EPTNA LCS Spring 2015 Predictions - Page 12
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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Project Yasuo
United States153 Posts
On January 20 2015 11:30 Luepert wrote: As to trying to predict summer, it's actually impossible because the 10th place team is automatically eliminated and a new team joins so we don't even know the field. That sounds like a job for Paul the Octopus  . | ||
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Deressi
United States9 Posts
2) Team Solomid - They've always made the finals, and they will continue to do so. I think Dyrus is a solid laner and Bjergsen is still a carry god. Turtle and Lustboy are an okay bot lane, and Santorin just needs time to mesh with the team. They'll have a pretty rocky start and but pick it up. 3) Team Liquid - Ah, the curse will be broken this split. Quas has shown he's a solid top laner with lots of flexibility. Dominate is easily the 2nd best jungler and has the ability to snowball his lanes hard. He does suffer from some inconsistencies, but I think he'll overcome them this split. FeniX is unproven and I think other mids will dumpster him, considering he came from top lane. Piglet and Xpecial are going to be one of the best bot lanes in NA, if they synergize well. 4) Counter Logic Gaming - Honestly, CLG will only do this well due to lack of competition. They have great carries in ZionSpartan and Doublelift. They just need to put Xmithie on Jarvan or Pantheon and let him snowball them. Aphromoo is a top 3 support, so he'll do just fine. Link is someone to keep an eye on as he had a rocky performance around the end of Summer 2014. However, he shouldn't have to worry about putting the carry pants on while Zion and DL are around. 5) Gravity Gaming - Hauntzer is solid. People can argue that he'll get smashed by the likes of Zion, Gamsu, Balls, etc. but he's just not a bad player. He just needs to not die and help his team out. Saintvicious was at one point, one of the best junglers in the world. He is innovative and skilled. He should easily get his lanes rolling and support the team. Keane, like his jungler, is innovative as well. His play is outstanding, especially Orianna. I expect great things from them. Cop and Bunny are a solid lane but will have trouble against other bot lanes, especially CLG, TL, and possibly TSM. 6) Team Impulse - Impact is a great top laner and can play the meta really well. He suffers from a lack of carry pants in his dresser however. He'll be a solid player though. Rush is an unknown, but I've seen VODs of him showing off his incredible mechanics, but we'll have to see if his play transitions well into competitive. XiaoWeiXiao is definitely the 2nd best mid in NA. He has crazy farming capabilities and will really be the star of TiP. Wizfujiin and Adrian are the weak links of this team. They are easily one of the worst, if not the worst bot lanes in the LCS. 7) Winterfox - I dislike everything about this team. Avalon is an unproven top laner with zero competitive experience. To top it off, he's Helios' brother. But, I doubt that affected his chances to get on this team. Helios is washed up and honestly not that good anymore. He has acceptable vision control and decision making, however. Pobelter is mechanically, a god. But, he's rather inconsistent and has been overrated this off season. He'll need to tighten up his play if WTX wants to place higher. Altec is a great player and is honestly being held back by his team. I wish he'd have joined TiP, they would definitely have a shot at 5th or 4th with him. Imagine is a solo queue support player is with no competitive experience. But from what other people have told me, be should be an okay player. 8) Team Dignitas - Gamsu deserves better. He spent most of his time sitting on Blue's bench, but he deserved a starting spot on another team. He and Shipthur will be the main carries of this team, however Shipthur suffers from very passive play. Crumbzz is an okay jungler. He has this thing where looks great for a while and then just sucks. He just stops being good. He does it so often and its honestly been the downfall of Dignitas. Core and Kiwikid are terrible. Core wasn't good in Korea, and he won't be good in NA. Kiwikid is the worst support in NA. 9) Team Coast - Cris's play is questionable. He dies in dumb spots and is honestly not that strong. He does have pretty strong mechanics though. Impaler is the star of this team. He is the best Rengar is the west and a rising star and has nothing to worry about if Coast gets relegated. Jesiz has a bad champion pool and a terrible laning phase. I don't understand why you would pick this guy up when you can try for Yusui. MashMe and Sheep are a very good bot lane. Mash is underrated and Sheep showed lots of potential on XDG. 10) Team 8 - Despite trashing on Coast and Gravity in challenger, Team 8 ended up weaker than both of them. Those teams got major improvements, T8 stayed the same. Calitrololz is impressive. He is flexible and mechanically strong. PoirpoisePops is the worst jungler in the NALCS, sadly. But its not due to being bad, just due to a lack of being mundane and average. He has nothing special about him. Slooshi just not up to par with other mid laners. Like Porpoise, he has nothing special about him. Maple is mechanically strong and a great AD Carry, but just has a lot of competition right now. Dodo8 is just a support. This team suffers from being terribly boring and mundane in every position but Top Lane. (Just to remind everyone, this is my opinion, and you have the right to disagree, but be reasonable.) | ||
