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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 30 2014 08:41 Scip wrote: Capitalizing Every Single Word Is A Horrible Crime Against Humanity Don't Do It Kids Does this imply that the Germans are on the boundary to crime against humanity? | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:33 NeoIllusions wrote: I can see Curse top 2 in NA LCS come spring How much of a leap is that for them? They pick up a potential world best adc and only go up two spots in NA LCS? I still think TSM will place higher than Curse. Just because you have a world class player doesn't mean your team knows what to do with it. Quoting myself on this one. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:28 Parnage wrote: All you guys talking ill of Piglet in NA don't seem to realize that unless he pulls a Calm and turns into badlet he's still going to crap on the majority of the NA lanes he faces. It's also pretty damn belittling to say he wasn't a big deal because others on his team did well. Last I check it's still a team game, and for all the power of Faker and Bengi at the time I don't recall anyone speaking ill of SKT's botlane either. Funny how the moment he goes NA he's washed up? Even if he is(pro tip: he ain't) Piglet is going to wreck kids in the LCS because he's just plane better then they are. Going to enjoy quoting some of these posts in the future. Thanks for the laughs. Having said all of this, I expect his team to place fourth just to spite me. Talk ill of Piglet? lol, no one really has. Everyone is just trying to calm down the absurd hype behind him. On December 30 2014 09:33 NeoIllusions wrote: I can see Curse top 2 in NA LCS come spring only real competition in NA is TSM and C9 for Curse. CLG gunna do CLG thing and disappoint. God knows what's happening with LMQ. TSM doesn't look much different from before, maybe a little worse. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
I've queued into it 5 times in a row when playing rumble and I've won 4/5. It seems like rumble wins levels 1-7ish but even though you win the first all-in with ulti, riven's ulti comes up significantly faster and you have to play like a pussy for a long time until it's back again =/ | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: That's like Doublelift diehard fanboys proclaiming him the best adc in NA in 2015. Noone doubts that Piglet still has it, he just won't play on his 2013 level at all most likely. Unless he's CptJack. Fortunately, he doesn't need to play to his 2013 level to be the best ADC in NA. Even now, there is no AD in NA who plays close to the level Piglet did in 2013. EDIT: Also, comparing Score and Piglet is pretty amusing because 2013 KT played way more around Score than SKT played around Piglet (allowed him to do shit like burn Flash aggressively in fights to get kills and look good doing it, even though on any other team it would have been super questionable). SKT was the better team, but KT did WAY more to make Score look good than SKT did for Piglet. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: I'm going to get cursed, flamed and jinxed, but best Faker is when Bengi is at best. not really true. faker was still hard carrying that team with all the opposing pressure focused on him. it's just that they can't be aggressive ganking team without bengi playing well mechanically | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 30 2014 10:25 oneofthem wrote: not really true. faker was still hard carrying that team with all the opposing pressure focused on him. it's just that they can't be aggressive ganking team without bengi playing well mechanically Seriously. People who don't think Faker was crazy amazing in 2014 are fooling themselves. I would give him #1 player of 2014 if he didn't seem pretty off his game during the SSW games to get to worlds. He was the #1 player during Winter by a significant margin, and hard carried SKT to wins during every other season. He did these insanely memorable things on Orianna, along with being the lynchpin of the only team to take a game off Najin Shield during the qualifier. He had 1 "bad" series and I am pretty sure it was because he was overaggressive due to desperation, because his team was getting shat on the other 4 positions every game. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:22 krndandaman wrote: his skirmishing and teamfighting was good but his main talent was splitpushing (which kinda goes in line with skirmishing). he was exceptionally good at applying pressure as a splitting adc and safely regrouping with his team. and when the situation came to it, he was very good at 1v1ing the opponent split pusher. he suffered a bit when adc's didn't split push as much. well yea his dueling and whatnot ability made him suitable for the splitpush meta. i don't think splitpushing is a talent though, it's more of a team level strategy. