• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:49
CEST 21:49
KST 04:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League59Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Battle.net abbreviations list Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8984 users

[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 96

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 157 Next
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 24 2014 01:30 GMT
#1901
On October 24 2014 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 09:53 Eiii wrote:
Yeah, I was going to avoid playing ranked because of it and then realized I actually really want to see it happen even if it means I lose a game so whatever

I would take that attitude but I'm in promos to Gold V and have limited time to play the game until the season rewards deadline hits so I wanna try to make it in now, Victorious Morgana 2gud

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:13 Seuss wrote:
PBE changes do not include the jungle stuff.

Disappoint.

they're alternating having that and the VU on and off, cause I'm guessing the VU will be next patch now that worlds is over


VU pls
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 24 2014 01:30 GMT
#1902
On October 24 2014 06:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 06:18 Numy wrote:
On October 24 2014 05:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
In my true masochistic nature and love of getting yelled at in champ select, I think I'm returning to Cassio for my next project


New Cassio feels a bit shit honestly. Don't know if it's worth trying her out compared to the old her.


when has that ever stopped me before?

i like her, you just need to adjust a runepage to make her decent. practice with a ryze rune page with flat mana and then adjust until you feel comfortable is my reccomendation. it worked decent.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 24 2014 03:07 GMT
#1903
On October 24 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 06:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 24 2014 06:18 Numy wrote:
On October 24 2014 05:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
In my true masochistic nature and love of getting yelled at in champ select, I think I'm returning to Cassio for my next project


New Cassio feels a bit shit honestly. Don't know if it's worth trying her out compared to the old her.


when has that ever stopped me before?

i like her, you just need to adjust a runepage to make her decent. practice with a ryze rune page with flat mana and then adjust until you feel comfortable is my reccomendation. it worked decent.


I haven't changed my runes since before way back when they changed a bunch of them. No idea what's good.

But I played her a few games and have had very few mana issues. Annie Q on E with no cooldown is amaaaaaaaaaazing
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 24 2014 03:18 GMT
#1904
TIL I have ~10 ping difference between playing on NA and playing on EUW.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 03:33:41
October 24 2014 03:21 GMT
#1905
On October 24 2014 12:18 Amui wrote:
TIL I have ~10 ping difference between playing on NA and playing on EUW.

Yup. Sometimes I get better ping to EUW than NA.

How big of a drop off is using AP glyphs instead of mana glyphs on Ryze? 3690ip is pretty steep right now.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 24 2014 03:37 GMT
#1906
Just use MS Glyphs on Ryze. Like a baws.
Freeeeeeedom
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 24 2014 03:50 GMT
#1907
On October 24 2014 12:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On October 24 2014 06:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 24 2014 06:18 Numy wrote:
On October 24 2014 05:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
In my true masochistic nature and love of getting yelled at in champ select, I think I'm returning to Cassio for my next project


New Cassio feels a bit shit honestly. Don't know if it's worth trying her out compared to the old her.


when has that ever stopped me before?

i like her, you just need to adjust a runepage to make her decent. practice with a ryze rune page with flat mana and then adjust until you feel comfortable is my reccomendation. it worked decent.


I haven't changed my runes since before way back when they changed a bunch of them. No idea what's good.

But I played her a few games and have had very few mana issues. Annie Q on E with no cooldown is amaaaaaaaaaazing

yeah its good. the extra mana from the ryze page is mostly for the 6 extra mana per E last hit to fund the constant poison you are probably using. you don't have enough mana problems to dedicate too much to it, but the base mana from the rune page does take care of pretty much all the problems almost all game. i started with that page and turned the quints to spell vamp eventually. but the flat mana actually pays for 100% of your waveclear in regen from the E and makes stacking a breeze.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 24 2014 03:51 GMT
#1908
On October 24 2014 12:37 cLutZ wrote:
Just use MS Glyphs on Ryze. Like a baws.

MS doesn't come in glyph form.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 03:54:49
October 24 2014 03:53 GMT
#1909
On October 24 2014 12:21 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 12:18 Amui wrote:
TIL I have ~10 ping difference between playing on NA and playing on EUW.

