rightfully flamed every game by teammates TBH.

Mid gets blue nearly 100% in CN/KR solo queue, doesn't matter what champ you're playing.

And how is that not a terrible attitude?
Next thing you know they'd even give blue to Garen or Rengar if some oddball happened to pick them mid?

Critical thinking's a thing too.


Yea but you wouldn't get Garen/Rengar mid in KR solo queue so the point of moot. Also note how I said nearly 100% instead of 100%. Realistically mid should get blue in around 9 out of 10 games, instead of the 1/3 or 1/2 or whatever it is right now.


What is this based on?I have never seen a jungler take 2nd blue unless the mid is katarina or has died more than 2 times or they just played earlier and either one is being a lil bitch.


Of course I don't have any hard numbers about when jungle takes 2nd blue (pretty sure you can't measure that), but the general attitude in NA at least is that jungler decides who gets blue, whereas the general attitudes in KR/CN is mid decides who gets blue. I mean just look at the poll from earlier -

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 05:43 lightandshadow wrote:
Let's have a new poll!

Same situation, but blue instead of red. You're mid, someone who takes some time to do blue (like Ahri or Lux or something), you're about to get it and then jungle walks by and takes it.

Poll: Is jungle entitled to blue?

no (17)
 
57%

yes (13)
 
43%

30 total votes

Your vote: Is jungle entitled to blue?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no




No firsthand experience on EUW/EUNE/whatever so wouldn't know there.


It's completely dependant on how lane is going for NA junglers to decide, maybe that's different in KR but they also have an absurd amount of rq/flame/afk compared to the other regions so I'm sure if KR junglers really felt they had the chance they would take second blue. I personally hand off second blue a little over half my games, generally don't if they are a mana less mid laner on #2 but always hand off 3rd blue unless they just sit in lane with me pinging a billion times, if they take too long to move over or don't move over at all it's their loss

Third blue should pretty much always be handed over to mid unlesss they're like 0-11 or something
In Inca we trust
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 14:41:57
May 20 2015 14:39 GMT
#639
soloqueue under diamond is a crapshot in both regions tho,
On May 20 2015 23:33 Fildun wrote:
Cheep is just pulling facts out of his ass and circlejerking about how far KR/CN is ahead, so I don't think he's being serious here.

how do you circlejerk when you're alone?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 20 2015 14:42 GMT
#640
On May 20 2015 23:39 SagaZ wrote:
soloqueue is a crapshot in both regions

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