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:28 Parnage wrote: All you guys talking ill of Piglet in NA don't seem to realize that unless he pulls a Calm and turns into badlet he's still going to crap on the majority of the NA lanes he faces. It's also pretty damn belittling to say he wasn't a big deal because others on his team did well. Last I check it's still a team game, and for all the power of Faker and Bengi at the time I don't recall anyone speaking ill of SKT's botlane either. Funny how the moment he goes NA he's washed up? Even if he is(pro tip: he ain't) Piglet is going to wreck kids in the LCS because he's just plane better then they are. Going to enjoy quoting some of these posts in the future. Thanks for the laughs. Having said all of this, I expect his team to place fourth just to spite me. well he does have very high top end performance. people use soloqueue to judge players probably will not place piglet too highly, but even in soloqueue he'll have these 20-3 games, and i think that is a better representation of his carrying capacity. he just always goes for the aggressive play in lane and not very good at farming under pressure. if they can play an aggression lane and basically outduel the opposite number, they'll be fine. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
In all seriousness, I haven't seen much hype for Piglet being god tier but then again he doesn't have to. It's NA. I hate saying it but you only have to be better then NA duders which for him is clearly going to not be a problem. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 30 2014 10:00 Zdrastochye wrote: How much of a leap is that for them? They pick up a potential world best adc and only go up two spots in NA LCS? I still think TSM will place higher than Curse. For team which hadn't seen place higher than fourth since 2012? That's huge leap if you ask me. On December 30 2014 10:25 oneofthem wrote: not really true. faker was still hard carrying that team with all the opposing pressure focused on him. it's just that they can't be aggressive ganking team without bengi playing well mechanically That's why i say "best Faker". As ultimate T1 fanboy for soon-to-be a decade, i don't wanna see my best player dying for team sins, i want him to blossom in the garden. On December 30 2014 10:25 TheYango wrote: Fortunately, he doesn't need to play to his 2013 level to be the best ADC in NA. Even now, there is no AD in NA who plays close to the level Piglet did in 2013. EDIT: Also, comparing Score and Piglet is pretty amusing because 2013 KT played way more around Score than SKT played around Piglet (allowed him to do shit like burn Flash aggressively in fights to get kills and look good doing it, even though on any other team it would have been super questionable). SKT was the better team, but KT did WAY more to make Score look good than SKT did for Piglet. Idk, i like Piglet but unless last 2 seasons of OGN/NLB were a temporary slump, i don't see him being UNDISPUTABLE top-1 NA. Unless, of course, everyone randomly starts playing worse than they were before or Caitlyn becomes top-1 pick again. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
#nobias | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On December 30 2014 11:20 Mensol wrote: Doublelift is the best period #nobias Everyone Else Is Trash. | ||
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kongoline
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On December 30 2014 11:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: For team which hadn't seen place higher than fourth since 2012? That's huge leap if you ask me. They were right behind TSM and LMQ. Former has replaced their jungler with some dude and second doesn't exist. They likely could contest top2 with cop. I'd argue that Quas top, IWD jungle and Xpecial supp were more important upgrades. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 30 2014 11:42 krndandaman wrote: doublelift is the perfect example for why splitpushing is a talent. he has the mechanics to duel nearly anyone but he was awful for the longest time at knowing when to split and when to group. uzi is another (aside from piglet) example of exemplary split pushing. he knows when he can push/farm and when to group with the team. rekkles is another adc who had trouble knowing when to group/split. both of them improved at it though. well if it is a talent then it's only in short supply on already dysfunctional western teams. i'd say it's a team level command thing | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 30 2014 10:15 Lmui wrote: How does the Riven - Rumble matchup go? I've queued into it 5 times in a row when playing rumble and I've won 4/5. It seems like rumble wins levels 1-7ish but even though you win the first all-in with ulti, riven's ulti comes up significantly faster and you have to play like a pussy for a long time until it's back again =/ I am PRETTY SURE Riven wins the match up easily. Riven has a lot of perks that give Rumble headaches, such as how her Q will rotate Rumble (and consequently the Flamespitter). Then there is the issue of mobility (getting out of Equalizers) and shields vs DoT. | ||
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