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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 12:48:53
August 29 2014 12:44 GMT
#441
On August 29 2014 08:18 zodde wrote:
Hey 5hat, what skill order, item build, runes, etc do you use on mf? Haven't played her since rework pretty much. Could you give me a quick rundown?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/lol-strategy/319938-champion-miss-fortune?page=13

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On August 16 2014 07:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I also run 22/5/3 on MF for the mana regen. I'm slightly less tanky in all-ins but having that extra mana is better than a little more HP, in my opinion, because I use bluepill liberally after shoving and buy a ton of hp/mana pots to keep myself high.

Oh and to answer your question, yeah, I E-max in every lane that I'm ahead and only Q-max from behind. I have been thinking about switching to Q max in lane and E max after level 6 for teamfight utility. 65% slow too strong to pass up and it's like 300+ dmg aoe.

[image loading]
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I don't like brutalizer unless I'm really, really behind--the reason being that I can buy a BF sword for like 200 more, and saving for BF sword is HUGE on MF. I routinely stay on double dorans + boots/pots until I can get BF Sword instead of buying pickaxe or vamp in lane. Yeah, I play her more like an AD caster until I get phantom dancer, at which point I become a hybrid caster/adc. I take heal, always, because saving your support is important too!

Note: I have been thinking about changing from armor penetration to flat AD. It would make last hitting a LOT easier and I tend to be bad at that early on...


Only thing that's changed is I run AD instead of armor pen on that rune setup to last hit. QWEEER R>E>Q>W usually but it's matchup dependent. Double Dorans -> IE -> PD -> BT/LW with Zerks and defensive item if needed.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 12:55:20
August 29 2014 12:48 GMT
#442
On August 29 2014 21:43 Gahlo wrote:
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On August 29 2014 21:35 nafta wrote:
That doesn't make any sense.Just because some champions have something doesn't mean other should as well.

Not to mention that all pets can be targeted while the cloud can't.

Yes, they should. Unique Snowflake isn't an excuse to make something suck and stay sucking.

Azir's statues won't be targetable.

How are the statues relevant?They don't follow anyone they just auto somebody if you right click and he is in range.

Out of all of viktor's problems that is the last one on the list.Don't even think it is a problem.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 29 2014 13:02 GMT
#443
"Fine, gimme a week"
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get out of here
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2014 13:03 GMT
#444
Lol scip
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 14:46 GMT
#445
On August 29 2014 22:02 Scip wrote:
"Fine, gimme a week"
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get out of here

Well, real life came up and I ended up not playing much ranked. I am sorry I didn't live up to your standards for being good at this game. I was half-joking when I said "give me a week" but if you took it super seriously then you're absolutely right, I lost.

In other news, I'm starting my third year of five in my doctoral program, discovered that my friend's dad has over a thousand pieces of artwork that he's letting me turn into a website, began courting a girl I've been attracted to since elementary school, met up with some old friends, spent time with my great-grandmother, and have been helping my supervisor start up a counseling center at a college in Hawaii.

I'm happy with my life and where it's going, because I feel like I'm doing good in the world and living up to my potential in life, even if not in League. I hope you can honestly say the same.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 29 2014 14:50 GMT
#446
Psst.

I think Scip is making fun of how you brag about things excessively.

You're still doing it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 14:51:48
August 29 2014 14:51 GMT
#447
nobody really cares dude
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 14:53 GMT
#448
My life is dope, and I do dope shit. I just happen to have more interesting things to say about myself than most people. Sure, it sounds cocky or braggish but I'm just telling you about the things that I do. I'm confident about who I am and what I do. If you take it otherwise, well, that might be your own personal insecurity.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2014 14:55 GMT
#449
On August 29 2014 23:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
My life is dope, and I do dope shit. I just happen to have more interesting things to say about myself than most people. Sure, it sounds cocky or braggish but I'm just telling you about the things that I do. I'm confident about who I am and what I do. If you take it otherwise, well, that might be your own personal insecurity.

More like you are bringing up things nobody asked about and you sound insecure.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 14:56 GMT
#450
I'll just leave it at that, then. Sorry for disrupting the harmony of GD after being called out?

