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[Patch 4.17] Soraka/Viktor General Discussion - Page 11

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asymptotech
Profile Joined May 2013
United States295 Posts
September 26 2014 01:10 GMT
#201
On September 26 2014 10:03 Parnage wrote:
Personalities get hate tweets, what else is new?
I mean yeah it sucks, but who gives a fuck about haters and trolls.


There are lots of people that get affected by it. I swear every third game we come out of these days my wife says dejectedly "people are so mean, I don't know if I wanna queue again." It's easy to assume everyone else has a thick skin; but they don't. And that tweet that was quoted above is exactly why two of us replied with "because she's a girl" to your original comment. The internet is a fucking awful place for females far too often.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 26 2014 01:10 GMT
#202
New Sion, gives me hope that Poppy rework won't suck. Then again I didn't like the old Sion so yeah..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 26 2014 01:14 GMT
#203
On September 26 2014 10:00 Slusher wrote:
HuK famously did an interview at the first assembly (a very large tournament at the time) where before the tournament he said he was a favorite because he had "top 3 [unit] control in the world". He then proceeded to get knocked out almost instantly in groups spawning the "Top 3 control" twitch chat/ live report meme


Oh, Lol. Forgot about that. I always enjoyed HuK games because he would go ham and do stupid shit like Mothership rushes (before HotS), but he was never that great of a player and when he went to KR full time for a while that showed. I just brought him up because Husky loves HuK (sometimes to disturbing levels).

My 13 year old cousin is a big Husky fan.
Freeeeeeedom
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 26 2014 01:17 GMT
#204
On September 26 2014 10:00 Slusher wrote:
HuK famously did an interview at the first assembly (a very large tournament at the time) where before the tournament he said he was a favorite because he had "top 3 [unit] control in the world". He then proceeded to get knocked out almost instantly in groups spawning the "Top 3 control" twitch chat/ live report meme


So kinda like [4] and 322?
@miicah88
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 26 2014 01:19 GMT
#205
On September 26 2014 10:10 asymptotech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 10:03 Parnage wrote:
Personalities get hate tweets, what else is new?
I mean yeah it sucks, but who gives a fuck about haters and trolls.


There are lots of people that get affected by it. I swear every third game we come out of these days my wife says dejectedly "people are so mean, I don't know if I wanna queue again." It's easy to assume everyone else has a thick skin; but they don't. And that tweet that was quoted above is exactly why two of us replied with "because she's a girl" to your original comment. The internet is a fucking awful place for females far too often.


Anyone who is in a public arena, a personality is going to get hate and threats. Anyone. Look at that whole Celebrities read mean tweets bit, look at the old GD threads where people are making jokes about Saint being drunk all the time and missing smite. Look at the bans for people in the fanclub threads.

It sucks, but it's something anyone who puts themselves out and makes content has to deal with. Be you a caster for a video game or a movie star. I'm not going to blame on sexism for what can be attributed to blind hatred.

Yeah people are mean in League, it's one of the main reasons I lost interest in it. I got tired of trying to defend myself, it put me off. The sad part is those kind of people in all honesty are a minority and yeah you really shouldn't let it bother you but I'm not going to sit here and say it's easy to do. It's not.

The internet and society is critical of everyone if they get the opportunity.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#206
On September 26 2014 10:17 miicah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 10:00 Slusher wrote:
HuK famously did an interview at the first assembly (a very large tournament at the time) where before the tournament he said he was a favorite because he had "top 3 [unit] control in the world". He then proceeded to get knocked out almost instantly in groups spawning the "Top 3 control" twitch chat/ live report meme


So kinda like [4] and 322?


pretty much exactly
Carrilord has arrived.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#207
On September 26 2014 10:14 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 10:00 Slusher wrote:
HuK famously did an interview at the first assembly (a very large tournament at the time) where before the tournament he said he was a favorite because he had "top 3 [unit] control in the world". He then proceeded to get knocked out almost instantly in groups spawning the "Top 3 control" twitch chat/ live report meme


Oh, Lol. Forgot about that. I always enjoyed HuK games because he would go ham and do stupid shit like Mothership rushes (before HotS), but he was never that great of a player and when he went to KR full time for a while that showed. I just brought him up because Husky loves HuK (sometimes to disturbing levels).

My 13 year old cousin is a big Husky fan.


"tahts halo dont worry"

:D
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 26 2014 01:32 GMT
#208
If you agree, give me some up votes. Off the front page already due to people not understanding game

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ldrb7F20-riotsolcrushed-comments-on-the-not-so-glorious-evolution
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 26 2014 01:32 GMT
#209
On September 26 2014 10:21 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 10:14 cLutZ wrote:
On September 26 2014 10:00 Slusher wrote:
HuK famously did an interview at the first assembly (a very large tournament at the time) where before the tournament he said he was a favorite because he had "top 3 [unit] control in the world". He then proceeded to get knocked out almost instantly in groups spawning the "Top 3 control" twitch chat/ live report meme


Oh, Lol. Forgot about that. I always enjoyed HuK games because he would go ham and do stupid shit like Mothership rushes (before HotS), but he was never that great of a player and when he went to KR full time for a while that showed. I just brought him up because Husky loves HuK (sometimes to disturbing levels).

