1. C9 (15-3)
2. TSM (15-3, C9 has the tiebreaker)
3. TL (14-4, not forever 4th)
4. WTX (13-5)
5. CLG (12-6)
6. TiP: (11-7)
7. GRV (9-9)
8. - CST (7-11)
9. - DIG (5-13)
10. - T8 (1-17)
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
1. C9 (15-3) 2. TSM (15-3, C9 has the tiebreaker) 3. TL (14-4, not forever 4th) 4. WTX (13-5) 5. CLG (12-6) 6. TiP: (11-7) 7. GRV (9-9) 8. - CST (7-11) 9. - DIG (5-13) 10. - T8 (1-17) | ||
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
2-9.- Don't care. 10.- Team Liquid, rooting for that. | ||
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rvsts
United States1 Post
On January 16 2015 05:30 Kinie wrote: Personally speaking, this is how I feel the teams will rank at the end of the season, and their potential records: 1. C9 (15-3) 2. TSM (15-3, C9 has the tiebreaker) 3. TL (14-4, not forever 4th) 4. WTX (13-5) 5. CLG (12-6) 6. TiP: (11-7) 7. GRV (9-9) 8. - CST (7-11) 9. - DIG (5-13) 10. - T8 (1-17) For the record, whenever you do exercises like this you need to make sure that the number of wins is possible. Your records have 102 wins in a League that only plays 90 games a split. 1. C9 2. TL 3. TSM 4. CLG 5. TiP 6. GRV 7. Dig 8. WFX 9. T8 10. CST | ||
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Ruran
United States151 Posts
On January 16 2015 05:30 Kinie wrote: Personally speaking, this is how I feel the teams will rank at the end of the season, and their potential records: 1. C9 (15-3) 2. TSM (15-3, C9 has the tiebreaker) 3. TL (14-4, not forever 4th) 4. WTX (13-5) 5. CLG (12-6) 6. TiP: (11-7) 7. GRV (9-9) 8. - CST (7-11) 9. - DIG (5-13) 10. - T8 (1-17) Goodness, i've seen people put T8 at the bottom but you think they'll only get a single win? This was the challenger team that was the first seed, I think they're being heavily underestimated. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. | ||
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DNeon
Australia203 Posts
On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Shouldn't that be a good thing? That makes them the same team that's been rocking the challenger scene for most of the year, who actually contended with LMQ in the games they played against them, who got in during the promotion (not expansion) tournament and only couldn't qualify for the mid-season promotion tournament because they went up against LMQ early in their bracket. I guess it does mean no random import koreans, although they do now have Alex Ich apparently. | ||
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. | ||
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The Legendary Max
Vietnam16 Posts
On January 16 2015 12:31 DNeon wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Shouldn't that be a good thing? That makes them the same team that's been rocking the challenger scene for most of the year, who actually contended with LMQ in the games they played against them, who got in during the promotion (not expansion) tournament and only couldn't qualify for the mid-season promotion tournament because they went up against LMQ early in their bracket. I guess it does mean no random import koreans, although they do now have Alex Ich apparently. Alex-ich left T8 to form his own team after a day. Also T8 has been around for almost 2 years and just hasnt been able to get into the LCS, despite all this and being complexity, they are still weak. Looking at the lineups, they dont look very strong, they wont make it very high despite entering the LCS. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. | ||
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The Legendary Max
Vietnam16 Posts
On January 16 2015 14:16 Kinie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. Lets be real here, TSM wouldn't just let themselves roll over like a dog. Korea could not be beaten, and if you look at the stats, Samsung only lost 3 times to other teams besides there own team. (Before Finals) Not even Royal Club could get 2 wins off of Samsung White. Blaming the whole reason they lost on wildturtle is a pretty big blame. Amazing did not stand out in that Bo5 either. | ||
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DNeon
Australia203 Posts
On January 16 2015 14:12 The Legendary Max wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 12:31 DNeon wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Shouldn't that be a good thing? That makes them the same team that's been rocking the challenger scene for most of the year, who actually contended with LMQ in the games they played against them, who got in during the promotion (not expansion) tournament and only couldn't qualify for the mid-season promotion tournament because they went up against LMQ early in their bracket. I guess it does mean no random import koreans, although they do now have Alex Ich apparently. Alex-ich left T8 to form his own team after a day. Also T8 has been around for almost 2 years and just hasnt been able to get into the LCS, despite all this and being complexity, they are still weak. Looking at the lineups, they dont look very strong, they wont make it very high despite entering the LCS. Team 8's players have been around, but the team itself formed only halfway through first split of last year. They then still got enough points to qualify for the Challenger playoffs, but because they'd gotten fewer points they were seeded fairly low and went up against LMQ early. | ||
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
2 - Gravity 3 - TL 4 - TSM 5 - Dig 6 - WFX 7 - TIP 8 - CLG 9 - T8 10 - Coast | ||
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Project Yasuo
United States153 Posts
