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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 07:17:35
March 04 2015 07:16 GMT
#761
On March 04 2015 03:54 justiceknight wrote:
any nida jg tips? i cant even clear gromp + blue, what skills do i exactly start and skill sequence? If i get countered jg, what do i do?


QEW is the safest
Q->Smite->cougar Q-> AA on gromp then heal->spear->AA->cougar E/Q on blue

If you get counter jungled, you can usually duel them if you can get the Hunted proc on them or try to poke them out with spear/traps. You can always give up the buff and still jungle pretty quickly clearing the small camps.

Also, you want to run flat AP quints+blues. Flat AD reds also make jungling easier but some players prefer mpen
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 08:26:21
March 04 2015 08:15 GMT
#762
On March 04 2015 03:54 justiceknight wrote:
any nida jg tips? i cant even clear gromp + blue, what skills do i exactly start and skill sequence? If i get countered jg, what do i do?

I'm a bit late on the reply, and I'm still not good at Nid clears but I think the thing that helped most was trying to maximize the number of pounces I got on hunted targets.

Oh and I do scuttle crabs since I can't do melee clears to save my life. You naturally regen some health while doing scuttle crabs and have more time to use your heal.

At raptors on your first clear it can be worth it to kill the little raptors first since they hurt more for their health.
On Krugs, you can kill the small krug first too if you're not going to smite the golems on your second clear.

I do W -> Q -> E.

I prefer krugs to gromp since I spend a lot of time in ranged form where the monsters can't attack me to trigger gromp, and Nid has good early AoE damage for krugs. Also the red buff is great because I can heal off it earlier (lvl2) when my clear speed is slower and I take more damage from camps.
My preferable path is Krugs -> raptors -> scuttle -> red -> wolves -> blue -> gromp -> scuttle.

I rarely ever get invaded in the jungle, and Nid's not that bad of a duelist unless you're against someone like Panth with his W, low CD Q, crit passives, and 2x auto block. Usually you can run away if you're lower on health and they won't be able to take your buff because they'll be sitting ducks for spears and will take a lot of damage from the camps. But if they invade at level 2 on your first buff camp, there's not much you can do. You can drop the trinket ward to watch for the level 2 invade but then it can't be used to watch for a level 1 invade or for a variety of other things for 2 minutes.

I also tend to get flask when I can.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 04 2015 08:43 GMT
#763
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 04 2015 09:08 GMT
#764
Brand is squishy as heck, don't you just 100-0 him at 6 as Darius? Even if he stuns you after Apprehend, you have the W slow and the MS buff from the passive to get back in.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 04 2015 13:28 GMT
#765
So, they did a bunch if Veigar buffs on PBE, like EH stopping dashes and the windup starting at the beginning rather than end of the cast animation and an increased speed on Q. Viable again?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
March 04 2015 13:41 GMT
#766
I like a lot of the changes in this patch,
Livin' this life like it was written.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 04 2015 13:59 GMT
#767
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 04 2015 16:50 GMT
#768
On March 04 2015 22:28 Osmoses wrote:
So, they did a bunch if Veigar buffs on PBE, like EH stopping dashes and the windup starting at the beginning rather than end of the cast animation and an increased speed on Q. Viable again?


Eh, I think his new Q really sucks. Kills his all in ability and his trading ability, you need to not get creep blocked, which you just cannot really do.

I dunno, might be good depending on how the stun feels I guess. Best case scenario you're as good as old veigar maxing W, because you can only really trade with W E now. And no one maxed W because it was worse than Q max for trading by a significant margin. Ult nerfs also really hurt his rubber banding nature.

And at the end of the day, E is still worse than before.

I'm going to guess not, but I'd have to play it.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 04 2015 16:54 GMT
#769


laugh now
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 04 2015 17:06 GMT
#770
that might be the most beautiful sequence of events I've ever seen

I was waiting for a whiffed malph ult
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 04 2015 17:23 GMT
#771
and people say NA is trash

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all solo q is trash
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 04 2015 18:59 GMT
#772
The laugh is infectious. They should make that the laugh effect of Lux's male skin.
Hey! How you doin'?
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
March 04 2015 19:14 GMT
#773
On March 05 2015 01:54 justiceknight wrote:
http://youtu.be/JEMzaoYt_ao

laugh now

Oh my god. That was.... beautiful!
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 04 2015 19:36 GMT
#774
On March 04 2015 18:08 Alaric wrote:
Brand is squishy as heck, don't you just 100-0 him at 6 as Darius? Even if he stuns you after Apprehend, you have the W slow and the MS buff from the passive to get back in.

This was in a game of Dominion, so what I say might not be relevant. However, I encountered a few problems:

1) Getting in range for an apprehend is an ordeal in itself. Remember that Brand's Q and W have a range of 900, his E has a range of 625 and his ultimate has a range of 750. Apprehend only has a range of 550.

2) That Q has a two second stun if he hits you while you have Brand's passive on you. So if I use apprehend to get on him, (which I had to do) that sucker had a pretty easy time getting a stun off of me. It then becomes difficult to land a Crippling strike on him.

3) Darius has no dashes (save for his ult, but you don't always want to lead with that), so it becomes harder to dodge skill shots. Possible yes, but not as easy if I were someone like, say Riven.

4) Brand does damage. So yes when I normally get on mages I can usually kill them before they kill me, there would be cases when I get on Brand and he decides to kill me straight up. It's close mind you, and if I was further ahead I think it would be possible.

Would probably be good to get a second opinion to (in)validate my observations, because to be honest this isn't a match up I'm super well rehearsed in. That being said I'm confident in saying that the match up is in Brand's favour.

I'd really need to play the match up again though, as common as it is. Heh.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 04 2015 19:51 GMT
#775
Darius always gets kited for days
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 04 2015 20:08 GMT
#776
I feel bad while leveling my smurf... these games are so fucking derpy...
liftlift > tsm
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 04 2015 20:42 GMT
#777
On March 05 2015 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
I feel bad while leveling my smurf... these games are so fucking derpy...

I've been playing normals with bronze-silver friends.
These games, I don't understand a single thing about them.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 04 2015 21:27 GMT
#778
Today I played with the Vayne who plays with his feet, litterally. Shit was awesome when he started to hardcarry lategame. That guy is so impressive and inspirational.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#779
On March 05 2015 05:42 Fildun wrote:
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On March 05 2015 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
I feel bad while leveling my smurf... these games are so fucking derpy...

I've been playing normals with bronze-silver friends.
These games, I don't understand a single thing about them.


Here is the secret: anything where you ask yourself "wtf is he thinking? " the answer is there is zero thought process.

If you think about map pressure, lane dynamics, team comps. .. any of that you trying too hard at that Elo.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:42:28
March 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#780
On March 05 2015 06:27 Jek wrote:
Today I played with the Vayne who plays with his feet, litterally. Shit was awesome when he started to hardcarry lategame. That guy is so impressive and inspirational.

Who is this man?? MacsHG looks like?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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