NA LCS Spring 2015 Predictions - Page 13

On January 25 2015 06:25 LimpingGoat wrote:
Just thought I would return to this thread and slap my cock on the metaphorical table.

On January 26 2015 10:30 wei2coolman wrote:

lol, how salty are you now? cuz your metaphorical cock is small as fuck, and this metaphorical table is too big for it.
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On January 26 2015 10:53 LimpingGoat wrote:
Alright fair enough, I still think my predictions will hold up as we get to playoffs, but can we talk about how terrible Bo1's are? Is there anyone here that is stupid enough to actually think that C9 is the worst team in NA LCS and that every team besides C9 and TL are about even in strength?

On January 26 2015 10:53 LimpingGoat wrote:
Alright fair enough, I still think my predictions will hold up as we get to playoffs, but can we talk about how terrible Bo1's are? Is there anyone here that is stupid enough to actually think that C9 is the worst team in NA LCS and that every team besides C9 and TL are about even in strength?

On February 01 2015 12:30 DNeon wrote:
Preliminary predictions after the first 2 weeks of LCS, will update after tomorrow's games:

1. C9 - Shaky first week to say the least, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to C9 that the bottom of the table teams are a little better than before (well, some are...). After today's game, and more importantly today's pick/ban phase, I'm confident in keeping them on top again.

2. TL - Loss today mostly from a lack of adaptation in the pick/ban phase. They just couldn't do anything against that team comp with their picks. That said they still played well in the game to at the very least attempt to bring the game back, rotating Piglet around the map to get away and gather some farm, but if they don't pick up that pick/ban phase they'll be unlikely to get wins against the top 4.

3. CLG - Some good mechanical play being shown off, decent strategy and picks, perhaps some over aggression but losing to an on fire TL last week is the only thing keeping them from a 3-0 start. CLG v TSM match will decide much of the fate of 2-4 for me.

4. TSM - I'm still solid that they don't have the strategic depth to come back from a losing game. T8 crushing them with some good individual play last week showed their hand, and while Santorin is better pick up than I gave him credit for, the jungle still isn't as solid as it needs to be to contend. Again though, depending how they go against a stronger team in CLG tomorrow, I'll be looking to move them further up, but I was wrong to be putting them below here before.

5. T8 - Solid individual skill has started to show through here, and aside from some cockiness by Calitrlolz in the mid game their strategic play was fairly good. They've picked their pick/ban phase up since gifting CLG everything they wanted, and managed to do well even when losing a ban and being forced to let picks through to CST. This is definitely subject to change depending on their match vs TiP tomorrow.

6. TiP - I overestimated the impact of language barriers and communication on this team (no pun, impact is a word that can be used in its own right). That said, they're still very mediocre. Rush seems a mechanically good player but lacking presence, their bot lane is mediocre at best, and Impact seems (expectedly to me) underwhelming. This is all subject to change with the game against T8 tomorrow, and I might end up eating my words.

7. GRV - I'll start things out by saying that I believe they played today's game well. They played conservatively because there was no way they could lose by doing so. Even their back timing with waves pushing meant that they had better items for the upcoming 5th dragon to ensure victory there. That said their shotcalling is still slow compared to their CA days and that indicates trouble with the higher caliber of player they're up against. I'm not convinced with giving them too much credit for defeating a broken C9 in first week, but we'll see how they progress. I still think they have potential to improve but right now they're a slow starter.

8. WFX - I wish they could be further up, but POB remains somewhat unreliable, Gleeb (as much as I love and respect the guy) isn't of the same caliber as Krepo, and I don't know if Altec has adapted to that. Helios and Avalon are mediocre, and the team seems to struggle when they're not just making plays. If they become more consistent then they have the potential to be great, but relying on play making just isn't sound strategy.

9. CST - Impaler is a solid jungler and can carry from that position, but being just "meh" everywhere else is hard to look past. Jesiz can be a good player and a play maker against the worse NA midlaners, but the better ones are still...well, better. If they can stop being being CST and start calling shots correctly then they stand a chance to be a solid middle of the pack contender, but I can't guarantee that, and having a contender for both the worst bot lane in the LCS and worst toplaner in the LCS is going to make things a struggle.

