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this happens so often, but nothing cracks me up more than the time Vulcan denied bloodwater getting kicked off the team when it was leaked, and they then got Travis to write a story for them about how bloodwater was not getting kicked off the team, only for him to get kicked off a week later.
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I'd love to see some Piglet Vayne action again. I hate that champ in solo queue but boy does she look good when played by pros.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone.
piglet excelled in team fight and skirmishing positioning. he was able to do a lot of damage given the space the team created for him. this, as we found out later, depended on him not tilting and working with his support. he's not that good in lane and was pretty out of his comfort zone once the meta shifted as well.
if you've ever watched his solo queues he just goes on massive tilting sprees and throw games. i think the potential is there but there's also some work needed to get him to work within a team.
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so... i played a game and tried to flash over an ahri charm. i flashed it, but I guess it still hit me after the flash because who knows, the projectile didnt touch me but whatever and i ended up walking toward the ahri shooting at her the whole time even though i was charmed and killed her in 2 hits. so buggy man.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Anyone tryna duo? Silver V ready for action!
NA - gaMESense
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it's a fast enough missile with short enough range if you are playing anywhere east of the rockies it's probly just lag, you can def flash it I'm not unsure of that much.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 30 2014 08:11 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone. piglet excelled in team fight and skirmishing positioning. he was able to do a lot of damage given the space the team created for him. this, as we found out later, depended on him not tilting and working with his support. he's not that good in lane and was pretty out of his comfort zone once the meta shifted as well. if you've ever watched his solo queues he just goes on massive tilting sprees and throw games. i think the potential is there but there's also some work needed to get him to work within a team.
Curse is probably best team in that case which can work with Piglet. Some can argue that TSM is better, but pressure from the fans will be hilarious, Curse fans are way more loyal.
But even with probable Korean coach, his own workspace, Keane and Fenix, i don't see Piglet really succeeding here, as i've already said before.
And i won't be surprised, if Piglet literally starts playing only Caitlyn until teams ban it for first few weeks.
Curse probably will give him ability to pick for himself, knowing how they're starving Quas all the time.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Capitalizing Every Single Word Is A Horrible Crime Against Humanity
Don't Do It Kids
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On December 30 2014 08:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 08:11 oneofthem wrote:On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone. piglet excelled in team fight and skirmishing positioning. he was able to do a lot of damage given the space the team created for him. this, as we found out later, depended on him not tilting and working with his support. he's not that good in lane and was pretty out of his comfort zone once the meta shifted as well. if you've ever watched his solo queues he just goes on massive tilting sprees and throw games. i think the potential is there but there's also some work needed to get him to work within a team. Curse is probably best team in that case which can work with Piglet. Some can argue that TSM is better, but pressure from the fans will be hilarious, Curse fans are way more loyal.But even with probable Korean coach, his own workspace, Keane and Fenix, i don't see Piglet really succeeding here, as i've already said before. And i won't be surprised, if Piglet literally starts playing only Caitlyn until teams ban it for first few weeks. Curse probably will give him ability to pick for himself, knowing how they're starving Quas all the time.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Because the pressure from fans of NA team could amount to pressure from Korean SKT fans. He would probably work best on TSM because he'd be laning with Lustboy and have Loco as his coach. Keane doesn't really fit into the picture because he won't even be part of the esports division formerly known as Curse when actual play starts.
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On December 30 2014 08:32 Slusher wrote:
it's a fast enough missile with short enough range if you are playing anywhere east of the rockies it's probly just lag, you can def flash it I'm not unsure of that much.
But if he's charmed, he shouldn't attack her since it's basically:
- a taunt
- that slows
- interrupt moveblocks
- and most importantly here, disables autoattacks
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On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone.
yes, because uzi totally wasn't at worlds.
also, even in their dominating winter season where they didn't even drop a single game, piglet only came in 2nd for KDA, with score nipping behind his tail. Ultimately he only succeeded because of the pressure taken away from his lane because of Faker and Bengi's map domination. It's easy to look competent when you aren't required to carry your team. Which is fine, because SKT didn't need him to, but was rarely the reason SKT won games during their 2 season domination.
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All you guys talking ill of Piglet in NA don't seem to realize that unless he pulls a Calm and turns into badlet he's still going to crap on the majority of the NA lanes he faces. It's also pretty damn belittling to say he wasn't a big deal because others on his team did well. Last I check it's still a team game, and for all the power of Faker and Bengi at the time I don't recall anyone speaking ill of SKT's botlane either. Funny how the moment he goes NA he's washed up? Even if he is(pro tip: he ain't) Piglet is going to wreck kids in the LCS because he's just plane better then they are.
Going to enjoy quoting some of these posts in the future. Thanks for the laughs. Having said all of this, I expect his team to place fourth just to spite me.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:21 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone. yes, because uzi totally wasn't at worlds. also, even in their dominating winter season where they didn't even drop a single game, piglet only came in 2nd for KDA, with score nipping behind his tail. Ultimately he only succeeded because of the pressure taken away from his lane because of Faker and Bengi's map domination. It's easy to look competent when you aren't required to carry your team. Which is fine, because SKT didn't need him to, but was rarely the reason SKT won games during their 2 season domination.
