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On January 30 2015 06:17 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 06:01 Kinie wrote:On January 30 2015 05:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Anyone try triforce on gnar? His mega has the highest base damage in the game but I'm having a hard time getting over the fact he doesn't use the mana. Its a pretty common buy on Gnar as his one offensive item. The main issue with it is the long delay it provides on you getting tanky. The only time I'd get it as a first buy is when I get a bunch of free kills early on. Otherwise it makes for a great last item purchase in the late game Most pros tend to go hexdrinker because of the prevalence of APs in top, but there have been some LCK games where Gnar rushed Triforce first. And the tf first gnar has been mostly unsuccessful. IMO it's probably better in solo queue based on how it played out in those games.
Honestly the cast of the game where Duke went trinity really bothered me. Monte tunnelled so hard on trashing the pick up that he called out duke for dying with ult up in a fight where he hit a 3 man ult. Everthing you've said is true but i still contend if it had been ohq on trist that game, people would have come away thinking trinity was a good buy
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Baa?21248 Posts
On January 30 2015 06:39 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 04:22 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On January 29 2015 04:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
If you're playing double AP vs. double AP, among meta champs, people like Lissandra, LeBlanc, Kassadin, Rumble, Annie, and Fizz can all reasonably take Abyssal. Just like to point out Easyhoon rushed Tear-Abyssal playing Cassiopeia vs. IM a few nights ago o/ I mentioned this to you while we were discussing cassiopeia, azir, and kassadin a few days ago, and you called me silly
? WTF we didn't talk about Abyssal at all. infinite pls.
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On January 30 2015 06:25 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 06:01 Kinie wrote:On January 30 2015 05:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Anyone try triforce on gnar? His mega has the highest base damage in the game but I'm having a hard time getting over the fact he doesn't use the mana. Its a pretty common buy on Gnar as his one offensive item. The main issue with it is the long delay it provides on you getting tanky. The only time I'd get it as a first buy is when I get a bunch of free kills early on. Otherwise it makes for a great last item purchase in the late game Most pros tend to go hexdrinker because of the prevalence of APs in top, but there have been some LCK games where Gnar rushed Triforce first. Imo, if you're going to pick up Triforce on Gnar, it's probably best to pick up phage and then sit on it until you finish your tank items.
Phage is probably the better buy on Gnar and then to sit on it if you plan to go the Triforce route.
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Baa?21248 Posts
If you're going to pick up Phage, why not just Brutalizer or Hexdrinker? Those are stronger laning items, and since rushing a Triforce is generally a bad idea, Hex/Brut are both better items to just sit on than a Phage.
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It's pretty hard to wait for entire triforce on Gnar in pro play. People group so early for those early dragon, that the early powerspike of bruta or hexdrinker, and straight into tank is much more important. In solo queue where there's long lane phases, triforce is a lot more viable.
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Before the nerfs in patch 4.20, I think almost everyone was getting triforce on Gnar. Since then, full tank or hexdrinker into full tank is much more common.
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I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do?
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On January 30 2015 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do?
Land binding. Use blackshield when ADC about to get hit by CC.
grat's you're now a challenger level Morgana.
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Use w when you get 3 stacks on dagger.
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On January 30 2015 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do? Land binding. Use blackshield when ADC about to get hit by CC. grat's you're now a challenger level Morgana.
Don't forget flash ult + Zhonyas for your hard engage.
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On January 30 2015 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do?
Use the Morg thread. Morgana hasn't changed at all for like over a year.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Tristana felt even more clunky than before, holy moly.
Wasn't expecting it at all, tbh but this jump surpassed all my expectations.
Towers are seriously exploding on the other hand, in late game you basically need to proc E and that's it.
In general, I like how they pushed her early game to "you need to actually trade and not just throw your E at opponent", but Tristana/Nami lane should wreck havoc if properly played.
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On January 30 2015 06:46 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 06:17 cLutZ wrote:On January 30 2015 06:01 Kinie wrote:On January 30 2015 05:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Anyone try triforce on gnar? His mega has the highest base damage in the game but I'm having a hard time getting over the fact he doesn't use the mana. Its a pretty common buy on Gnar as his one offensive item. The main issue with it is the long delay it provides on you getting tanky. The only time I'd get it as a first buy is when I get a bunch of free kills early on. Otherwise it makes for a great last item purchase in the late game Most pros tend to go hexdrinker because of the prevalence of APs in top, but there have been some LCK games where Gnar rushed Triforce first. And the tf first gnar has been mostly unsuccessful. IMO it's probably better in solo queue based on how it played out in those games. Honestly the cast of the game where Duke went trinity really bothered me. Monte tunnelled so hard on trashing the pick up that he called out duke for dying with ult up in a fight where he hit a 3 man ult. Everthing you've said is true but i still contend if it had been ohq on trist that game, people would have come away thinking trinity was a good buy
Monte was oddly obsessed with it, and I agree. Its actually the games where Ssumday built it, when KT won that convinced me the buy was suboptimal.