My 13 year old cousin is a big Husky fan.


"tahts halo dont worry"

:D


Haha. I also forgot about the soundproofing controversy. Almost like when Blaze "looked at the screen" vs. TSM. Clearly TSM would have won otherwise
Freeeeeeedom
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 26 2014 01:38 GMT
#210
On September 26 2014 09:58 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:09 Ketara wrote:
I'm surprised there are people on TL who still dont know who Kaceytron is.


I try to forget but people keep bringing her worthless name up.


Kaceytron is amazing and you don't have a sense of humor.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
September 26 2014 01:54 GMT
#211
On September 26 2014 10:38 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:58 Disengaged wrote:
On September 26 2014 09:09 Ketara wrote:
I'm surprised there are people on TL who still dont know who Kaceytron is.


I try to forget but people keep bringing her worthless name up.


Kaceytron is amazing and you don't have a sense of humor.

Amazing might be pushing it :/
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 26 2014 02:06 GMT
#212
On September 26 2014 10:38 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 09:58 Disengaged wrote:
On September 26 2014 09:09 Ketara wrote:
I'm surprised there are people on TL who still dont know who Kaceytron is.


I try to forget but people keep bringing her worthless name up.


Kaceytron is amazing and you don't have a sense of humor.


Now thats a good joke.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 02:23:03
September 26 2014 02:22 GMT
#213
On September 26 2014 10:32 Goumindong wrote:
If you agree, give me some up votes. Off the front page already due to people not understanding game

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ldrb7F20-riotsolcrushed-comments-on-the-not-so-glorious-evolution


you've got some though Competition, front page of Reddit thinks new Vik is the bees knees
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2hfh7f/riot_you_outdid_yourself_with_viktor/
Carrilord has arrived.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 26 2014 02:34 GMT
#214
Vik's playstyle seems way different. He isn't a blow your load then back off, he can be useful in and amongst it. But that means you have to change how he is built.

I feel like you want a lot of CDR (ie.maxed) on new Viktor, considering the Q functionality. 40% puts you at like 2 and half seconds for each Q. I also feel like you want greater emphasis on defensive items. E.g. He might be a decent Abyssal Scepter carrier now. I really feel like you need to be in the thick of the fights to be useful now, so you need some resists to back up your shield.

Overall, I'm not unhappy, but more testing is needed. The W change was gooooooooooood. AA change was gooooooood. Hex core change is alright. I'm not thrilled, but it isn't an abject failure. I miss the DoT on E. I miss the Silence on Ult.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 02:35:44
September 26 2014 02:35 GMT
#215
Oh man - Got myself primetime Draven with a mystery skin. Not the best since I essentially never play draven but not bad.

Edit: Try 2: Sakura Karma eew....
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 26 2014 02:43 GMT
#216
On September 26 2014 05:45 739 wrote:
HOLY SHIT this new Sion rework :D

Seems pretty decent on paper, ult is pretty interesting, would be funny if you could actually charge half across the map, ganking machine :D


+ homeguard ghost, i wonder how far up a lane you could run...

if nothing else, it could be good for clearing minion waves?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2014 02:54 GMT
#217
On September 26 2014 08:37 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 06:54 Parnage wrote:
Not sure why people are upset about a caster having an opinion on teams. I mean Riv the 3rd get's to say pretty much anything he wants while casting and no ones pitchforking his ass. Well no more then they did before anyway..


Welcome to the internet, where a large chunk of the population thinks your opinion doesn't matter if you have a vagina.

that's sexist.
Welcome to the internet, where you're always wrong no matter your genitals.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 26 2014 03:17 GMT
#218
On September 26 2014 10:32 Goumindong wrote:
If you agree, give me some up votes. Off the front page already due to people not understanding game

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ldrb7F20-riotsolcrushed-comments-on-the-not-so-glorious-evolution

As I mentioned with your last big design post, I feel like the General LoL Official Forums are actually a less likely way to get yourself heard than Reddit. Even though they're technically "official", Reddit's popularity is going to make top-of-Reddit discussions way more visible than stuff on the official forums.
Moderator
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
September 26 2014 04:19 GMT
#219
I think it's tough to judge EDG after their groupstage performance and I'd be cautious of jumping to conclusions. If that was EDG giving it their best then sure, it looked pretty bad. But given the make-up of their group they had the option to put in a ton of effort and best case split 1-1 with SSW and then lose the tiebreaker and finish second, or coast through the group doing the bare minimum and make it through second anyway, which I think is what we saw. Group stage games in any sport can be deceptive that way. I still think the most likely semifinals is SSW/SSB and NJWS/EDG with an all-Korea finals. It is just a shame that we (most likely) won't get to see a Bo5 series between a CN team and an LCS team.
Creator of LoLTool.
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
September 26 2014 04:25 GMT
#220
i was by no means a viktor 'main' before this change, but i had certainly played him a fair amount. i think this rework is one of riots best. they took a clunky, confused kit and made something much, much better.

this kit is a HUGE improvement. he feels much more fluid to play now, and i thought it was a blast. getting an upgraded w, into an e-r felt awesome. after you blow your big combo you can run around the outskirts of a fight with q and chunk squishies for 1/3 of their health.

i also am confused about calling lich bane a trap item. i rushed it and it seemed pretty good.

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