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Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
February 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#461
Dunno, but in my last game a jg Fizz soloed a mid swain that was 2 level up on him. It wasn't even close.
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
February 28 2015 18:25 GMT
#462
well fizz naturally beats swain in duels to to his anti heal but the new ad fizz is just such a monster in 1v1 due to how strong his kill potential is with r/w/q combo, skirmers+devour+botrk lets you destroy anyone 1v1
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 28 2015 18:26 GMT
#463
Yeah it feels like he attacks faster than he should when I watch AD fizz. And he has so much outplay potential. I'm glad fizz is still viable after the nerfs.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 28 2015 18:48 GMT
#464
On March 01 2015 00:19 Inflicted wrote:
Champion.gg updated for patch 5.4

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=ascend&roleSort=Middle
4 midlaners <40% WR

What I find even more interesting is Heimerdinger by far got the highest winrate with 58%.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 28 2015 18:54 GMT
#465
On March 01 2015 03:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 02:10 kongoline wrote:
whats the deal with nb3 stream title "Abusing Rito's Mistakes FIZZ JUNGLE"
is fizz bugged or something?



He always tries to have attention grabbing titles. NB3 grates on my nerves. Why is he popular? TSM?!?!


he did like 5 bronze to diamond thingies before he got banned for it, people love to watch that crap.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 28 2015 19:01 GMT
#466
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 28 2015 19:07 GMT
#467
On March 01 2015 03:48 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 00:19 Inflicted wrote:
Champion.gg updated for patch 5.4

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=ascend&roleSort=Middle
4 midlaners <40% WR

What I find even more interesting is Heimerdinger by far got the highest winrate with 58%.

Speaking of fun stats ashe sitting on top of ADCs. Sufficiency was right all along, the ashe damage is too much for anyone :>
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 19:44:12
February 28 2015 19:09 GMT
#468
On March 01 2015 03:25 aurawashere wrote:
well fizz naturally beats swain in duels to to his anti heal but the new ad fizz is just such a monster in 1v1 due to how strong his kill potential is with r/w/q combo, skirmers+devour+botrk lets you destroy anyone 1v1


greivous wounds was removed from his kit

ad Fizz is pretty dang good, and fun. but if you are desprate to rank up I would not recommend him over the S tier stuff

imo if you are looking to carry with Triforce top, Hecarim>Irelia>Jax>Fizz

hecarim, in my opinion might be the most broken solo Q champion in the game right now, he has it all, retarded 1 damage item damage, press R to win teamfights, splitpush, he has ignite kill pressure WHILE having teleport, the low mana cost on Q now makes it really hard to deny him farm, and as always his 6 item build is so ridiculous. I've thought top pony was pretty good for a while now but this no movement summoner innovation has taken him to the next level to me, abuse it while you can imo.
Carrilord has arrived.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 28 2015 19:37 GMT
#469
On March 01 2015 04:01 JimmiC wrote:
Pretty sure sion top is OP as hell. I build pure tank till the 6th item and often come in second in damage and some times first.


I almost want to ban it some games. It's just such a pain in the ass to deal with, primarily as someone who tends to play snowbally tops.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 20:12:27
February 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#470
On March 01 2015 04:07 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 03:48 Jek wrote:
On March 01 2015 00:19 Inflicted wrote:
Champion.gg updated for patch 5.4

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=ascend&roleSort=Middle
4 midlaners <40% WR

What I find even more interesting is Heimerdinger by far got the highest winrate with 58%.

Speaking of fun stats ashe sitting on top of ADCs. Sufficiency was right all along, the ashe damage is too much for anyone :>

No, she's behind Ez, Kog, and Corki in terms of damage.

...I mean yeah! #bringBackSufficiency

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.totalDamageDealtToChampions&order=descend

On March 01 2015 03:48 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 00:19 Inflicted wrote:
Champion.gg updated for patch 5.4

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=ascend&roleSort=Middle
4 midlaners <40% WR

What I find even more interesting is Heimerdinger by far got the highest winrate with 58%.

Some sites tend to take one day's winrate or weighted moving averages and use that in their tables. I think champion.gg tends to do that.

