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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 22:33:33
February 25 2015 22:33 GMT
#141
On February 26 2015 07:00 thejuju wrote:
I'm finally coming back to playing after injuring my wrist like 5 months ago. Anything I should know before I jump into yolo q again and feed in all my placements?


Listen to Taylor Swift 'Shake it off' it's a sick song
aka Teutonica
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 25 2015 22:41 GMT
#142
EUW is just going ham right now :p
Never laughed so hard, 10 moonwalking champions is better than playing BW with 500 ping.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 25 2015 22:52 GMT
#143
I've played 3 games, haven't noticed a problem.

Except for shitty teams. That's a problem! AwHAW!
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 23:48:00
February 25 2015 22:59 GMT
#144
Lag free for me as well.

Yea it is lagging only for some people ofc.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 26 2015 00:03 GMT
#145
On February 26 2015 07:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 07:00 thejuju wrote:
I'm finally coming back to playing after injuring my wrist like 5 months ago. Anything I should know before I jump into yolo q again and feed in all my placements?


Listen to Taylor Swift 'Shake it off' it's a sick song


This man knows what's up
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 00:37:32
February 26 2015 00:36 GMT
#146
Anyone know how to get team mates to buy pinks and throw them out somewhere on the map? I've asked politely for them to so so, told them that vision = wins, etc., etc., but because of my current ELO they think kills = wins and their logic is that by spending their gold on items (not vision) they'll get kills.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 26 2015 00:48 GMT
#147
On February 26 2015 09:36 Kinie wrote:
Anyone know how to get team mates to buy pinks and throw them out somewhere on the map? I've asked politely for them to so so, told them that vision = wins, etc., etc., but because of my current ELO they think kills = wins and their logic is that by spending their gold on items (not vision) they'll get kills.


Tell a specific player exactly where to place a pink and sometimes they will do it. You must already have your pink out for this to work.

So far I'm 8-1 with my "Yolo push to inhib and never get caught" Sion strat. Even easier when people build armor vs you. I max Q over W though (obv E first), even though its not much good in lane you get nothing per point in shield, and Q is much better for teamfights.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 26 2015 00:49 GMT
#148
Ouch, and it started to bug splat again like in 4.19.
Thanks, DJ Sona, I expected you to be good girl.

On February 26 2015 09:36 Kinie wrote:
Anyone know how to get team mates to buy pinks and throw them out somewhere on the map? I've asked politely for them to so so, told them that vision = wins, etc., etc., but because of my current ELO they think kills = wins and their logic is that by spending their gold on items (not vision) they'll get kills.


Easier to tell them to buy pink than to get sweeper and even better, oracle.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 01:13:52
February 26 2015 01:13 GMT
#149
Sion is pretty strong, the winrates agree. He's good tank and damage and has good cc/poke to boot. He gets free hp that adds up as well as has extra stuff that scales off health.

Normally all you do is buy 1 damage item (I prefer hydra but brutalizer/ghostblade isn't bad) and then stack health/mitigation items. Helps that you can use item actives when your passive is going as well. You can even play him as support bot lane since he can does good damage, is tanky, has good utility and armor shred, and utilizes targon's very well.

Also vision != wins, I buy 0 wards and I do just fine while I've seen bronze (diamond) players who buy a ton of wards just suck so bad at the game that they're still bronze (diamond).
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Nohiko
Profile Joined January 2015
71 Posts
February 26 2015 01:16 GMT
#150
On February 26 2015 09:48 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 09:36 Kinie wrote:
Anyone know how to get team mates to buy pinks and throw them out somewhere on the map? I've asked politely for them to so so, told them that vision = wins, etc., etc., but because of my current ELO they think kills = wins and their logic is that by spending their gold on items (not vision) they'll get kills.


Tell a specific player exactly where to place a pink and sometimes they will do it. You must already have your pink out for this to work.

So far I'm 8-1 with my "Yolo push to inhib and never get caught" Sion strat. Even easier when people build armor vs you. I max Q over W though (obv E first), even though its not much good in lane you get nothing per point in shield, and Q is much better for teamfights.


I usually feel more useful by grouping with team once I get my 1st tier tower down, though I'll occasionally stick around for the tier 2. I think it depends on how go about being relevant in a team posturing/fight situation. My MO with Sion is basically "exist near the enemy team for long enough and they will fuck up eventually". Sion's abilities can devastate an out of position backline and if you stand around flexing you muscles at the other team, eventually they will screw up and give you an opening to their squishys.

Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
February 26 2015 01:26 GMT
#151
On February 26 2015 10:13 101toss wrote:
Sion is pretty strong, the winrates agree. He's good tank and damage and has good cc/poke to boot. He gets free hp that adds up as well as has extra stuff that scales off health.

Normally all you do is buy 1 damage item (I prefer hydra but brutalizer/ghostblade isn't bad) and then stack health/mitigation items. Helps that you can use item actives when your passive is going as well. You can even play him as support bot lane since he can does good damage, is tanky, has good utility and armor shred, and utilizes targon's very well.

Also vision != wins, I buy 0 wards and I do just fine while I've seen bronze (diamond) players who buy a ton of wards just suck so bad at the game that they're still bronze (diamond).


Please don't give terrible advice about vision when every analyst has hours of explaining how and why having vision is important.
asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
February 26 2015 01:37 GMT
#152
On February 26 2015 09:36 Kinie wrote:
Anyone know how to get team mates to buy pinks and throw them out somewhere on the map? I've asked politely for them to so so, told them that vision = wins, etc., etc., but because of my current ELO they think kills = wins and their logic is that by spending their gold on items (not vision) they'll get kills.


