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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#1441
On December 10 2014 06:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 06:29 739 wrote:
R - Feast
HUNGRY CHO'GATH Feast now has 50% of its cooldown and mana cost refunded if it kills a minion or monster.

I like. I do really like that buff.

R - Idol of Durand
YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME Idol of Durand's taunt is no longer reducible by tenacity.

This is pretty neat but won't make Galio top pick again :\


Aww yes time to bring back the top Cho'gath.

You called?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 22:46:03
December 09 2014 22:33 GMT
#1442
edit: jk i'm blind.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
December 09 2014 22:36 GMT
#1443
On December 10 2014 06:01 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 06:00 padfoota wrote:
On December 10 2014 05:58 Gahlo wrote:
On December 10 2014 05:54 padfoota wrote:
Thats what you guys argued about lee sin lol

Maybe im a dumbass but perma pick/ban says something about a champion.

You know what. Why the hell am I whining to you guys anyways.

Have you ever heard of the bronzodia phenomenon?


Nope. Google got me a really weird reddit post

For a while, bronze would permaban champions that required an ounce of skill to play around because they were, well, bronze. Notably: Blitz, Amumu, and Malphite.

Perma pick/ban? Yes. OP? No.


Padfoota tends to play at high diamond and tends to usually give insight on a lot of trends well before they crop up in NA/EU. I wouldn't accuse him of the Bronzodia syndrome .

In terms of Katarina, it's actually hilarious because the last two days of the season, you had huge amounts of ELO boosters from Asia doing jobs in NA and Katarina was perma ban/picked during those weeks across the board.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 22:38:47
December 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#1444
On December 10 2014 07:33 Haemonculus wrote:
I'm kind of surprised that they haven't tweaked skirmisher or devourer. Both are very strong.

On the plus side though, until they nerf it and/or fix jungle-agro ranges, my jungle MF will continue to be beastmode.


but they did
Carrilord has arrived.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#1445
On December 10 2014 07:38 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:33 Haemonculus wrote:
I'm kind of surprised that they haven't tweaked skirmisher or devourer. Both are very strong.

On the plus side though, until they nerf it and/or fix jungle-agro ranges, my jungle MF will continue to be beastmode.


but they did

Aha, so they did. Welp, fun while it lasted.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 09 2014 22:50 GMT
#1446
On December 10 2014 06:58 Seuss wrote:
It's still a huge QoL change. You can stack/restack Feast 50% faster than before. The 20 extra seconds when you use it to nom people aren't going to be that big a deal.


33% faster, if you never use it on an enemy champion.

Still a buff, just clarifying a bit.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#1447
--- Nuked ---
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2014 23:02 GMT
#1448
OH SHIT luchador Braum

On December 10 2014 06:37 Slusher wrote:
wait what?? why are they nerfing Infinite duress damage and devouer damage in the same patch?? holy shit I never understand why they do shit like this when they have such a short patch cycle.

Because FUCK YOU LANEWICK that's why.

I mean. For once it's not a jungle champion that they gut because he's seen in the offlane, so I guess it's a change. But still.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 09 2014 23:07 GMT
#1449
PBE Report:

Smite hasn't actually changed yet. But according the tooltip its CD is now 15 seconds in addition to the 75s charge regeneration.

That CD is pretty crucial because it means mids can't back to back Smite something, whether it be a champion or a Creep camp. There's still potential for Lane Smite, but it'll be a little less abusable.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 09 2014 23:15 GMT
#1450
Lane smite wasn't even that abusive though... there were just fringe cases of pros just trying it out in solo queue at best...
liftlift > tsm
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 09 2014 23:23 GMT
#1451
On December 10 2014 08:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Lane smite wasn't even that abusive though... there were just fringe cases of pros just trying it out in solo queue at best...


I'm talking PBE, not 4.20.

There's a fundamental different between Smite with 2 charges and Smite without that made Lane Smite look way too stupid when the first tooltip hit the PBE.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 10 2014 00:11 GMT
#1452
removing the shoes on matador alistar is stupid
fuck that shit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 00:15:09
December 10 2014 00:14 GMT
#1453
On December 10 2014 08:23 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 08:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Lane smite wasn't even that abusive though... there were just fringe cases of pros just trying it out in solo queue at best...


I'm talking PBE, not 4.20.

There's a fundamental different between Smite with 2 charges and Smite without that made Lane Smite look way too stupid when the first tooltip hit the PBE.