Piglet dumped Uzi in finals, i know that you're Uzi fan wei, but it's too much.
And comparing Score and Piglet's playstyles in teamfight is just idk.
Also Piglet was primary carry of T1 throughout Worlds, not Faker. Everyone remembers Faker's Ahri/Gragas from NJBS/OMG games, still everyone forgets what Piglet did.
On December 30 2014 08:49 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2014 08:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 08:11 oneofthem wrote:On December 30 2014 04:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:On December 30 2014 03:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On December 30 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The thing is, piglet doesn't need to be the best in NA for Curse to succeed. Curse is an already solid team, and they just got a guaranteed upgrade with piglet over Cop. I don't think Piglet is going to go around stomping NA, he'll probably play fairly average for top 3~4 ADC in NA LCS, and that's okay, because that's all Curse needs from him. Can you imagine Piglet being okay with being ~top 3-4 adc in NA LCS? It's like imp/Mata being perfectly okay as top-3 duolane in Korea. I'm more inclined to say that if it happens, Piglet just gets burned out because of inability to improve and useless playing more and more. You make it sound as if Piglet at some point in his career was the best ADC in korea, that was never true. He's always been "good", but never the best. I think he'd be more than fine playing consistently at a high level. Piglet was best adc in the world by far at Worlds and i'd argue that he was best in Korea since T1 beat White in that semifinal in Summer 2013. There is a reason, why Piglet was crying after 15-0 Champions Season, he's just that competitive. Only problem i have with imp in arguments for him being best adc ever played the game that he never was primary carry of Samsung White/Ozone. Funnily enough, it wasn't a problem in MVP White/Ozone. piglet excelled in team fight and skirmishing positioning. he was able to do a lot of damage given the space the team created for him. this, as we found out later, depended on him not tilting and working with his support. he's not that good in lane and was pretty out of his comfort zone once the meta shifted as well. if you've ever watched his solo queues he just goes on massive tilting sprees and throw games. i think the potential is there but there's also some work needed to get him to work within a team. Curse is probably best team in that case which can work with Piglet. Some can argue that TSM is better, but pressure from the fans will be hilarious, Curse fans are way more loyal.But even with probable Korean coach, his own workspace, Keane and Fenix, i don't see Piglet really succeeding here, as i've already said before. And i won't be surprised, if Piglet literally starts playing only Caitlyn until teams ban it for first few weeks. Curse probably will give him ability to pick for himself, knowing how they're starving Quas all the time. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Because the pressure from fans of NA team could amount to pressure from Korean SKT fans. He would probably work best on TSM because he'd be laning with Lustboy and have Loco as his coach. Keane doesn't really fit into the picture because he won't even be part of the esports division formerly known as Curse when actual play starts.
That's why Piglet left T1 in first place, lol.
Coaching staff just pressured him too much in the end, from what i've heard.
And there are rumours that Optic will just let CA living in Curse mansion, just renting it basically.
On December 30 2014 09:28 Parnage wrote:
All you guys talking ill of Piglet in NA don't seem to realize that unless he pulls a Calm and turns into badlet he's still going to crap on the majority of the NA lanes he faces. It's also pretty damn belittling to say he wasn't a big deal because others on his team did well. Last I check it's still a team game, and for all the power of Faker and Bengi at the time I don't recall anyone speaking ill of SKT's botlane either. Funny how the moment he goes NA he's washed up? Even if he is(pro tip: he ain't) Piglet is going to wreck kids in the LCS because he's just plane better then they are.
Going to enjoy quoting some of these posts in the future. Thanks for the laughs. Having said all of this, I expect his team to place fourth just to spite me.
That's like Doublelift diehard fanboys proclaiming him the best adc in NA in 2015.
Noone doubts that Piglet still has it, he just won't play on his 2013 level at all most likely.
Unless he's CptJack.
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United States37500 Posts
I can see Curse top 2 in NA LCS come spring
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well in the case of SKT t1 and Piglet it is obviosly stupid to discredit Piglet's contribution based on the fact alone that all of their worst seasons coincide with Piglet's rise and fall as a top adc.
if you look at Faker as the constant, which I think most people do/should.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On December 30 2014 09:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
I can see Curse top 2 in NA LCS come spring
Just because they're only team who got improvements and C9 is first by default, lol.
You're not alone, top-2 is too much though, i still think that TSM will edge them by the end unless i'm fucking wrong and Piglet just goes wild, playing Kog'Maw better than Deft ever did in 28 games of regular season.
EG is still coinflip though, gotta see newcomers in action first.
On December 30 2014 09:35 Slusher wrote:
well in the case of SKT t1 and Piglet it is obviosly stupid to discredit Piglet's contribution based on the fact alone that all of their worst seasons coincide with Piglet's rise and fall as a top adc.
if you look at Faker as the constant, which I think most people do/should.
I'm going to get cursed, flamed and jinxed, but best Faker is when Bengi is at best.
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