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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
always a good strat | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On June 13 2014 00:47 arb wrote: Tbh i always buy a ward and keep it in my inventory and dont use it, so if someone asks why no one is warding i will act like some of the wards on the map are mine and ive been actively using them always a good strat Until the day you play with someone who knows you can check who put down they ward by checking it's buffs, then you look like a retard #worth | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On June 13 2014 00:57 Dusty wrote: Until the day you play with someone who knows you can check who put down they ward by checking it's buffs, then you look like a retard #worth Wait really?! No more "is that your pink" "shit idk i thought it was your pink"? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 13 2014 00:57 Dusty wrote: Until the day you play with someone who knows you can check who put down they ward by checking it's buffs, then you look like a retard #worth "oh i guess he replaced it after it wore off, GJ NAMEHERE" On June 13 2014 01:21 GrandInquisitor wrote: Wait really?! No more "is that your pink" "shit idk i thought it was your pink"? Been like that at least since sightstone, probably further back i just can't remember 100%. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Have other people experienced this? Edit: This is all from an ADC perspective. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 13 2014 01:41 RagequitBM wrote: It's kinda weird. I've noticed I have to adjust my playstyle based on what league I'm playing in. When I solo queue in silver/gold I just go full retard aggro and go 10 - 0 and mega hard carry games easily. Then I try that in plat and I'm the one who gets stomped. So I play a bit more balanced in lane when duoing with Diamond friends, and just slowly edge out a CS lead and just outperform the other ADC in teamfights. But if I do that in Silver I have a dramatically lower win rate. Maybe I'm just getting carried in the higher elo games? Have other people experienced this? Edit: This is all from an ADC perspective. People who are lower elo don't have any understanding of "how not to die". This is why hyper aggression is profitable. Once people learn how not to die, they can begin to learn how to counter that blind aggression. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Though in the end it all comes down to exploiting mistakes. Players in silver make more mistakes, so you can take more advantage of it. Players in Plat solve many mistakes, but have different mistakes that require a different style to exploit. Idk | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 12 2014 12:34 cLutZ wrote: 1. Someone has to. 2. They have low gold incomes, it is a slot-inefficient item for pure stats. 3. They typically also have poorly scaling spells. 4. Warding is dangerous, you want your most expendable team member doing it. This is entirely unconvincing besides the fact that supports are not expendable and don't have poorly scaling spells(certainly not lower scaling than most top laners) there is the problem that supports need early power just as much as top laners do. We can also make the same list for top lane 1) Sometimes has to 2) They typically buy sightstone early when slot inefficiency doesn't matter 3) They typically also have poorly scaling spells 4) Warding is dangerous, you want your most tanky member of the team doing it. There is basically no reason that supports buy sightstone compared to any other role. As it stands the champions who should be building sightstone are those who need health the most, and can deal with having a less efficient tank item. The list of champions that that encompasses is 'tanks'. I see nothing wrong with, in the lategame, having a second tank build a sightstone to bring your number of wards to 6 with full builds. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 13 2014 01:41 RagequitBM wrote: It's kinda weird. I've noticed I have to adjust my playstyle based on what league I'm playing in. When I solo queue in silver/gold I just go full retard aggro and go 10 - 0 and mega hard carry games easily. Then I try that in plat and I'm the one who gets stomped. So I play a bit more balanced in lane when duoing with Diamond friends, and just slowly edge out a CS lead and just outperform the other ADC in teamfights. But if I do that in Silver I have a dramatically lower win rate. Maybe I'm just getting carried in the higher elo games? Have other people experienced this? Edit: This is all from an ADC perspective. You aren't good enough for it to work. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
They are the only ones with the available time to ward properly. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Of course I need to be winning for this to happen. x') | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Doesn't work for players in Challenger smurfing either. They just play more balanced so that they can zone the other ADC completely. Then get fed off of the starved player later on. I'm not that good yet. But full retard aggro doesn't work no matter how good you are at a certain level. Which is what I'm saying. Though thinking about it more, full retard aggro works because silver and gold players make the mistake of greed putting them in a position to just die to it. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 13 2014 02:02 RagequitBM wrote: Doesn't work for players in Challenger smurfing either. They just play more balanced so that they can zone the other ADC completely. Then get fed off of the starved player later on. I'm not that good yet. But full retard aggro doesn't work no matter how good you are at a certain level. Which is what I'm saying. Though thinking about it more, full retard aggro works because silver and gold players make the mistake of greed putting them in a position to just die to it. Lol well sure you cant go 10/0 by 12 minutes but you can still get big advantages.Just because you don't know how to doesn't mean it doesn't work.Difference is junglers are smarter at higher elo. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 13 2014 01:55 Goumindong wrote: This is entirely unconvincing besides the fact that supports are not expendable and don't have poorly scaling spells(certainly not lower scaling than most top laners) there is the problem that supports need early power just as much as top laners do. We can also make the same list for top lane 1) Sometimes has to 2) They typically buy sightstone early when slot inefficiency doesn't matter 3) They typically also have poorly scaling spells 4) Warding is dangerous, you want your most tanky member of the team doing it. There is basically no reason that supports buy sightstone compared to any other role. As it stands the champions who should be building sightstone are those who need health the most, and can deal with having a less efficient tank item. The list of champions that that encompasses is 'tanks'. I see nothing wrong with, in the lategame, having a second tank build a sightstone to bring your number of wards to 6 with full builds. Except, your top will lose 1v1 early if they go for sightstone, so your 2 is misleading. Someone also pointed out that midgame the support has the best chance to roam and ward. Not that a late second sight stone is always a bad idea, but you can't act like there are not significant trade offs. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On June 13 2014 01:41 RagequitBM wrote: It's kinda weird. I've noticed I have to adjust my playstyle based on what league I'm playing in. When I solo queue in silver/gold I just go full retard aggro and go 10 - 0 and mega hard carry games easily. Then I try that in plat and I'm the one who gets stomped. So I play a bit more balanced in lane when duoing with Diamond friends, and just slowly edge out a CS lead and just outperform the other ADC in teamfights. But if I do that in Silver I have a dramatically lower win rate. Maybe I'm just getting carried in the higher elo games? Have other people experienced this? Edit: This is all from an ADC perspective. just because they are silver league doesnt mean they cant hit buttons in roughly correct orders. if you arent going to punish their crapness early its only right you cant carry, you shouldnt magicly get a free infinity edge for being diamond in your head, you have to prove it every game. On June 13 2014 02:01 Alaric wrote: I ward the river and enemy jungle whenever I roam as the offlaner. Of course I need to be winning for this to happen. x') this is my favorite situation, your team has been pinned at your base for 10 mins trying to draw the game out and hope the other team throws. suddenly in chat "omfg ward baron". 10/10 fun times for all. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On June 13 2014 02:12 turdburgler wrote: just because they are silver league doesnt mean they cant hit buttons in roughly correct orders. if you arent going to punish their crapness early its only right you cant carry, you shouldnt magicly get a free infinity edge for being diamond in your head, you have to prove it every game. In my head I'm a Bronze V player. There is no one who is harder on myself than myself when I play. And that's not what I'm talking about. I do easily carry Silver. I'm just saying from what I watch on streams, what I hear from friends, and what I experience myself. The same way to carry Silver is not the same way to carry Plat. I just find talking about this kinda stuff interesting so I brought it up. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Do you honestly believe a d1 player can't just go full retard and smash average diamond players?Like sure he won't start 10/0 probably but you can still carry even with only 1/2 kills in lane.Saying full retard aggression doesn't work is just wrong.Just watch like every single draven main and see how well full retard aggression works. | ||
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