10. DiG - 2 biggest playmakers missing, Shiphtur doesn't make plays from behind and without solid lanes Crumbzz's support style jungling doesn't work. Their team comp today tells me they have much to improve on when it comes to the pick/ban phase. Should be 0-3 but CST did CST things against them.

For reference, my previous rankings were:
1. C9 - 2. TL - 3. GRV - 4. CLG - 5. WFX - 6. TSM - 7. T8 - 8. CST - 9. DiG - 10. TiP

Some over the top rankings based on faith in strategic improvements to certain teams, I'm very disappointed by the lack of improvement to many bottom-mid tier teams in the off season.

If anyone's wondering why I'm doing this in the middle of this week's games it's because it's been a lazy Sunday.

On January 12 2015 01:49 LimpingGoat wrote:
1. TSM - extremely stacked roster in terms of individual talent, was the case last year as well but with the addition of Santorin who has proven to be a soloq god thus far, and reports of him being near Meteos level in scrims, I would be very surprised if TSM wasn't as strong as last year, when they were the best team in NA.

2. C9 - Solid roster, as always. Hai was their biggest liability in S4 Summer Split, perhaps if he is able to be more stable as a player they will be able to beat out TSM.

3. Team Liquid - Without LMQ here to take 3rd place, Curse (Now Team Liquid), automatically ranks up in my book. A few notes though, I think they have gotten a major downgrade in the mid lane, and I think Piglet is a bit overhyped. Biggest strengths have to be the stability of the rest of the roster. Xpecial is a great support capable of carry-level playmaking. Quas is in contention for best Top laner in the entire region, and rarely is seen exploited by other teams.

4. TiP - Hard to say, because this is essentially a new roster. Looks like they will have strong lanes. I put them here because of reports of their scrim performances.

5. CLG - I think this is the team with the most (Potential) to move up in the actual rankings. From what I understand the team had major personal and communication problems, particularly with the upper half of the map. Link is not as bad as people treat him, Doublelift is in contention for the best ADC in NA still, I believe. Aphromoo is at the very least a great laner. The additions of a top laner who excels in communication and a jungler that Link is able to get along with and talk to, should help them at least not get relegated, but the X factor for this team is how high can they go. My safe bet is 5th place, but I would frankly not be surprised if they soared higher.

6. Team Winterfox - Cool name, in this team importing random Koreans shouldn't be as bad as in other teams since Pobelter and Helios speak Korean (not sure about Altec). ADC has shown ability to come up huge in LCS games, Mid laner is solid enough. Sort of a We'll See team, along with the rest of these bottom 5.

7. Gravity - Curse Academy was a solid lineup, but none of the players stand out as particularly good. I wouldn't bet on any of them to be Top 3 in their position in the Spring Split, but because they appear to be somewhat solid I put them on top of the other teams I expect to have issues.

8. Dignitas - This roster is going to have communication issues, simple as that. Also Kiwikid.

9. Coast - Despite their European imports beating up on shitters in Challenger League, Jesiz and Impaler are not suddenly gods. Good enough that they should beat out Team 8 and avoid auto relegation, but not good enough to beat out teams with actual talent in them.

10. Team 8 - I'm sorry if you're a team 8 fan, but literally the only player on this team that is any good is Calitrolz, and I just don't buy it that he is going to solocarry 4 mediocre like, masters players.

On February 01 2015 15:43 LimpingGoat wrote:


I look forward to seeing TSM gradually move up your rankings as you realize that they literally just won the most recent LCS split and how retarded it is to predict that they would magically fall down to 6th place.

On February 02 2015 04:19 Kyo Yuy wrote:

We get it, you think TSM is the best team in the world and would've 3-0ed Samsung White if not for nerves, and we know you think Bjergsen can kill Faker 1v1 blindfolded using AP Poppy.

I personally don't see a reason to change predictions though. I feel it defeats the point of calling them entire split predictions to change them week after week, plus teams can have wildly fluctuating results and it'll be hard to tell what happens until late in the season.