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As of page 44, no more placement QQ in GD.

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Neo
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 26 2015 20:55 GMT
#1141
On January 27 2015 05:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:02 Ketara wrote:
Scip couldn't figure out how to do it.

He should put her in his JUNGLE CHALLENGE, which more people should participate in.


what
there are literally no useful contributors that aren't named Teutonica

fuck you mate

Also, brb recording full sej clear.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 20:56:53
January 26 2015 20:56 GMT
#1142
knew that would rile him up
i almost typed your name wheelking but my post was objectively better if i only mention myself
aka Teutonica
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 21:09:46
January 26 2015 21:01 GMT
#1143
Your posts objectively suck. Cuz that's my opinion.

Edit: My life doesn't agree with my schedule right now, otherwise I'd contribute more.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 26 2015 21:14 GMT
#1144
On January 27 2015 05:34 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:26 cLutZ wrote:
On January 27 2015 05:02 IamPryda wrote:
I just can't see the point of this change. There whole goal was to allow more diversity in the jungle where changes like these do the oppsite.

None of the post s2 changes have increased diversity, despite that consistently being the stated goal. Why would anyone be surprised at this point?


The thing is every season the jungle changes DO increase diversity, then they nerf all the new junglers people play until by the end of the season it's some combination of Jarvan/Lee/Khazix/Elise/Rengar again.

I don't recall any of this alleged diversity. Perhaps you could point me to the OGN games that demonstrate what you are taking about.
Freeeeeeedom
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 26 2015 21:18 GMT
#1145
Ok, 3:49 Sejuani full clear. This is with realistic runes/masteries, I ran attack speed reds, armor yellows, cdr blues, ap quints. Runes are 21/9/0, you can check the Aggro Sej page on lolking.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 26 2015 21:45 GMT
#1146
euw gone to shit im in game nobody can move or do anything i dont even know if i can leave cuz i dont want to have "leave" in match history
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:00:42
January 26 2015 22:00 GMT
#1147
On January 27 2015 05:26 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:02 IamPryda wrote:
I just can't see the point of this change. There whole goal was to allow more diversity in the jungle where changes like these do the oppsite.

None of the post s2 changes have increased diversity, despite that consistently being the stated goal. Why would anyone be surprised at this point?

"We don't like free stats. Here's Gnar"
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:06:14
January 26 2015 22:04 GMT
#1148
For me, the biggest issue with jungle right now is it does too much damage. Either give us Spirit Stone unique back when we upgrade the Machete or reduce the damage they do on first/second clear.

Or buff other, non-meta champs to make them jungle viable and not op fotm stuff.

And Neo, I agree that Rengar is a very boom/bust bungler atm, but the reason he's viable is he doesn't need to back as early, and once he gets the t2 blade he's basically set jungle size with sustain in it.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2015 22:05 GMT
#1149
On January 27 2015 07:04 Kinie wrote:
For me, the biggest issue with jungle right now is it does too much damage. Either give us Spirit Stone unique back when we upgrade the Machete or reduce the damage they do on first/second clear.

Or buff other, non-meta champs to make them jungle viable and not op fotm stuff.

The whole point of the new jungle was that it was supposed to do tons of damage and dissuade permafarming jungle like in s3 and s4.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 26 2015 22:07 GMT
#1150
no it was to make farming a meaningful decision so you cant just farm until someone pushes and then gank, you'll be low hp and thus either have to farm less to keep your hp up or farm and base

but you just play junglers who don't have that problem or something
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2015 22:09 GMT
#1151
At least they made the jungle give decent gold with the recent buff.Before it was stupid how low the income was.

Dunno why has nothing been done to stop duo lanes from doing jungle camps.They really need to make machete give xp and reduce the base on camps....
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 26 2015 22:11 GMT
#1152
On January 27 2015 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:04 Kinie wrote:
For me, the biggest issue with jungle right now is it does too much damage. Either give us Spirit Stone unique back when we upgrade the Machete or reduce the damage they do on first/second clear.

Or buff other, non-meta champs to make them jungle viable and not op fotm stuff.

The whole point of the new jungle was that it was supposed to do tons of damage and dissuade permafarming jungle like in s3 and s4.


The long spawn timers on camps dissuade us from permafarming jungle anyway. Also, we see very few pre-6 ganks unless you are a jungler with some form of CC (j4, Reksai, Panth, Rengar), whereas back in s3 and s4 they occurred more frequently because of better sustain and more bursty damage from those meta's champs.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:13:03
January 26 2015 22:12 GMT
#1153
basically s5 jungle is just s1 jungle where you can do a full clear and then have nothing to do but gank just like they tried tofix in s2

lol riot

but they added extra camp so you have less time
aka Teutonica
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:40:15
January 26 2015 22:39 GMT
#1154
On January 27 2015 07:11 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:04 Kinie wrote:
For me, the biggest issue with jungle right now is it does too much damage. Either give us Spirit Stone unique back when we upgrade the Machete or reduce the damage they do on first/second clear.

Or buff other, non-meta champs to make them jungle viable and not op fotm stuff.

The whole point of the new jungle was that it was supposed to do tons of damage and dissuade permafarming jungle like in s3 and s4.


The long spawn timers on camps dissuade us from permafarming jungle anyway. Also, we see very few pre-6 ganks unless you are a jungler with some form of CC (j4, Reksai, Panth, Rengar), whereas back in s3 and s4 they occurred more frequently because of better sustain and more bursty damage from those meta's champs.

Yeah, you can certainly gank pre 6 but it hurts a lot if it fails so I just gank if the lane is super pushed. It prevents games from snowballing early due to jungle pressure.

Just tried Azir again, I can't consistently box in red or blue but it's definitely possible. But his soldiers killed the little red plant thing and then red got out . It doesn't work.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:39:36
January 26 2015 22:39 GMT
#1155
On January 27 2015 07:12 Slayer91 wrote:
basically s5 jungle is just s1 jungle where you can do a full clear and then have nothing to do but gank just like they tried tofix in s2

lol riot

but they added extra camp so you have less time

i think this jungle is 50x better for the game than s2 cancer
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 26 2015 22:41 GMT
#1156
S2 was the best meta.
TranslatorBaa!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 26 2015 22:43 GMT
#1157
On January 27 2015 07:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
S2 was the best meta.

end of s1 was both the most fun to play and watch
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:00:46
January 26 2015 23:00 GMT
#1158
Pretty sure everyone who likes s2 the most is only because they just enjoyed the game a lot more back then because it was something new.Too many people lost their passion.

S2 meta was garbage.Only top lane was interesting.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 26 2015 23:01 GMT
#1159
sounds like a salty bot laner who did'nt get healed enough as a kid
aka Teutonica
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 26 2015 23:03 GMT
#1160
I actually enjoyed S4 the most. Maybe S2 was better than S3 dunno.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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