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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 30 2014 14:26 GMT
#2481
#1 advice for anyone trying to develop a following: Set a schedule and keep to it. That means:
  • Streaming regularly and at predictable hours.
  • Uploading highlights/videos in a timely fashion.
  • Keeping this up consistently for months.

Everyone else's advice is good too, just be prepared to stick with this. It's going to take a ton of time and effort before it's profitable.

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 30 2014 14:49 GMT
#2482
On October 30 2014 18:35 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 18:28 JazzVortical wrote:
I find Hexakill on TT very fun. I consider it a success. I'm not bored with it yet, which is something I can't say about other modes.


yeah its fun w/o kat


Kat is the most played but by no means the highest win rate.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 30 2014 14:50 GMT
#2483
On October 30 2014 23:49 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 18:35 justiceknight wrote:
On October 30 2014 18:28 JazzVortical wrote:
I find Hexakill on TT very fun. I consider it a success. I'm not bored with it yet, which is something I can't say about other modes.


yeah its fun w/o kat


Kat is the most played but by no means the highest win rate.

just because something doesn't have the highest winrate doesnt mean its fun to play with in a game.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 30 2014 14:54 GMT
#2484
Pretty stacked teams on Krepo`s stream duoing with Rekkles. They are up against Jankos jungle, Wickd top, Febiven mid and Rallez and Hjärnan bot.
But they really tryhard and the stream is really informative.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 30 2014 14:56 GMT
#2485
I think this entire "1300 on credit" thing sounds ridiculously risky.

It takes a long time to build up your viewerbase. If you got 1300 in cash to spare, sure. I just cannot see the justification of this much money via credit because it will take you a long time to get the money back even if you manage to succeed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 15:02:53
October 30 2014 15:01 GMT
#2486
Re streaming.

Dont be an asshole. Either in game or to your viewers or to yourself. Nightblue is extremely positive and i think thats a large part of his appeal. Matlife is extremely hard on himself in game and it was not fun to watch.

The visual presentation doesnt really matter much to me. Boxbox's stream is filled with nonsense and it looks stupid.

I would suggest checking out fatefalls. He is a fizz main in challenger. He seems like a nice guy, has a smartly designed layout, and interacts with viewers.

Have a ama/faq easily linked so people can learn about you/why they should watch you. Cowsep is an american living in korea as an english teacher. He only plays yi in masters and all the koreans know him. I learned that from his reddit ama.

I dont watch any streams of people below diamond. I hope you are good. I get enough of low elo in my own games. Being good at one champ or role is key.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 30 2014 15:01 GMT
#2487
On October 30 2014 23:26 Seuss wrote:
#1 advice for anyone trying to develop a following: Set a schedule and keep to it. That means:
  • Streaming regularly and at predictable hours.
  • Uploading highlights/videos in a timely fashion.
  • Keeping this up consistently for months.

Everyone else's advice is good too, just be prepared to stick with this. It's going to take a ton of time and effort before it's profitable.


I watched you weekly Monte
<3
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 30 2014 15:02 GMT
#2488
What's your life situation Jay? Are you broke as a joke if you don't become a popular streamer?

I don't think many people have been successful at quitting their job and becoming a big streamer. Rather they become a big streamer, then quit their job and become a full-time streamer.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 30 2014 15:10 GMT
#2489
He said he was still working. I talked to him a bunch about this last night and he seems to know what it entails (for example many streamers are at it for over a year before becoming really popular or achieving oartnership).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 15:37:56
October 30 2014 15:31 GMT
#2490
I tried streaming before. I thought I was okay at being entertaining enough and a good enough jokester when I was with friends but I realized after that I hate talking to people I don't know and am too antisocial to stream properly . Interacting with viewers is difficult if not weird already for me since with a small amount of viewers there's going to be a lot of interaction with specific people. Then again, I only had like 16 people watching tops.