I honestly don't understand why you are mad at me for responding to a post directed at me.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 29 2014 15:00 GMT
#451
From where I'm standing it seems Scip made funneh joke and you took it way, way too seriously.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 15:02 GMT
#452
It just grates on my nerves to constantly be insulted by Scip and Slayer in GD, which probably makes me take their posts directed at me a little more personally than if, say, Fakesteve did it.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 29 2014 15:04 GMT
#453
On August 29 2014 21:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 08:18 zodde wrote:
Hey 5hat, what skill order, item build, runes, etc do you use on mf? Haven't played her since rework pretty much. Could you give me a quick rundown?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/lol-strategy/319938-champion-miss-fortune?page=13

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2014 07:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I also run 22/5/3 on MF for the mana regen. I'm slightly less tanky in all-ins but having that extra mana is better than a little more HP, in my opinion, because I use bluepill liberally after shoving and buy a ton of hp/mana pots to keep myself high.

Oh and to answer your question, yeah, I E-max in every lane that I'm ahead and only Q-max from behind. I have been thinking about switching to Q max in lane and E max after level 6 for teamfight utility. 65% slow too strong to pass up and it's like 300+ dmg aoe.

[image loading]
[image loading]

I don't like brutalizer unless I'm really, really behind--the reason being that I can buy a BF sword for like 200 more, and saving for BF sword is HUGE on MF. I routinely stay on double dorans + boots/pots until I can get BF Sword instead of buying pickaxe or vamp in lane. Yeah, I play her more like an AD caster until I get phantom dancer, at which point I become a hybrid caster/adc. I take heal, always, because saving your support is important too!

Note: I have been thinking about changing from armor penetration to flat AD. It would make last hitting a LOT easier and I tend to be bad at that early on...


Only thing that's changed is I run AD instead of armor pen on that rune setup to last hit. QWEEER R>E>Q>W usually but it's matchup dependent. Double Dorans -> IE -> PD -> BT/LW with Zerks and defensive item if needed.


Thanks I probably should have checked the champion threads before asking you...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 15:24:14
August 29 2014 15:16 GMT
#454
On August 29 2014 23:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I'm confident about who I am and what I do. If you take it otherwise, well, that might be your own personal insecurity.

No, irrespective of anyone's own insecurity, it's generally pretty normal for people who spend overly much time talking about how good their own lives are or how awesome they are will be seen as being arrogant and dickish, or at the very least, overly prideful.

Humility didn't exactly become a virtue overnight.

On August 30 2014 00:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It just grates on my nerves to constantly be insulted by Scip and Slayer in GD, which probably makes me take their posts directed at me a little more personally than if, say, Fakesteve did it.

Scip and Slayer insult plenty of people dude. They just tend to do it more to people who have high opinions of themselves thanks to their European cynicism.

EDIT: As an aside, if a less regular/veteran poster made a post like your initial one bragging about being top 100 MFs in the world in GD, I probably would have warned them for not posting it in the brag thread.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 29 2014 15:25 GMT
#455
On August 29 2014 19:21 GolemMadness wrote:
Not entirely sure how I feel about this Viktor rework yet. I don't like how they're turning augment: death into Velkoz's W and giving the enemy more time to react to W sounds a bit suspect given how hard landing the stun can be already. The Q and passive changes are definitely interesting though.


I really like the Q change direction. But i don't think the added power of Q is going to make up for what look like straight nerfs to W and E. W already has a 1.5 second (plus cast animation time!) window before you're stunned. I am not sure that needs to be extended.

It just looks like the only way Viktor will win a teamfight now is if he can get an augmented W into augmented Laser on top of his ult. So his powerspike is item delayed even further and relies even more on good timing and placement.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 15:40 GMT
#456
On August 30 2014 00:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 23:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I'm confident about who I am and what I do. If you take it otherwise, well, that might be your own personal insecurity.

No, irrespective of anyone's own insecurity, it's generally pretty normal for people who spend overly much time talking about how good their own lives are or how awesome they are will be seen as being arrogant and dickish, or at the very least, overly prideful.