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v3lv3t
United States48 Posts
1.15 - Cloud 9 2.67 - Liquid 2.89 - TSM 4.98 - Winterfox 5.33 - CLG 5.70 - Impulse 6.41 - Gravity 8.08 - Dignitas 8.58 - Coast 9.21 - Team 8 Google Docs with crappy graph: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TpqTMnMyZD6KmsFrRQt9rSnCcRNZ6PuxSdgJffV6ILg/edit?usp=sharing | ||
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The Legendary Max
Vietnam16 Posts
On January 20 2015 15:55 Deressi wrote: 6) Team Impulse - Impact is a great top laner and can play the meta really well. He suffers from a lack of carry pants in his dresser however. He'll be a solid player though. Rush is an unknown, but I've seen VODs of him showing off his incredible mechanics, but we'll have to see if his play transitions well into competitive. XiaoWeiXiao is definitely the 2nd best mid in NA. He has crazy farming capabilities and will really be the star of TiP. Wizfujiin and Adrian are the weak links of this team. They are easily one of the worst, if not the worst bot lanes in the LCS. 7) Winterfox - I dislike everything about this team. Avalon is an unproven top laner with zero competitive experience. To top it off, he's Helios' brother. But, I doubt that affected his chances to get on this team. Helios is washed up and honestly not that good anymore. He has acceptable vision control and decision making, however. Pobelter is mechanically, a god. But, he's rather inconsistent and has been overrated this off season. He'll need to tighten up his play if WTX wants to place higher. Altec is a great player and is honestly being held back by his team. I wish he'd have joined TiP, they would definitely have a shot at 5th or 4th with him. Imagine is a solo queue support player is with no competitive experience. But from what other people have told me, be should be an okay player. (Just to remind everyone, this is my opinion, and you have the right to disagree, but be reasonable.) Your opinion is understandable, but you are seriously underestimating Apollo (Wizfujin). He showed for a week or 2 last year that he can be a top tier marksman, he can posistion well in teamfights, and he can kill people. I honestly think at Coast he was held back by his support (Daydreamin) Yes, the bot lane of Team Impulse is weak, but i would not rate it the worst bot lane. DiG and Winterfox can compete to be the worst bot lane, but not Impulse, there bot lane should only be just below average in the North American Scene. Also Winterfox is a team that is ready to throw suprises at everybody. You shouldnt base what you see from last year for this year. Pobelter will show up this year, not from SoloQ results, but from what he showed towards the end of the Summer Split, he has potential, and after bootcamping in Korea i am very sure he will be able to amaze people. Helios will have incrediable synergy with Top lane and Bot lane, he dosnt even need to speak english to talk to both lanes. Altec will be able to carry this year, he wont be held back, this team will produce results, and Imagine will just have to catch up, im just hoping this guy dosnt hold back altec. | ||
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ms2300
11 Posts
I honestly think at Coast he was held back by his support (Daydreamin) True, Daydreamin was a mediocre at best support but the bigger problem was the way the team was built. Zion and Shiphtur took all the side lane farm and Daydreamin tunneled onto non-peel supports like Blitz and Leona. The simple fact was that Wiz had absolutely no peel and couldn't be an effective member of the team because of it. To further this point, when Coast was playing in challenger he was actually really good because the teams could not effectively dive him/ they didn't have the coordination. Also Winterfox is a team that is ready to throw suprises at everybody. They certainly already have with their pickups in Korea... I had them as the #4 easy when I thought they would pick up a safe top laner during the korean exodus, but they had to go with Avalon. Imagine will be fine, I have no problems with that pickup, but I am incredibly confused as to why with all that talent available, they had to go with Helios's D5 brother. They guy has tried and failed multiple times to go pro; it already seems like nepotism at it's finest, and this is before the season even starts. | ||
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DorianNtheCloud
United States1 Post
2 - Team Liquid 3 - Team SoloMid 4 - Counter Logic Gaming 5 - Gravity 6 - Team Impulse 7 - Winterfox 8 - Team Dignitas 9 - Team Coast 10 -Team 8 | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
1 & 2: C9 & TSM respectively; no brainer. Purely personal preference that puts C9 ahead of TSM. Everyone else will be a trainwreck in comparison I expect, with varying degrees of wreckage. 3 & 4: TL & CLG should be able to hold themselves together long enough to secure their placements respectively. 5: Gravity Gaming I guess? Least of the remaining evils I guess. (Out of their 5 players I only dislike 1, and while I am ambivalent about 3, I actually recognize all the names listed! woo~) 6: XWX to carry TiP into dubious quasi-relevancy. ---This is the 菜鸟互啄 line--- 7: Winterfox. I like their name. Altec managed to leave a (positive) impression on me. That's it, really. Like: 1 Ambivalence: 2 Dislike: 0 WhoTheHeckIsThis: 2 8) Team Dignitas' botlane too heavy; midlane too passive. (Shiptur is a poor man's XWX, imo) Like: 0 Ambivalence: 2 Dislike: 2 WhoTheHeckIsThis: 1 9) Team Coast's lineup doesn't look impressive, regardless of what position I'm looking at it from. Ambivalence (of the I don't care kind): 5 10) Team 8 is not C9, nor are they LMQ. Bottom-feeder. | ||