Also, if you live in a place with shitty internet upload speeds, you may as well just give up now. I've streamed with around 4Mbps and I wouldn't watch myself with that little quality (I think I was going 720p 48fps though).
BW -> League -> CSGO
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
October 30 2014 15:37 GMT
#2491
On October 30 2014 23:26 Seuss wrote:
#1 advice for anyone trying to develop a following: Set a schedule and keep to it. That means:
  • Streaming regularly and at predictable hours.
  • Uploading highlights/videos in a timely fashion.
  • Keeping this up consistently for months.

Everyone else's advice is good too, just be prepared to stick with this. It's going to take a ton of time and effort before it's profitable.



I can't stress this out enough. I've got all my Youtube subscribers and Facebook followers from the time where I used to release an SC2 video EVERY DAY. I did it for around a year and that really kicked things off.

Now it's the opposite. I do it only on and off and nobody gives a fuck anymore. I'm randomly recognised by French players in soloQ/IRL but that's it. Only a glimmer of what it was when I was doing regular content.

Man, working sucks...
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2014 15:37 GMT
#2492
On October 30 2014 16:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Yo Guiss. I wanna try to stream for a living. I put 1300 on a credit card to get a computer good enough to stream. I have always wanted to do it and i feel if I didn't try I would regret it. That being said I was hoping to get some TL Support :D

Anyone have any suggestions, tips, ideas ect, ect.

- don't put it on credit card if you can't pay it off by end of month, interest rates will rape you to oblivion.
- webcam! people love face cams (assuming you're at least as good looking as qtpie, can't be that hard)
- show cleavage.
- what do you plan on streaming? I'm assuming LoL? get good, I think there are only like 2 or 3 non d1-skill level male streamers that break 1k views regularly, if you want to be the big name, one of the best ways is to get good first.
- always stream the hype'd up new AAA titles.
- be funny, funny gets views, and keeps views.
- regular stream schedule, remember if you plan on making money, treat it like a job. put in the hours, and put them in regularly
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 15:50:51
October 30 2014 15:48 GMT
#2493
How bad do you guys think the Q nerf to Ryze on the PBE will hurt him? 60/85/110/135/160 => 40/60/80/100/120

Debating on picking up an AP top but I don't want to drop the IP on the glyph set if he's gonna be poop and be most of my way to somebody like Rumble.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 16:00:25
October 30 2014 15:58 GMT
#2494
Also jay i want to mention you can get a streaming rig for 750-800 not 1300. if you want to add quality you can spend 25 on a green screen, 150 on a top quality mic and 50 is good enough for a face cam of exceptional quality and you can get lighting for 25 more if you really want it. so thats still under 1k total. unless you plan on streaming cry-engine games or super modern titles, its not worth the extra 500 dollars on a computer.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 30 2014 16:00 GMT
#2495
On October 31 2014 00:31 wussleeQ wrote:
I tried streaming before. I thought I was okay at being entertaining enough and a good enough jokester when I was with friends but I realized after that I hate talking to people I don't know and am too antisocial to stream properly . Interacting with viewers is difficult if not weird already for me since with a small amount of viewers there's going to be a lot of interaction with specific people. Then again, I only had like 16 people watching tops.

Also, if you live in a place with shitty internet upload speeds, you may as well just give up now. I've streamed with around 4Mbps and I wouldn't watch myself with that little quality (I think I was going 720p 48fps though).

I was just talking to soniv about this but it really helps if you're a huge fucking bigmouth and love the sound of your own voice like me
I don't know how entertaining I truly am to be honest, but I just try to be me and I think ultimately that's what has to work best.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 16:07:54
October 30 2014 16:00 GMT
#2496
On October 31 2014 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:31 wussleeQ wrote:
I tried streaming before. I thought I was okay at being entertaining enough and a good enough jokester when I was with friends but I realized after that I hate talking to people I don't know and am too antisocial to stream properly . Interacting with viewers is difficult if not weird already for me since with a small amount of viewers there's going to be a lot of interaction with specific people. Then again, I only had like 16 people watching tops.