Yup. Sometimes I get better ping to EUW than NA.

How big of a drop off is using AP glyphs instead of mana glyphs on Ryze? 3690ip is pretty steep right now.

The damage is roughly the same. so you are just missing out on having an extra couple spells worth of mana. which can get you an extra kill every few games. not enough to put off a ton of other spending on ip, but it definitely is pretty much undeniably better.

Unless you play a lot of blitz or cass or ryze its probably not worth the investing in the flat mana right now.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 24 2014 03:59 GMT
#1910
On October 24 2014 12:51 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 12:37 cLutZ wrote:
Just use MS Glyphs on Ryze. Like a baws.

MS doesn't come in glyph form.


Lol. Oh my. Why not just use MR like normal lazy people?
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 24 2014 04:38 GMT
#1911
CDR per level glyphs.

You are welcome.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 24 2014 06:13 GMT
#1912
who uses CDR per level glyphs on Ryze...?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 24 2014 06:29 GMT
#1913
please
please never do that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 06:40:19
October 24 2014 06:38 GMT
#1914
who is Santorin? and what beats zilean in bot? so far i only know janna can sustain abit but the 600 range from Zilean is retarded



mata streaming btw
http://www.twitch.tv/dnjfdur2
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 24 2014 06:40 GMT
#1915
welp lost promos 2-3 gg
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
October 24 2014 07:12 GMT
#1916
So first I've had problems with HDD and bad sectors. Now, when I have a new HDD I probably have problems with graphic card or some shit, because my notebook keeps freezing in random moments when I'm launching any game at facebook or I'm trying to run Everest or some shit. I can watch movies/serials online that's no problem.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 07:28:09
October 24 2014 07:27 GMT
#1917
New Cassio is fine if you like the E machine gun style. If you like the old Q max watch them slowly die to DoT, you probably won't enjoy it.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 24 2014 07:34 GMT
#1918
On October 24 2014 15:38 justiceknight wrote:
who is Santorin? and what beats zilean in bot? so far i only know janna can sustain abit but the 600 range from Zilean is retarded



mata streaming btw
http://www.twitch.tv/dnjfdur2

Nami does really well against zilean support
Glorious SEA doto
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
October 24 2014 08:41 GMT
#1919
On October 24 2014 15:38 justiceknight wrote:
who is Santorin? and what beats zilean in bot? so far i only know janna can sustain abit but the 600 range from Zilean is retarded



mata streaming btw
http://www.twitch.tv/dnjfdur2



eh come on, zilean is not something spectacular bot lane, if u just want sustain, Sona, Nami perhaps even soraka can do perfectly fine. Also if u put few more points on shield, morgana can neglect his damage almost completely. Karma can out harass him (together with providing sustain with shield) if you know what u r doing. What else.. Blitz and Tresh can always zone him, but its a skill match ups. Also if the adc goes for early vampire scepter, he can cope up with Zilean with little help from the support
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 24 2014 09:07 GMT
#1920
Black shield's cooldown is 13 seconds longer than Zilean's Q, and at level 3 Q will do ~180 damage while black shiled will only protect ~80.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 157 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
RO8 - Day 1
FEL
18:00
ScienceCraft - Day 1
RotterdaM644
IndyStarCraft 367
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 644
mouzHeroMarine 374
IndyStarCraft 367
JuggernautJason75
EmSc Tv 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 875
ZZZero.O 163
Dewaltoss 111
Sexy 41
HiyA 37
Hyuk 30
Mong 29
Dota 2
Cr1tdota2038
canceldota88
febbydoto4
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 616
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu612
Trikslyr117
Other Games
Grubby3568
FrodaN1965
Liquid`RaSZi1933
singsing1672
B2W.Neo929
Beastyqt741
ToD53
QueenE45
UpATreeSC27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1462
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 20
EmSc2Tv 20
angryscii 14
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 54
• Adnapsc2 29
• HeavenSC 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 98
• 80smullet 24
• FirePhoenix10
• ChaeLyn 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4346
• Nemesis3511
• Scarra1212
Other Games
• imaqtpie722
• Shiphtur387
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
FEL
14h 11m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 11m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 16h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.