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Pieftw247
United States6 Posts
2: Tl 3: TSM 4: Gravity 5: WFX 6: CLG 7:Impulse 8:Dig 9: Coast 10: t8 | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 21 2015 09:01 The Legendary Max wrote: Your opinion is understandable, but you are seriously underestimating Apollo (Wizfujin). He showed for a week or 2 last year that he can be a top tier marksman, he can posistion well in teamfights, and he can kill people. I honestly think at Coast he was held back by his support (Daydreamin) Yes, the bot lane of Team Impulse is weak, but i would not rate it the worst bot lane. DiG and Winterfox can compete to be the worst bot lane, but not Impulse, there bot lane should only be just below average in the North American Scene. Also Winterfox is a team that is ready to throw suprises at everybody. You shouldnt base what you see from last year for this year. Pobelter will show up this year, not from SoloQ results, but from what he showed towards the end of the Summer Split, he has potential, and after bootcamping in Korea i am very sure he will be able to amaze people. Helios will have incrediable synergy with Top lane and Bot lane, he dosnt even need to speak english to talk to both lanes. Altec will be able to carry this year, he wont be held back, this team will produce results, and Imagine will just have to catch up, im just hoping this guy dosnt hold back altec. Yeah, Wizfujin is actually pretty good. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 25 2015 06:25 LimpingGoat wrote: Just thought I would return to this thread and slap my cock on the metaphorical table. after 1 game? take the lady home before you drop your pants, even if she DID order the lobster. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 25 2015 06:50 Slusher wrote: after 1 game? take the lady home before you drop your pants, even if she DID order the lobster. I get that it was 1 game, but what's the fun in predicting if you don't get to brag about being right. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On January 25 2015 06:25 LimpingGoat wrote: Just thought I would return to this thread and slap my cock on the metaphorical table. No complaining then if it gets cut off by the knife of reality by the end of the split :D | ||
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Project Yasuo
United States153 Posts
On January 25 2015 06:25 LimpingGoat wrote: Just thought I would return to this thread and slap my cock on the metaphorical table. TSM played way better than I thought it would with Santorin, but C9 was also nowhere near proper LCS form. I'm excited to see future matches between these two. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 25 2015 08:15 Slaughter wrote: No complaining then if it gets cut off by the knife of reality by the end of the split :D I don't mind at all, for me if I am wrong I deserve to be taunted. But that's why I try hard to not be wrong right  By the way who called it on Santorin being good, his engages that game were really nice, seems like he is also able to sort of direct dyrus in teamfights to let turtle and bjerg really do work. | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 25 2015 10:50 Project Yasuo wrote: TSM played way better than I thought it would with Santorin, but C9 was also nowhere near proper LCS form. I'm excited to see future matches between these two. Unfortunately we'll only get one more game between the two before playoffs. | ||
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DNeon
Australia203 Posts
On January 25 2015 10:50 Project Yasuo wrote: TSM played way better than I thought it would with Santorin, but C9 was also nowhere near proper LCS form. I'm excited to see future matches between these two. I still can't believe how much that game would have changed had C9 picked Jarvan. LOWER LEVEL NA TEAMS PICKED J4 AWAY BECAUSE THE ENEMY PICKED GNAR! It's been standard practice, the combo is just so good. That said, without the J4 there, TSM played that brilliantly. I'm pretty sure I will be eating my words about the strategic depth of each team in the league very soon. | ||
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NotMeEver
United States100 Posts
2. C9 (because C9) 3. TSM (because TSM) 4. TIP 5. Gravity 6. CLG 7. Winterfox 8. Coast 9. T8 10. DIG (sorry Dignitas) | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On January 26 2015 01:27 DNeon wrote: I still can't believe how much that game would have changed had C9 picked Jarvan. LOWER LEVEL NA TEAMS PICKED J4 AWAY BECAUSE THE ENEMY PICKED GNAR! It's been standard practice, the combo is just so good. That said, without the J4 there, TSM played that brilliantly. I'm pretty sure I will be eating my words about the strategic depth of each team in the league very soon. I've seen this opinion a lot on reddit. Do you think meteos and cloud 9 didn't realize j4 was unbanned, or that meteos cannot play j4? I guarantee you j4 was considered during their pick/ban and for some reason they decided it wasn't what they needed or wanted. I think probably meteos felt they needed more AP damage, and tsm already had disengage, so they were going for a pick comp with thresh,Elise. | ||
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