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As of page 44, no more placement QQ in GD.

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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 20:08:19
January 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#601
Besiktas is top 3 Turkey last time I checked, not sure about it recently but they used to play Champions League I think?
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
January 20 2015 20:46 GMT
#602
If Besiktas crazy fans show up for LCS games we're in for a treat
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 20 2015 20:51 GMT
#603
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/120-pbe-update.html

LOL. Alistar headbutt is a skillshot now.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 20 2015 20:54 GMT
#604
So... now no headbutt pulverize combo? neat. the new guys just get there hands on stuff and wreck everything.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
January 20 2015 20:56 GMT
#605
On January 21 2015 05:54 PrinceXizor wrote:
So... now no headbutt pulverize combo? neat. the new guys just get there hands on stuff and wreck everything.


I thought they took out this combo before this version of the PBE?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 20 2015 20:57 GMT
#606
Nah, it was still doable.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 20 2015 21:13 GMT
#607
--- Nuked ---
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 20 2015 21:15 GMT
#608
>> [Note: You can still W + Q combo. Doesn't look like you can cross terrain with it.]

So all good.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 20 2015 21:21 GMT
#609
In before "This will separate the good Alistar players from the great Alistar players"
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
January 20 2015 21:24 GMT
#610
Well that actually is a buff? to Alistar I think. Think about how many times you randomly pulv the ground where you stand without casting the W. It'll almost never happen now if you aim correctly.

If the range went up with the headbutt I'm totally okay with this.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 20 2015 21:25 GMT
#611
thats only ever happened to me after i was learning it with packet loss. not having smartcast on makes it significantly easier and more reliable that smartcast.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 20 2015 21:48 GMT
#612
Could you head butt through minions before? I thought you stopped if you collided with a minion? If you can travel through them now, that seems like a huge buff.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 22:01:57
January 20 2015 21:55 GMT
#613
yeah you could headbutt over walls and through minions or champs, everything but azir wall. the only buff part of this is that you can clear a minion wave with headbutt potentially. and it probably makes jungling easier if it no longer knocks people over walls. but it also screws with a lot of what already is done with headbutt for the sake of "counterplay" (aka mobility champions getting more advantage). even though you could flash headbutt as it was.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 22:06:17
January 20 2015 21:59 GMT
#614
On January 21 2015 05:51 739 wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/120-pbe-update.html

LOL. Alistar headbutt is a skillshot now.


Fuck Yes

On January 21 2015 06:48 Terranasaur wrote:
Could you head butt through minions before? I thought you stopped if you collided with a minion? If you can travel through them now, that seems like a huge buff.


Headbutt was always a targeted dash, Like Maokai W but it doesn't make you intangible and doesn't follow someone if they flash/dash (so you could actually avoid the damage and knockback by flashing it).

This will mean that you have less of a problem doing a WQ combo. Since you have to press Q very quickly after you W for the most part the combo means you press Q right after you press W. If, for some reason (enemy is just out of range, or your mouse isn't quite on them) the W fails then you just Pulverize the ground and look like a dope. Because its a skillshot you don't have to worry about that, just being in general range. This extends the range of your WQ combo just a tad bit(since you no longer need a target in 650 range in order to execute)

Also nice is the collision knockback. It means you can knock minions away from a tower to forcible swap aggro and generally increases the amount of non-WQ combo CC you can do. (for instance if you Flash-Q into an enemy team then W. You can spread the entire team out, separating them all rather than just a single target)
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
January 20 2015 22:15 GMT
#615
On January 21 2015 06:59 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 05:51 739 wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/01/120-pbe-update.html

LOL. Alistar headbutt is a skillshot now.


Fuck Yes

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 06:48 Terranasaur wrote:
Could you head butt through minions before? I thought you stopped if you collided with a minion? If you can travel through them now, that seems like a huge buff.


Headbutt was always a targeted dash, Like Maokai W but it doesn't make you intangible and doesn't follow someone if they flash/dash (so you could actually avoid the damage and knockback by flashing it).

This will mean that you have less of a problem doing a WQ combo. Since you have to press Q very quickly after you W for the most part the combo means you press Q right after you press W. If, for some reason (enemy is just out of range, or your mouse isn't quite on them) the W fails then you just Pulverize the ground and look like a dope. Because its a skillshot you don't have to worry about that, just being in general range. This extends the range of your WQ combo just a tad bit(since you no longer need a target in 650 range in order to execute)

Also nice is the collision knockback. It means you can knock minions away from a tower to forcible swap aggro and generally increases the amount of non-WQ combo CC you can do. (for instance if you Flash-Q into an enemy team then W. You can spread the entire team out, separating them all rather than just a single target)


When you put it like that, the combo kind of seems a tad better than Malph ult for initiation. You could really clear a lane for assassins/ backline divers.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 22:20:23
January 20 2015 22:20 GMT
#616
It is significantly more unreliable for locking down a single target though. since you can no longer control whether it hits or not, or the exact direction unless you pulverize.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 20 2015 22:21 GMT
#617
On January 21 2015 03:54 Fusilero wrote:
Riot has said they like assassins, as long as it's zed. Zed is basically their "goal" if you will and they concluded zed doesn't use dfg therefore it must die.

I wonder if fizz fits into their ideal, they haven't been awfully explicit about what they want in a non-toxic riot approved assassin except being zed.

Zed is their goal? It's basically the most cancerous, unescapeable free kill assassin there is, no?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 20 2015 22:22 GMT
#618
zed is definitely the worst offender of all of the toxic assassin mechanics
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 22:24:58
January 20 2015 22:24 GMT
#619
Only thing you lost is the ability to w the backline, which is a significant problem. Single target wq, much easier, w is more like a flash in that combo, but buh-lieve me needing line of sight in order to land q means the other support just has to stand in font and the adc is untouchable, thats a significant hit to alis laning.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 20 2015 22:26 GMT
#620
On January 21 2015 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 03:54 Fusilero wrote:
Riot has said they like assassins, as long as it's zed. Zed is basically their "goal" if you will and they concluded zed doesn't use dfg therefore it must die.

I wonder if fizz fits into their ideal, they haven't been awfully explicit about what they want in a non-toxic riot approved assassin except being zed.

Zed is their goal? It's basically the most cancerous, unescapeable free kill assassin there is, no?

Ah, Zed. With your amazing plays topping many a competitive player's highlight reel, how could we not love you? All in all, Zed is one of the best examples of what we call a "healthy assassin" in League of Legends.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-51-notes#patch-champions

From the toxic mouth of the toxic horse, they like zed.
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