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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 25 2015 20:04 GMT
#121
Forgive my ignorance, but what's "stupid" about Top Hecarim? I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, I honestly don't know what the deal is about Top Hecarim.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 25 2015 20:05 GMT
#122
On February 26 2015 05:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Is he as stupid or more stupid than Top Hecarim?


Top Hecarim at least can stick to your target, lol.
Top Sion is just brick wall which can't do anything late game outside of hitting walls.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 25 2015 20:07 GMT
#123
On February 26 2015 05:04 Frudgey wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what's "stupid" about Top Hecarim? I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, I honestly don't know what the deal is about Top Hecarim.

A lot of people are playing top hecarim with ignite/tp and reking kids.

Pretty much all champs with sustain can handle sion easily.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 20:12:44
February 25 2015 20:12 GMT
#124
played 2 games with veigar in them, One in my team, the other as an enemy. Guy is utter garbage now for what i was able to assess. The biggest issue being E so easy to dodge, you can basically not leveling this skill at all and you''ll have the same impact (not really, but you understand what I mean)
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 25 2015 20:27 GMT
#125
well then you might as well go stats over W as well, oh wai.......
Carrilord has arrived.
Ritha
Profile Joined October 2009
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 20:30:05
February 25 2015 20:29 GMT
#126
On February 25 2015 22:21 nafta wrote:
How are adc build paths diverse wtf?Don't get me wrong I don't think it is possible to be diverse unless they add 5/6 new items but still.Also especially the ad role is just so fucking unstable because of crits and it doesn't look like they intend to change that any time soon.The pick diversity is a myth too.Yeah you can play a lot of champs but it doesn't make it good.In solo you can do w/e.


Now, I don't post very often, but this is just wrong. ADC build paths are very diverse if you look at the role itself. Corki goes Trinity/Sorc boots/BT as his core. Kog goes Trinity/BotRK (Or PD, it seems to be shifting some?). Ezreal goes Muramana/Trinity. Vayne goes BotRK/PD. Ghostblade gets play on Lucian, and sometimes others as well. Same goes for Shiv. Sure, lots of ADCs go IE/PD/BT/LW, but there are actually a lot of ADCs that build a lot of different items that give them power spikes at different times.

And all of them have been played professionally this season, so "pick diversity" isn't a myth. They might not get play as often as Graves, but clearly they are viable in the proper team composition at a professional level. Just because there is a 'standard' play doesn't mean that trying to spike power at different point in the game or in different situations isn't a thing. It also doesn't mean that different team compositions with different goals aren't a thing.

-Edit- Hah, my first post since I registered 7 years ago! Totally didn't realize.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 25 2015 20:40 GMT
#127
On February 26 2015 05:29 Ritha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 22:21 nafta wrote:
How are adc build paths diverse wtf?Don't get me wrong I don't think it is possible to be diverse unless they add 5/6 new items but still.Also especially the ad role is just so fucking unstable because of crits and it doesn't look like they intend to change that any time soon.The pick diversity is a myth too.Yeah you can play a lot of champs but it doesn't make it good.In solo you can do w/e.


Now, I don't post very often, but this is just wrong. ADC build paths are very diverse if you look at the role itself. Corki goes Trinity/Sorc boots/BT as his core. Kog goes Trinity/BotRK (Or PD, it seems to be shifting some?). Ezreal goes Muramana/Trinity. Vayne goes BotRK/PD. Ghostblade gets play on Lucian, and sometimes others as well. Same goes for Shiv. Sure, lots of ADCs go IE/PD/BT/LW, but there are actually a lot of ADCs that build a lot of different items that give them power spikes at different times.

And all of them have been played professionally this season, so "pick diversity" isn't a myth. They might not get play as often as Graves, but clearly they are viable in the proper team composition at a professional level. Just because there is a 'standard' play doesn't mean that trying to spike power at different point in the game or in different situations isn't a thing. It also doesn't mean that different team compositions with different goals aren't a thing.

-Edit- Hah, my first post since I registered 7 years ago! Totally didn't realize.

Haha, good one :D
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 25 2015 20:41 GMT
#128
what is the deal with the recruitment awards? they announced that like in October, and I should have both skins did they change their mind?
Carrilord has arrived.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#129
On February 25 2015 17:00 Zhiroo wrote:
When did they change Tristana's icon with a picture of Sneaky?

About the time they changed Kat's with one of Nigel Thornberry.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 25 2015 20:49 GMT
#130
On February 26 2015 05:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 05:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Is he as stupid or more stupid than Top Hecarim?


Top Hecarim at least can stick to your target, lol.
Top Sion is just brick wall which can't do anything late game outside of hitting walls.


Sion you don't stick to a target, you just stand in front of your adc and stun/slow/reduce armor/%health damage anyone who tries to get to them. If you Q on top of your ADC whoever is focusing them either run or gets knocked up for 2.25 seconds every 5 seconds. You're a utility tank.