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On January 30 2015 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do?
if you go mid you max W first and get early zhonya
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On January 30 2015 09:41 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 08:29 Ketara wrote:
I want to learn how to play Morgana, both mid and support.
How I do? if you go mid you max W first and get early zhonya
A common skill path is to get W to level 3 and then max Q, since rank 3 W is enough to wave clear.
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so first time had the pleasure to support kalista which trolled me and kept moving my champion into enemy turrets/botlane to kill me, wtf is this shit who thought giving random people ability to control my character is a good idea ....
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Save for the part where you choose in which direction you come out.
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Honestly I'm down for no choice it can be so clunky sometimes
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On January 30 2015 09:38 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 06:46 Slusher wrote:On January 30 2015 06:17 cLutZ wrote:On January 30 2015 06:01 Kinie wrote:On January 30 2015 05:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Anyone try triforce on gnar? His mega has the highest base damage in the game but I'm having a hard time getting over the fact he doesn't use the mana. Its a pretty common buy on Gnar as his one offensive item. The main issue with it is the long delay it provides on you getting tanky. The only time I'd get it as a first buy is when I get a bunch of free kills early on. Otherwise it makes for a great last item purchase in the late game Most pros tend to go hexdrinker because of the prevalence of APs in top, but there have been some LCK games where Gnar rushed Triforce first. And the tf first gnar has been mostly unsuccessful. IMO it's probably better in solo queue based on how it played out in those games. Honestly the cast of the game where Duke went trinity really bothered me. Monte tunnelled so hard on trashing the pick up that he called out duke for dying with ult up in a fight where he hit a 3 man ult. Everthing you've said is true but i still contend if it had been ohq on trist that game, people would have come away thinking trinity was a good buy Monte was oddly obsessed with it, and I agree. Its actually the games where Ssumday built it, when KT won that convinced me the buy was suboptimal.
The one thing that I dislike about Monte's casting is that he gets these pet peeves that trigger him and he does nothing but focus on it for way too long. Another is spouting off about how 11 turrets and 0 deaths is the best game of league.
Also, it happened because Samsung is even more garbo that KT is atm.
On January 30 2015 10:34 Slusher wrote:
Honestly I'm down for no choice it can be so clunky sometimes
I had one game where the Kalista kept giving me shit for screwing up her ult. It was also the first game I ever played bound to one. Then there was also the fact that she stopped me from Cataclysming for kills a couple times.
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On January 30 2015 10:47 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 09:38 cLutZ wrote:On January 30 2015 06:46 Slusher wrote:On January 30 2015 06:17 cLutZ wrote:On January 30 2015 06:01 Kinie wrote:On January 30 2015 05:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
Anyone try triforce on gnar? His mega has the highest base damage in the game but I'm having a hard time getting over the fact he doesn't use the mana. Its a pretty common buy on Gnar as his one offensive item. The main issue with it is the long delay it provides on you getting tanky. The only time I'd get it as a first buy is when I get a bunch of free kills early on. Otherwise it makes for a great last item purchase in the late game Most pros tend to go hexdrinker because of the prevalence of APs in top, but there have been some LCK games where Gnar rushed Triforce first. And the tf first gnar has been mostly unsuccessful. IMO it's probably better in solo queue based on how it played out in those games. Honestly the cast of the game where Duke went trinity really bothered me. Monte tunnelled so hard on trashing the pick up that he called out duke for dying with ult up in a fight where he hit a 3 man ult. Everthing you've said is true but i still contend if it had been ohq on trist that game, people would have come away thinking trinity was a good buy Monte was oddly obsessed with it, and I agree. Its actually the games where Ssumday built it, when KT won that convinced me the buy was suboptimal. The one thing that I dislike about Monte's casting is that he gets these pet peeves that trigger him and he does nothing but focus on it for way too long. Another is spouting off about how 11 turrets and 0 deaths is the best game of league. Also, it happened because Samsung is even more garbo that KT is atm. Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 10:34 Slusher wrote:
Honestly I'm down for no choice it can be so clunky sometimes I had one game where the Kalista kept giving me shit for screwing up her ult. It was also the first game I ever played bound to one. Then there was also the fact that she stopped me from Cataclysming for kills a couple times.
It also worked against CJ, but IMO it was a Pick/Ban victory that they could have closed out faster with a Hexdrinker.
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