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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 09 2014 20:42 GMT
#1421
Kobe's Bicep!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 20:59:12
December 09 2014 20:54 GMT
#1422
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol.

Why the hell am I whining on a EU/NA forum about an asian problem
Stop procrastinating
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:00:10
December 09 2014 20:58 GMT
#1423
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?

PBE: Smite charges is back with a 75s cd.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:04:04
December 09 2014 21:00 GMT
#1424
On December 10 2014 05:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?


Nope. Google got me a really weird reddit post

Edit: Jesus christ I have that set of cards. In chinese.

Actually you know what. Im fine with Katarina. Her real problem in this region lies in Mejais, which was also nerfed recently.

The problem is actually better now that I think about it.
Stop procrastinating
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 09 2014 21:01 GMT
#1425
On December 10 2014 06:00 padfoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 05:58 Gahlo wrote:
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?


Nope. Google got me a really weird reddit post

For a while, bronze would permaban champions that required an ounce of skill to play around because they were, well, bronze. Notably: Blitz, Amumu, and Malphite.

Perma pick/ban? Yes. OP? No.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
December 09 2014 21:06 GMT
#1426
On December 10 2014 06:01 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 06:00 padfoota wrote:
On December 10 2014 05:58 Gahlo wrote:
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?


Nope. Google got me a really weird reddit post

For a while, bronze would permaban champions that required an ounce of skill to play around because they were, well, bronze. Notably: Blitz, Amumu, and Malphite.

Perma pick/ban? Yes. OP? No.


Wouldnt know much about bronze since Ive actually never been bronze...
After thinking about it shes mainly OP with mejais. The rest can only be experienced...not explained
Stop procrastinating
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:10:52
December 09 2014 21:10 GMT
#1427
Until she starts getting played a lot in other regions or sees some professional play she isn't gonna get nerfed.In eu at least only some kata mains play her.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 09 2014 21:11 GMT
#1428
On December 10 2014 05:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?

PBE: Smite charges is back with a 75s cd.


Welcome back Lane-Smite.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:26:22
December 09 2014 21:18 GMT
#1429
On December 10 2014 06:10 nafta wrote:
Until she starts getting played a lot in other regions or sees some professional play she isn't gonna get nerfed.In eu at least only some kata mains play her.


Thought so...Lee Sin was 90% pick/ban in asia for half to maybe a full year before you guys even started to whine about him.
Hes still top 5 but his winrate suffered heavily from changes + new jungle
Kata has been queen/king of ban list for longer than that tbh.

In reality the main problem is probably mejais and sword of the occult. They appear every game and usually in multiple forms on both sides...while the last memory of mejais/occult for NA/EU is that they are "troll items"

The meta basically just goes towards champs who can really maximize on those two items.

So how we get kata changed is to simply start smurfing in EU and NA. Makes sense
Stop procrastinating
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 09 2014 21:19 GMT
#1430
Pitch Nits
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-421-notes
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:23:38
December 09 2014 21:21 GMT
#1431
Diana

:D
Minor fix

:<

At least there are jax buffs, lower CD on counter-strike is awesome and the energy buff to shen's E is cool
Glorious SEA doto
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
December 09 2014 21:29 GMT
#1432
R - Feast
HUNGRY CHO'GATH Feast now has 50% of its cooldown and mana cost refunded if it kills a minion or monster.

I like. I do really like that buff.

R - Idol of Durand
YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME Idol of Durand's taunt is no longer reducible by tenacity.

This is pretty neat but won't make Galio top pick again :\
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 09 2014 21:30 GMT
#1433
On December 10 2014 05:40 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/12/129-pbe-update.html

+ Show Spoiler [Ahri Skin] +
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UCKInTPs-ic/VIdWGFfXvVI/AAAAAAAAfJY/yogrZCc6ry4/s1600/daunt.jpg


+ Show Spoiler [Braum Skin] +
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wYkJb-RfnlU/VIdVdwsnCbI/AAAAAAAAfJQ/h4xwTIqJCEc/s1600/dfsfd.jpg


+ Show Spoiler [Alistar VU] +
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--5PzrjF1OdA/VIdb2Bxsx-I/AAAAAAAAfJw/GpbGv_g7zW8/s1600/alister.jpg

that ahri skin is new levels of terri-bad.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 09 2014 21:37 GMT
#1434
wait what?? why are they nerfing Infinite duress damage and devouer damage in the same patch?? holy shit I never understand why they do shit like this when they have such a short patch cycle.
Carrilord has arrived.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:38:04
December 09 2014 21:37 GMT
#1435
On December 10 2014 06:18 padfoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 06:10 nafta wrote:
Until she starts getting played a lot in other regions or sees some professional play she isn't gonna get nerfed.In eu at least only some kata mains play her.


Thought so...Lee Sin was 90% pick/ban in asia for half to maybe a full year before you guys even started to whine about him.
Hes still top 5 but his winrate suffered heavily from changes + new jungle
Kata has been queen/king of ban list for longer than that tbh.

In reality the main problem is probably mejais and sword of the occult. They appear every game and usually in multiple forms on both sides...while the last memory of mejais/occult for NA/EU is that they are "troll items"

The meta basically just goes towards champs who can really maximize on those two items.

So how we get kata changed is to simply start smurfing in EU and NA. Makes sense


Isnt that just a difference in thinking though?

NA/EU like the safe, methodical snowball rolling down the hill at a steady pace while koreans are go ham or go home.

In other words koreans take risks and we're all a bunch of pussies.
Useless wet fish.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 21:39:40
December 09 2014 21:38 GMT
#1436
for some reason reason they are buffing jax late when his problem is in early laning
now if he ever becomes viable again hes going to be even more annoying
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 09 2014 21:47 GMT
#1437
On December 10 2014 06:29 739 wrote:
R - Feast
HUNGRY CHO'GATH Feast now has 50% of its cooldown and mana cost refunded if it kills a minion or monster.

I like. I do really like that buff.

R - Idol of Durand
YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME Idol of Durand's taunt is no longer reducible by tenacity.

This is pretty neat but won't make Galio top pick again :\


Aww yes time to bring back the top Cho'gath.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 09 2014 21:49 GMT
#1438
They significantly increased the r cooldown when not chowing minions though.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 09 2014 21:58 GMT
#1439
It's still a huge QoL change. You can stack/restack Feast 50% faster than before. The 20 extra seconds when you use it to nom people aren't going to be that big a deal.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 09 2014 22:07 GMT
#1440
I dont understand why they increase the knockback on zac's ultimate.Like sure you can push people towards your team but it should just be a knockup.Would help him wombo people with it so much.
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