Humility didn't exactly become a virtue overnight.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 00:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It just grates on my nerves to constantly be insulted by Scip and Slayer in GD, which probably makes me take their posts directed at me a little more personally than if, say, Fakesteve did it.

Scip and Slayer insult plenty of people dude. They just tend to do it more to people who have high opinions of themselves thanks to their European cynicism.

EDIT: As an aside, if a less regular/veteran poster made a post like your initial one bragging about being top 100 MFs in the world in GD, I probably would have warned them for not posting it in the brag thread.

I'm of the opinion that constantly insulting people is worse than making "So I happened to notice that I'm top 100 MF world" posts. Perhaps as a moderator your opinion is different, and I respect that difference. I don't expect any special treatment, and that works both ways. If your policy is to let people insult other people in GD without repercussion because they're from Europe while handing out warnings to people for posting in the wrong thread, then that's fine.

With that being said, please ban this account for 3 months. I obviously should take a break.

User was temp banned for this post.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 29 2014 15:42 GMT
#457
man it's cool if you say you're the top 100 mf according to that chart or whatever that's fine, but like i know more about your academic career and shit then I should have any right to. I've also seen the same pictures of beta league of you playing with dyrus or whatever more times than I can count.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#458
On August 30 2014 00:25 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 19:21 GolemMadness wrote:
Not entirely sure how I feel about this Viktor rework yet. I don't like how they're turning augment: death into Velkoz's W and giving the enemy more time to react to W sounds a bit suspect given how hard landing the stun can be already. The Q and passive changes are definitely interesting though.


I really like the Q change direction. But i don't think the added power of Q is going to make up for what look like straight nerfs to W and E. W already has a 1.5 second (plus cast animation time!) window before you're stunned. I am not sure that needs to be extended.

It just looks like the only way Viktor will win a teamfight now is if he can get an augmented W into augmented Laser on top of his ult. So his powerspike is item delayed even further and relies even more on good timing and placement.


To be fair, teamfighting with Viktor has literally never been an issue. R has always completely blown people up. You land W sounds like you're E will do more damage, and you'll be able to follow it up with Q damage without being in melee range. Sounds like a net teamfight buff.


This change is going to make him so popular though. QQ.

His Q being long range will make him amazing.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 29 2014 15:50 GMT
#459
On August 30 2014 00:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 00:16 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2014 23:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I'm confident about who I am and what I do. If you take it otherwise, well, that might be your own personal insecurity.

No, irrespective of anyone's own insecurity, it's generally pretty normal for people who spend overly much time talking about how good their own lives are or how awesome they are will be seen as being arrogant and dickish, or at the very least, overly prideful.

Humility didn't exactly become a virtue overnight.

On August 30 2014 00:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It just grates on my nerves to constantly be insulted by Scip and Slayer in GD, which probably makes me take their posts directed at me a little more personally than if, say, Fakesteve did it.

Scip and Slayer insult plenty of people dude. They just tend to do it more to people who have high opinions of themselves thanks to their European cynicism.

EDIT: As an aside, if a less regular/veteran poster made a post like your initial one bragging about being top 100 MFs in the world in GD, I probably would have warned them for not posting it in the brag thread.

I'm of the opinion that constantly insulting people is worse than making "So I happened to notice that I'm top 100 MF world" posts. Perhaps as a moderator your opinion is different, and I respect that difference. I don't expect any special treatment, and that works both ways. If your policy is to let people insult other people in GD without repercussion because they're from Europe while handing out warnings to people for posting in the wrong thread, then that's fine.

With that being said, please ban this account for 3 months. I obviously should take a break.


This is honestly a pretty fair post. I mean, the reason why Scip is bugging 5hit in the first place is because he's bragging all the time in GD and not being warned for it. If he'd been warned for it he probably would have stopped and Scip wouldn't have felt the need to be all Roffles to the rescue or whatever.

Trying to moderate by harassing people is wrong, but for some reason people feel the need to do it when actual moderation is, for whatever reason, not happening.

Also, 5hit, you do brag too much. I like you, I think everybody likes you, but tone it down man.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 29 2014 15:52 GMT
#460
Thanks, Ketara. I'm going to take my 3 months and contemplate that.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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