The more you can lead by example/specifics the better. Such as [when playing mid], "I'll pink the back of our red, could top or jungle please pink the river brush behind our blue or the blue bush?" Once you notice people getting to four/five items, just do a casual remind "Hey guys, let's make sure everyone has a pink before we get to six items"

And like many things, it's only going to pay if you stay consistent, persistent, and patient. You lose nothing if 9/10 people don't listen to you...but you do gain that one extra ward. And the moment you turn into the standard sarcastic, insulting internet persona, not even that 10th dude is going to listen -- regardless of how good the advice is.
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
February 26 2015 01:47 GMT
#153
On February 26 2015 10:26 Kaneh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 10:13 101toss wrote:
Sion is pretty strong, the winrates agree. He's good tank and damage and has good cc/poke to boot. He gets free hp that adds up as well as has extra stuff that scales off health.

Normally all you do is buy 1 damage item (I prefer hydra but brutalizer/ghostblade isn't bad) and then stack health/mitigation items. Helps that you can use item actives when your passive is going as well. You can even play him as support bot lane since he can does good damage, is tanky, has good utility and armor shred, and utilizes targon's very well.

Also vision != wins, I buy 0 wards and I do just fine while I've seen bronze (diamond) players who buy a ton of wards just suck so bad at the game that they're still bronze (diamond).


Please don't give terrible advice about vision when every analyst has hours of explaining how and why having vision is important.

I think his point is that vision is useless if noone looks at the minimap. Which happens in bronze. True.
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
February 26 2015 01:55 GMT
#154
Does Bard R work on the Nexus?
Stay positive!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 26 2015 02:05 GMT
#155
well dj sona is pretty sweet after seeing it in game, but she's still pretty bad imo
Carrilord has arrived.
FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
February 26 2015 02:11 GMT
#156
On February 26 2015 06:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Top Hecarim has been getting played in CN/KR challenger for months, and there are a bunch of people who pretty much main it. Keane just copied it and brought it to the ignorant white devils


Keane was playing it in Oceania while he was still there...
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 02:54:12
February 26 2015 02:53 GMT
#157
On February 26 2015 11:05 Slusher wrote:
well dj sona is pretty sweet after seeing it in game, but she's still pretty bad imo


Sona? Lane bully and ult is smooth and not bugged nowdays, all cool.
She might suck against Leona/Annie, but she definitely has her niche.

On February 26 2015 11:11 FeltFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 06:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Top Hecarim has been getting played in CN/KR challenger for months, and there are a bunch of people who pretty much main it. Keane just copied it and brought it to the ignorant white devils


Keane was playing it in Oceania while he was still there...


Considering that Immunity almost qualified to Worlds Season 3 by playing rat League with ad Lulu, somehow, I'm not surprised.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2015 02:59 GMT
#158
Meh Nami is a much bigger lane bully, and Lulu too (if you're fine with no sustain and autolosing to Soraka/Sona/Nami).
Her sustain is the strongest part of Sona's kit in lane pre-6 now, her damage on both Q and powerchord is really meh. You also can't really poke by yourself, you need your partner to stand in your aura and use the Q buff on the enemy too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 26 2015 03:27 GMT
#159
On February 26 2015 10:26 Kaneh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 10:13 101toss wrote:
Sion is pretty strong, the winrates agree. He's good tank and damage and has good cc/poke to boot. He gets free hp that adds up as well as has extra stuff that scales off health.

Normally all you do is buy 1 damage item (I prefer hydra but brutalizer/ghostblade isn't bad) and then stack health/mitigation items. Helps that you can use item actives when your passive is going as well. You can even play him as support bot lane since he can does good damage, is tanky, has good utility and armor shred, and utilizes targon's very well.

Also vision != wins, I buy 0 wards and I do just fine while I've seen bronze (diamond) players who buy a ton of wards just suck so bad at the game that they're still bronze (diamond).


Please don't give terrible advice about vision when every analyst has hours of explaining how and why having vision is important.

maybe in pro games but solo q is a different world entirely

also a lot of analysts are shitty players, i have a silver friend who follows ogn and calls my playstyle utter shit, but there's a reason people like him are still silver
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 26 2015 04:03 GMT
#160
On February 26 2015 12:27 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 10:26 Kaneh wrote:
On February 26 2015 10:13 101toss wrote:
Sion is pretty strong, the winrates agree. He's good tank and damage and has good cc/poke to boot. He gets free hp that adds up as well as has extra stuff that scales off health.

Normally all you do is buy 1 damage item (I prefer hydra but brutalizer/ghostblade isn't bad) and then stack health/mitigation items. Helps that you can use item actives when your passive is going as well. You can even play him as support bot lane since he can does good damage, is tanky, has good utility and armor shred, and utilizes targon's very well.

Also vision != wins, I buy 0 wards and I do just fine while I've seen bronze (diamond) players who buy a ton of wards just suck so bad at the game that they're still bronze (diamond).


Please don't give terrible advice about vision when every analyst has hours of explaining how and why having vision is important.

maybe in pro games but solo q is a different world entirely

also a lot of analysts are shitty players, i have a silver friend who follows ogn and calls my playstyle utter shit, but there's a reason people like him are still silver


"[My] friend who follows ogn" is not an analyst.

Also, buying 0 wards and doing 'just fine' doesn't really mean anything. Players better than you buy wards and do fine, does that instantly override your observation? Players worse than you have tried following both paths and failed. Maybe not buying wards is holding you back and you don't know it because you have falsely decided '[you] do just fine.' Maybe not. This isn't so much about calling you wrong(although I believe you are) and more about pointing out how dumb and lacking in any actual content the statement is.
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