On January 16 2015 14:20 The Legendary Max wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 14:16 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. Lets be real here, TSM wouldn't just let themselves roll over like a dog. Korea could not be beaten, and if you look at the stats, Samsung only lost 3 times to other teams besides there own team. (Before Finals) Not even Royal Club could get 2 wins off of Samsung White. Blaming the whole reason they lost on wildturtle is a pretty big blame. Amazing did not stand out in that Bo5 either. Yea, the two Samsungs were indubitably the best teams in the world at that point. I honestly think Blue would have beat Royal Club if the two ever played at that point. The only team that really didn't get massacred by the Samsungs were Royal Club and Cloud 9 tbh. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 16 2015 14:20 The Legendary Max wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 14:16 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. Lets be real here, TSM wouldn't just let themselves roll over like a dog. Korea could not be beaten, and if you look at the stats, Samsung only lost 3 times to other teams besides there own team. (Before Finals) Not even Royal Club could get 2 wins off of Samsung White. Blaming the whole reason they lost on wildturtle is a pretty big blame. Amazing did not stand out in that Bo5 either. Holy shit lol, TSM losing to Samsung White had literally nothing to do with WildTurtle. | ||
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The Legendary Max
Vietnam16 Posts
On January 17 2015 05:03 LimpingGoat wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2015 14:20 The Legendary Max wrote: On January 16 2015 14:16 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. Lets be real here, TSM wouldn't just let themselves roll over like a dog. Korea could not be beaten, and if you look at the stats, Samsung only lost 3 times to other teams besides there own team. (Before Finals) Not even Royal Club could get 2 wins off of Samsung White. Blaming the whole reason they lost on wildturtle is a pretty big blame. Amazing did not stand out in that Bo5 either. Holy shit lol, TSM losing to Samsung White had literally nothing to do with WildTurtle. My argument is so that WildTurtle isnt the one being blamed. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 17 2015 06:11 The Legendary Max wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 05:03 LimpingGoat wrote: On January 16 2015 14:20 The Legendary Max wrote: On January 16 2015 14:16 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 14:09 F1rstAssau1t wrote: On January 16 2015 12:09 Kinie wrote: On January 16 2015 06:19 ParadeofMadness wrote: Why is everyone so eager to put Curse botlane as undisputably the best? lol, none of you have seen them play yet, they are new together and the language barrier. Honestly, the facts make it hard to put them over C9 or CLG botlane; regardless if they are TL I'm rating old Curse (now TL) higher because of three main reasons: 1. The core of the team is still pretty strong (case in point, they were 1 win away from going to Worlds last year). 2. By in large, most are experienced players used to the rigors of scrims and stage play. 3. I still doubt TSM's bot lane duo, as Turtle's been slumping pretty hard and we've yet to see him play a game since Worlds where he was arguably the main reason they couldn't get past the Quarterfinals. CLG's bot lane is probably stronger than TL's, but I doubt the rest of CLG (ie., Link) is stronger than the top, mid, and jungler of TL. And I'm not changing the record prediction, mainly cause I'm lazy. I have T8 last because I've just not heard or seen a peep about them since the promotion tournament. Like if TSM stood anychance on the QF, come on not Turtle fault. No, but they could've at least put up a tiny bit of a fight and not roll over like a dog. The only game they won was because Samsung toyed around. Lets be real here, TSM wouldn't just let themselves roll over like a dog. Korea could not be beaten, and if you look at the stats, Samsung only lost 3 times to other teams besides there own team. (Before Finals) Not even Royal Club could get 2 wins off of Samsung White. Blaming the whole reason they lost on wildturtle is a pretty big blame. Amazing did not stand out in that Bo5 either. Holy shit lol, TSM losing to Samsung White had literally nothing to do with WildTurtle. My argument is so that WildTurtle isnt the one being blamed. Yeah I know I was replying to the person you were replying to. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
ehhhhh, not sure if want. i know baeme is in china but i wonder if this guy could be had instead. | ||
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Darigaz(L)
United States106 Posts
Alex-ich left T8 to form his own team after a day. Also T8 has been around for almost 2 years and just hasnt been able to get into the LCS, despite all this and being complexity, they are still weak. Looking at the lineups, they dont look very strong, they wont make it very high despite entering the LCS. You couldn't be more wrong. Alex Ich didn't leave T8, he is a sub for T8 and starting for Brawl. So he is still with T8, and never joined as a starter, always a sub. Also T8 hasn't been competing for 2 years, and the time they didn't make the LCS is because they went 1-2 vs LMQ, which is no easy task. I agree with a few people here... T8 is being grossly underestimated. I think largely because they have a smaller fan base and lesser known players. People just haven't been watching them closely and are writing them off. | ||
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