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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 07:36:26
March 05 2015 07:36 GMT
#801
Darius Rework incoming.
Riot fucking needs to stop molesting champions they have no business touching.
liftlift > tsm
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 05 2015 07:40 GMT
#802
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/34-pbe-update.html#more

Wondering what this Sru_duck might be. Also Ryze rework incoming and Darius buffs incoming for the next patch (or nerfs or small rework). Wondering when they will announce Yorick/Poppy/Taric reworks they announced not that long ago.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 07:50:01
March 05 2015 07:44 GMT
#803
On March 05 2015 16:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Darius Rework incoming.
Riot fucking needs to stop molesting champions they have no business touching.

to be fair darius actually might be the worst champion in the game right now, i would prefer to have gp than darius in my team
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 07:53:46
March 05 2015 07:50 GMT
#804
On March 05 2015 16:44 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Darius Rework incoming.
Riot fucking needs to stop molesting champions they have no business touching.

to be fair darius actually might be the worst champion in the game right now, i would prefer to have gp than darius in my team

what are you smoking? he's been holding at 50% w:r in solo queue for a long time now.

he's a got a solid kit, that exploit early game weaknesses of other melee champs, but in mid game has plenty of counterplay opportunities for the enemy team.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 05 2015 07:56 GMT
#805
Hey Gahlo tried to start up a PBE thread (again) so maybe take the discussion there? Don't want to start the whole "fracturing GD" thing again but the thread already exists and would be a good place to discuss speculative and upcoming things ^_^
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 08:06:06
March 05 2015 08:02 GMT
#806
think we established winrate isnt the best way to asses strength of a champion especially if its ~50/ + -4
hes relaying on completely smashing to the ground his lane opponent to be viable if u go even (he cant even beat irelia anymore the champion he usted to counter super hard because they gutted everything in his kit in past patches) u are basically a minion
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 08:06:54
March 05 2015 08:05 GMT
#807
On March 05 2015 13:30 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 12:11 sob3k wrote:
On March 05 2015 10:29 GolemMadness wrote:
On March 05 2015 08:56 Chexx wrote:
On March 05 2015 08:14 101toss wrote:
On March 05 2015 07:58 Amui wrote:
On March 05 2015 07:38 RagequitBM wrote:
It's kinda true though. I play around gold elo atm, and the map is always lit up like a christmas tree, but we all suck too much to look at it, so the wards do nothing anyway!

In other news, had a booster on my team the other day, and they played Vayne ended 23 - 2 with 44k damage. Second highest damage was 16k. Thought I could learn something about carrying as ADC, but when I rewatched the game I literally couldn't see what they did better than I do. Obviously they do something, but I guess I'm too awful to see it. I feel dumb.

Edit: my kinda true comment was about how low elo worries way too much about game knowledge bit

In most cases, higher level players find ways to deal damage that low level players don't. You can probably see the window, but you can't process the decision to take advantage of it in time.

It's true, why do you think I talk about buying damage items, taking ignite bot lane, all-inning, invading, and 21 offense all the time

Picking high winrate champions also makes it easier to win. I wonder why all those high winrate champions have good kill potential (damage and tankiness or just fucktons of damage). Hmmm...


because sustain supports have been nerfed to the ground


NOT SORAKA.


In my experience she's pretty fucking bad. That Q is way too hard to land at safe range, and every time you take harass getting too close it's effectively double that damage on your ADC.

Maybe if my adc's would adapt their play and trade super aggressively she would work better, but they are always too scared of taking damage.


I find most ADC's don't really understand how to play with a Soraka either, but even still, it's pretty damn hard to lose lane. She's also quite strong against assassins. You shouldn't really take much harass since you can stay behind your ADC. I find her biggest weakness in lane is that she provides next to 0 gank assistance.

Yeah very few people pick her and the way you play with soraka has nothing to do with playing with any other support.I think she is strong but in solo very often nobody picks any cc and it can be a problem when your support doesn't really offer much of it either.

Played a few games with zilean honestly feels like absolutely the same champ.Have landed like 2 double bombs in 2 games out of lane unless somebody ccs them first lol.Have never had this much issue with landing a skillshot.

Darius isn't as bad as you are making him out to be.Probably a solid average from what I have seen.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 05 2015 08:08 GMT
#808
On March 05 2015 16:56 Zess wrote:
Hey Gahlo tried to start up a PBE thread (again) so maybe take the discussion there? Don't want to start the whole "fracturing GD" thing again but the thread already exists and would be a good place to discuss speculative and upcoming things ^_^

Forgot about that thread, need to get used to it ^^
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 05 2015 08:37 GMT
#809
On March 05 2015 16:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Darius Rework incoming.
Riot fucking needs to stop molesting champions they have no business touching.