Ohhh okay, that makes sense then.
On December 10 2014 09:11 arb wrote:
removing the shoes on matador alistar is stupid
fuck that shit

They should have just left Alistar's model alone...
If you mess with the bull, you get the horns!
liftlift > tsm
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
December 10 2014 00:28 GMT
#1454
Has anyone been buying Righteous Glory? If so, what are your thoughts on the item and its build timing? I was having very mixed results building it on engage supports after FotM/sightstone, so I was wondering if anyone had tried building it out of top lane or the jungle.
Trust in Bayes.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 10 2014 00:38 GMT
#1455
On December 10 2014 09:28 MidnightGladius wrote:
Has anyone been buying Righteous Glory? If so, what are your thoughts on the item and its build timing? I was having very mixed results building it on engage supports after FotM/sightstone, so I was wondering if anyone had tried building it out of top lane or the jungle.

It's SOOOO GOOOD.

I absolutely adore this item on most supports, or any jungle which doesn't need to build damage. It's obviously only useful for chasing/engaging, but 60% movement speed for three whole seconds. That's huge.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 10 2014 00:44 GMT
#1456
On December 10 2014 09:28 MidnightGladius wrote:
Has anyone been buying Righteous Glory? If so, what are your thoughts on the item and its build timing? I was having very mixed results building it on engage supports after FotM/sightstone, so I was wondering if anyone had tried building it out of top lane or the jungle.

For what it's worth wicked built this item after warden's mail on maokai vs C9, and became insanely tanky really quickly, and was able to constantly peel for his team. I'm still of the opinion RoA is better first item buy for Maokai, and that RG doesn't work that well as a 2nd item follow up (cuz you need resistance/armor).
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
December 10 2014 00:56 GMT
#1457
On December 10 2014 09:28 MidnightGladius wrote:
Has anyone been buying Righteous Glory? If so, what are your thoughts on the item and its build timing? I was having very mixed results building it on engage supports after FotM/sightstone, so I was wondering if anyone had tried building it out of top lane or the jungle.

I'm dreading the day this community values the item and remembers Olaf is a champion.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 10 2014 01:00 GMT
#1458
Would need to be tested. Not sure how Olaf feels about the mana (he probs like it if he trades a bunch with Q or needs to spam it in an annoying match-up) but it's not a strong laning item like an offensive one or sunfire can be. Also no CDR compared to Shurelya for example.
It doesn't feel that great as a first buy because it's not much HP for the cost, and as a follow-up I'm not sure (Randuin's prob better 2nd item after Ghostblade/BotRK). The utility is nice, but Olaf still needs the stats to make an impact once he's in there, and his priority is still reaching the enemy, he won't want to pop his ult just to get in range then have it down. Sure would love an ally buying it though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
December 10 2014 01:04 GMT
#1459
On December 10 2014 10:00 Alaric wrote:
Would need to be tested. Not sure how Olaf feels about the mana (he probs like it if he trades a bunch with Q or needs to spam it in an annoying match-up) but it's not a strong laning item like an offensive one or sunfire can be. Also no CDR compared to Shurelya for example.
It doesn't feel that great as a first buy because it's not much HP for the cost, and as a follow-up I'm not sure (Randuin's prob better 2nd item after Ghostblade/BotRK). The utility is nice, but Olaf still needs the stats to make an impact once he's in there, and his priority is still reaching the enemy, he won't want to pop his ult just to get in range then have it down. Sure would love an ally buying it though.

People bitched and moaned about how he was useless when Sherlia's was removed, so why not? *shrugs*
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 01:23:01
December 10 2014 01:08 GMT
#1460
Meta changed since then, tank items are generally weaker slot-wise for example, while top lane is way less passive so being strong early is more important (although less so than in early s4 obv.). It's 500 more gold than Shurelya too, with a more awkward build-up (no mp5, no kindlegem value). Obviously if you can get an early catalyst it's still quite strong just because of its passive. As I said, gotta test it. Picks like Gnar or Lissandra will still prevent you from picking Olaf anyway.

eg. why I said "gotta test it". But if I get top I'm going to want to play some Lissandra to be less of a shitter, Kennen because I find his laning super interesting and I wish we'd see his kind of ult come back in the meta, and now I've got Jax to try out a bit and see if I can get something out of him too.
And I still have a jungle pool to consolidate. Bleh. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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