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 25 2015 21:07 GMT
#131
On February 26 2015 05:04 Frudgey wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what's "stupid" about Top Hecarim? I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, I honestly don't know what the deal is about Top Hecarim.

It's just a pick that's getting popularized by Keane imo. TP/Ignite and you still manage to be a bully in most matchups. Early game you tend to just shove lane and apply easy harass by running into range and poke. Late game, you split push for days and just run away with farm. Keane can easily do 10 minions/min or better, which is almost unheard of for a Top Lane.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 25 2015 21:08 GMT
#132
On February 26 2015 05:41 Slusher wrote:
what is the deal with the recruitment awards? they announced that like in October, and I should have both skins did they change their mind?

You have to actually go redeem that stuff from the website.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 21:08:46
February 25 2015 21:08 GMT
#133
Top Hecarim has been getting played in CN/KR challenger for months, and there are a bunch of people who pretty much main it. Keane just copied it and brought it to the ignorant white devils
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 25 2015 21:10 GMT
#134
Doesn't he straight-up rushes homeguard tabis or something and keeps killing the wave -> recalling too so he's always topped off and his opponent can't roam?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 25 2015 21:11 GMT
#135
On February 26 2015 05:29 Ritha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 22:21 nafta wrote:
How are adc build paths diverse wtf?Don't get me wrong I don't think it is possible to be diverse unless they add 5/6 new items but still.Also especially the ad role is just so fucking unstable because of crits and it doesn't look like they intend to change that any time soon.The pick diversity is a myth too.Yeah you can play a lot of champs but it doesn't make it good.In solo you can do w/e.


Now, I don't post very often, but this is just wrong. ADC build paths are very diverse if you look at the role itself. Corki goes Trinity/Sorc boots/BT as his core. Kog goes Trinity/BotRK (Or PD, it seems to be shifting some?). Ezreal goes Muramana/Trinity. Vayne goes BotRK/PD. Ghostblade gets play on Lucian, and sometimes others as well. Same goes for Shiv. Sure, lots of ADCs go IE/PD/BT/LW, but there are actually a lot of ADCs that build a lot of different items that give them power spikes at different times.

And all of them have been played professionally this season, so "pick diversity" isn't a myth. They might not get play as often as Graves, but clearly they are viable in the proper team composition at a professional level. Just because there is a 'standard' play doesn't mean that trying to spike power at different point in the game or in different situations isn't a thing. It also doesn't mean that different team compositions with different goals aren't a thing.

-Edit- Hah, my first post since I registered 7 years ago! Totally didn't realize.


Season long pick diversity isn't indicative of any skill in balancing because there are multiple patches per season (several already, and we are only halfway through). The 56 Champs used in 49 games in NA LCS, or 54/50 EU are pretty bad, and still wouldnt be ideal if this was all on 1 patch, but its not very good at all when there are picks from week 1 and last week that don't overlap, and that is mostly because of patches.
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Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
February 25 2015 21:13 GMT
#136
Damn, Riot has come far when it comes to releasing interesting champs. When I still played the game they were pretty much releasing generic bruiser after generic bruiser with a couple of week in between.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 21:15:44
February 25 2015 21:15 GMT
#137
On February 26 2015 05:49 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 05:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 26 2015 05:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Is he as stupid or more stupid than Top Hecarim?


Top Hecarim at least can stick to your target, lol.
Top Sion is just brick wall which can't do anything late game outside of hitting walls.


Sion you don't stick to a target, you just stand in front of your adc and stun/slow/reduce armor/%health damage anyone who tries to get to them. If you Q on top of your ADC whoever is focusing them either run or gets knocked up for 2.25 seconds every 5 seconds. You're a utility tank.



And then your whole team is dead, because enemy adc is untouched, amirite?

Whole idea behind Sion's teamfighting is splitting the fights, if you stick to protect your adc, you just don't play Sion for full potential.
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Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
February 25 2015 21:43 GMT
#138
Sion teamfighting is absolutely bonkers if you can ult multiple people. Ult-Q-W detonation on 3 people will generally mean game over. Otherwise it's pretty bad because people can just ignore you. Sure he's immortal but his skills are so clunky if they're not standing still they might as well not be there.

Not to say the champ isn't super strong, I've just been firstpicking him and getting free wins against almost everything top, that E-Q with your W up feels super unfair. They come at you, they lose because of your shield. They don't they lose because of your E.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 25 2015 21:57 GMT
#139
On February 26 2015 05:04 Frudgey wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what's "stupid" about Top Hecarim? I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, I honestly don't know what the deal is about Top Hecarim.

I haven't seen it much but he feels like he outduels the immobile champs like Darius while being very mobile.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
thejuju
Profile Joined January 2015
United States413 Posts
February 25 2015 22:00 GMT
#140
I'm finally coming back to playing after injuring my wrist like 5 months ago. Anything I should know before I jump into yolo q again and feed in all my placements?
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