They've been saying this for ages now, it's not new.

cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 05 2015 08:40 GMT
#810
I dont see why Darius shouldn't be the S2 Ret Paladin of LoL
Freeeeeeedom
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 05 2015 10:27 GMT
#811
On March 05 2015 16:40 739 wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/34-pbe-update.html#more

Wondering what this Sru_duck might be. Also Ryze rework incoming and Darius buffs incoming for the next patch (or nerfs or small rework). Wondering when they will announce Yorick/Poppy/Taric reworks they announced not that long ago.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1880646

I guess this explains all, just a random duck swimming in the river, lol.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 05 2015 11:02 GMT
#812
I'd love it if they gave it a quack. Like, you're struggling in lane, game sucks, and then a duck walks into lane and goes "wah wah wah wah" before receding back down into the river.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 13:15:23
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#813
On March 05 2015 16:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Darius Rework incoming.
Riot fucking needs to stop molesting champions they have no business touching.


darius is toxic as FUCK

his mobility sucks meaning his teamfighting is like a bad nasus with no tankiness but he is absolutely toxic in lane

that comparison with ret paladin is fucking perfect

he's just like a toxic reverse-garen
aka Teutonica
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 14:01:24
March 05 2015 13:45 GMT
#814
We're going to test out ways of giving Darius more access to his ult mid to late game as a result, with potential options at higher ranks including lower mana costs, lower CD, longer recast window, possibly (note: this one's pretty experimental) a full reset at max rank etc.

That'd be nice.

They did this with Garen's passive. It's way stronger level 16 than level 1-15. Like "idk, is my passive working? Maybe it's bugged" to "holy shit my passive is to be always standing in a fountain!"


That said, I'm surprised Darius is actually back to a 50% win rate. He's been 48% for a few months I think.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
March 05 2015 13:56 GMT
#815
hahaha everything that requires advanced thinking, team effort and differentiates from one size fits all counterplay is considered toxic in this game xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 05 2015 13:58 GMT
#816
Yeah I'm in favor of a Darius rework. I dislike sink-or-swim champions, and I think every one should have a chance to be good or bad with skill involved in outplaying them. That's not how Darius is in lane, yet like others stated he's bad when it comes to team fighting.
Hey! How you doin'?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 14:14:38
March 05 2015 14:13 GMT
#817
On March 05 2015 22:56 M2 wrote:
hahaha everything that requires advanced thinking, team effort and differentiates from one size fits all counterplay is considered toxic in this game xD


its not his ult in teamfights thats toxic its his lane phase

its basically "if you are melee you are fucked if you are ranged easy lane"
his pull+slow basically punishes any melee who who is less than 80% hp and ranged champions too stupid to stay out of its short range+long animation time
aka Teutonica
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 17:18:16
March 05 2015 17:16 GMT
#818
On March 05 2015 23:13 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:56 M2 wrote:
hahaha everything that requires advanced thinking, team effort and differentiates from one size fits all counterplay is considered toxic in this game xD


its not his ult in teamfights thats toxic its his lane phase

its basically "if you are melee you are fucked if you are ranged easy lane"
his pull+slow basically punishes any melee who who is less than 80% hp and ranged champions too stupid to stay out of its short range+long animation time


In my experience he's very binary. If you have a good matchup (against melees as you say) you generally smash lane, otherwise you get smashed. Then it's the same in teamfights, if the enemy team can kite decently you get beaten to a pulp regardless of how lane went. If they can't kite well you can do okay if you smashed lane, otherwise you're fucked anyway.

It's not about advanced thinking, team effort and counterplay. The issue with Darius is that counterplay is extremely limited. If the enemy team picked champions that are bad against Darius you can do well. If they picked champions that are good against Darius you WILL get smashed. No amount of clever thinking can change this, it's just the way his kit works.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
March 05 2015 17:18 GMT
#819
On March 05 2015 22:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
We're going to test out ways of giving Darius more access to his ult mid to late game as a result, with potential options at higher ranks including lower mana costs, lower CD, longer recast window, possibly (note: this one's pretty experimental) a full reset at max rank etc.

That'd be nice.

They did this with Garen's passive. It's way stronger level 16 than level 1-15. Like "idk, is my passive working? Maybe it's bugged" to "holy shit my passive is to be always standing in a fountain!"


That said, I'm surprised Darius is actually back to a 50% win rate. He's been 48% for a few months I think.


it's pretty good at lvl 11 its just mundo ult at lvl 16 lol

lvl 6 regenerating 100-200 hp can be extremely valuable so they dont make it too good especially when some guys cant pop it without trading
aka Teutonica
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 05 2015 17:30 GMT
#820
On March 05 2015 19:27 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:40 739 wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/34-pbe-update.html#more

Wondering what this Sru_duck might be. Also Ryze rework incoming and Darius buffs incoming for the next patch (or nerfs or small rework). Wondering when they will announce Yorick/Poppy/Taric reworks they announced not that long ago.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1880646

I guess this explains all, just a random duck swimming in the river, lol.


I'm 100% in favor of things that make the game more cute :3
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