Also, if you live in a place with shitty internet upload speeds, you may as well just give up now. I've streamed with around 4Mbps and I wouldn't watch myself with that little quality (I think I was going 720p 48fps though).

I was just talking to soniv about this but it really helps if you're a huge fucking bigmouth and love the sound of your own voice like me
I don't know how entertaining I truly am to be honest, but I just try to be me and I think ultimately that's what has to work best.

I got called the bob ross of starcraft and i have no idea if thats a compliment or an insult to this day.

god i looked up my old stuff i was trying to get done. i bit off so much more than i could chew and i got stuck in a spot i couldnt do anything once initial plans fell through>

jay. stick to just streaming don't try to expand beyond that. don't bother with highlight reels early or anything outside of the stream until you feel super prepared to spend hours in prep a day. i have a huge guilty feeling from the stuff i announced and could never follow through up on for various reasons from Bnet account getting stolen to the guy i was talking with helping me being a scammer ect.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2014 16:06 GMT
#2497
On October 31 2014 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:31 wussleeQ wrote:
I tried streaming before. I thought I was okay at being entertaining enough and a good enough jokester when I was with friends but I realized after that I hate talking to people I don't know and am too antisocial to stream properly . Interacting with viewers is difficult if not weird already for me since with a small amount of viewers there's going to be a lot of interaction with specific people. Then again, I only had like 16 people watching tops.

Also, if you live in a place with shitty internet upload speeds, you may as well just give up now. I've streamed with around 4Mbps and I wouldn't watch myself with that little quality (I think I was going 720p 48fps though).

I was just talking to soniv about this but it really helps if you're a huge fucking bigmouth and love the sound of your own voice like me
I don't know how entertaining I truly am to be honest, but I just try to be me and I think ultimately that's what has to work best.


I think this is the most important part. And it's important to remember that you're never going to please everyone. If people don't like your personality, then they won't watch. But try to be yourself and as inviting and fun as possible.

When I was streaming league regularly, my play improved quite a bit because I knew people were watching and would criticize my mistakes. Also, I would occasionally do streams of consciousness, which helped keep my play focused because it would force me to constantly be thinking of the right plays.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2014 16:07 GMT
#2498
On October 31 2014 00:48 Gahlo wrote:
How bad do you guys think the Q nerf to Ryze on the PBE will hurt him? 60/85/110/135/160 => 40/60/80/100/120

Debating on picking up an AP top but I don't want to drop the IP on the glyph set if he's gonna be poop and be most of my way to somebody like Rumble.

is that damage change for reals? holy shit that's a pretty sizeable chunk. auto attacks do more damage than his Q at level 1 I bet.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 16:10:47
October 30 2014 16:09 GMT
#2499
On October 31 2014 00:48 Gahlo wrote:
How bad do you guys think the Q nerf to Ryze on the PBE will hurt him? 60/85/110/135/160 => 40/60/80/100/120

Debating on picking up an AP top but I don't want to drop the IP on the glyph set if he's gonna be poop and be most of my way to somebody like Rumble.

If that goes through as is. he'll be weak to the early all in champions but still good against the standard pro style top lanes of mundo/maokai ect. probably forced to lane swap vs rumble as he almost always does now anyway. you could still be successful in solo queue with him, but you'll have to learn how to play defensive and not try for risky cs early vs some of the strong lane champs.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2014 16:19 GMT
#2500
On October 31 2014 01:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:48 Gahlo wrote:
How bad do you guys think the Q nerf to Ryze on the PBE will hurt him? 60/85/110/135/160 => 40/60/80/100/120

Debating on picking up an AP top but I don't want to drop the IP on the glyph set if he's gonna be poop and be most of my way to somebody like Rumble.

If that goes through as is. he'll be weak to the early all in champions but still good against the standard pro style top lanes of mundo/maokai ect. probably forced to lane swap vs rumble as he almost always does now anyway. you could still be successful in solo queue with him, but you'll have to learn how to play defensive and not try for risky cs early vs some of the strong lane champs.


Good. When a champion is as strong as he is late game, his early game should suffer to make up for it.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
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