Lolking has him nowhere near that high over a month.
http://www.lolking.net/champions/heimerdinger&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=platinum#statistics


Also I championgg said they only use plat+ games right on every page at the top right.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#471
On March 01 2015 03:25 aurawashere wrote:
well fizz naturally beats swain in duels to to his anti heal but the new ad fizz is just such a monster in 1v1 due to how strong his kill potential is with r/w/q combo, skirmers+devour+botrk lets you destroy anyone 1v1


fizz doesn't have anti heal on his w anymore., most likely swain just missplayed or you're exaggerating
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 28 2015 20:25 GMT
#472


NiQ benched, Betsy in first squad.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 28 2015 20:25 GMT
#473
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 28 2015 20:40 GMT
#474
On March 01 2015 03:25 aurawashere wrote:
well fizz naturally beats swain in duels to to his anti heal but the new ad fizz is just such a monster in 1v1 due to how strong his kill potential is with r/w/q combo, skirmers+devour+botrk lets you destroy anyone 1v1


he doesn't have grevious wounds anymore, unless you're talking about the missing hp additional damage on w
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 28 2015 21:26 GMT
#475
Should I be worried if Malz is third highest winrate in the game?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 28 2015 21:29 GMT
#476
On March 01 2015 00:24 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 00:11 Gahlo wrote:
On March 01 2015 00:09 IamPryda wrote:
So does new jungle item do more or less damage then Sunfire? Wish amumu and Rammus could have seen some love. Honestly a partially revert on Rammus q cooldown would be enough for me

Cinderhulk has a 15 damage base, Sunfire Cape has a 25 damage base.

cinderhulk also doubles in damage in you've been in combat for an unknown duration of time.

Does it? Wasn't mined when I saw it.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 28 2015 21:32 GMT
#477
On March 01 2015 06:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Should I be worried if Malz is third highest winrate in the game?

Win rate is irrelevant unless reddit whines about it a lot so nope.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#478
I tried out the new Zilean, and he just feels awful to play. His Q does significantly less damage and it's a hard to land skill shot and it has a higher cooldown until level 5. Then his auto range was lowered, so he's just terrible in lane. The stun on a double bomb is cool and all has some good potential, but it's just too damn hard to actually execute. You basically need to combo it with someone else's CC. It's like having to land two Nami bubbles in a 3 second span for it to actually CC.

The lower mana and cooldown on E are nice, but the slow/haste were also nerfed significantly at rank 1. Since W no longer affects your ult's cooldown, it feels like they want you to max E after Q, but then the cooldown on your rewind is so damn long. His ult is just straight up nerfed (much higher cooldown, lower duration).

Overall, as someone who played a lot of Zilean in season 4, all of this sucks.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 28 2015 22:54 GMT
#479
On March 01 2015 07:33 GolemMadness wrote:
I tried out the new Zilean, and he just feels awful to play. His Q does significantly less damage and it's a hard to land skill shot and it has a higher cooldown until level 5. Then his auto range was lowered, so he's just terrible in lane. The stun on a double bomb is cool and all has some good potential, but it's just too damn hard to actually execute. You basically need to combo it with someone else's CC. It's like having to land two Nami bubbles in a 3 second span for it to actually CC.

The lower mana and cooldown on E are nice, but the slow/haste were also nerfed significantly at rank 1. Since W no longer affects your ult's cooldown, it feels like they want you to max E after Q, but then the cooldown on your rewind is so damn long. His ult is just straight up nerfed (much higher cooldown, lower duration).

Overall, as someone who played a lot of Zilean in season 4, all of this sucks.

I personally think the direction was good, and there is potential, but he's not there yet. Needs a few more adjustments.

Among other things, I'd like to see him have his 600 range AA back. Variety is good.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 23:56:34
February 28 2015 23:19 GMT
#480
On March 01 2015 07:54 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2015 07:33 GolemMadness wrote:
I tried out the new Zilean, and he just feels awful to play. His Q does significantly less damage and it's a hard to land skill shot and it has a higher cooldown until level 5. Then his auto range was lowered, so he's just terrible in lane. The stun on a double bomb is cool and all has some good potential, but it's just too damn hard to actually execute. You basically need to combo it with someone else's CC. It's like having to land two Nami bubbles in a 3 second span for it to actually CC.

The lower mana and cooldown on E are nice, but the slow/haste were also nerfed significantly at rank 1. Since W no longer affects your ult's cooldown, it feels like they want you to max E after Q, but then the cooldown on your rewind is so damn long. His ult is just straight up nerfed (much higher cooldown, lower duration).

Overall, as someone who played a lot of Zilean in season 4, all of this sucks.

I personally think the direction was good, and there is potential, but he's not there yet. Needs a few more adjustments.

Among other things, I'd like to see him have his 600 range AA back. Variety is good.

The thing is a lot of the newer champs like Rek'sai and Sion don't have weaknesses. They can push, sustain or block harass, have cc that isn't countered by tenacity, do damage, don't have mana problems, etc... But they also don't have anything interesting or outstanding other than their ults.

The variety is disappearing. Eg. hard cc that lasts for a long time: Rammus, Fiddle, Veigar. It's only a matter of time before Morg's snare is hit. Sion's lifesteal ult was hit, Poppy's ult is on course for removal.
I'm hopeful bard will be unique though in ways other than just his ulti.

Nvm this makes no sense
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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