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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 08:32:29
May 26 2014 08:20 GMT
#421
I had Woolite has a Flex because I didn't feel like having a Flex top (partly because of what people said here). Zion didn't do that bad but Woolite ended up very profitable, XWX who I drafted a bit daftly thinking about the ricing then facepalming "dude they'd all rush the ADs and known mids like Bjergsen and Hai, it was a safe round 2 pick!" and he ended up being a Yasuo monster. Then Tabzzz overperforming.

This week with Zion, Crumbzz, Balls, XWX all in my line-up (starters or subs) I feel pretty boned because they all play each other, C9 seemed to be underperforming, and Dig's game vs Curse destroyed all hope of them actually stepping up consistently, so I have no idea who to pick. I'd counter my own picks by being forced to have losing players in at least one position to Julio's monsters anyway. After TSM's game vs EG I'd have picked Zion over Balls without hesitation, but then Dig went and rolled over too. Ugh.
Edit: damn, even in EU. I have Tabzz but he plays against SK and Millenium (depends if the latter keep their form up), Jesiz but he plays against Roccat and Alliance, and Jree but he plays against Alliance and Fnatic. It's not so much the individual players this week I think, than the match-ups that are pretty harsh for me. And Julio's line-up is pretty stable with 2x C9 and 2x Fnatic (who have a free win against Gambit this week). Even if Fnatic and C9 underperform I think he could still win due to how all my picks shoot each other in the foot.

I'll keep Woolite as my Flex pick because playing against SHC and 1-3 unimpressive Roccat seems like a decent week for him to confirm his results. SK plays alliance so Jesiz will sit on the bench.
With CLG underperforming, maybe I should have kept Gleeb, TSM still firmer than Millenium over several weeks. Too late, Capped grabbed him.

Also, dream team of Week 1 in TL LoL Sucks:

Dyrus, Amazing, Kerp, Vasilii, Gleebglarbu, Jesiz and LMQ, which is 636,51 points combined.

Didn't Kevin beat Dyrus? He had something like 84 points under his belt and I don't remember Dyrus getting that many kills. And did Gleeb perform that well too?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 08:26:35
May 26 2014 08:22 GMT
#422
Gleeb got 73, dyrus got 83 while kevin got 81.
Looking to next week I've decided to replace vander with mor, LMQ actually has a relatively tough week but I'm a bit down on roccat atm. Considering replacing shiphtur with selfie though, SHC's got the easiest week possible of zombie gambit and youngbuck's talent agency while dig's got the hardest week possible of TSM and our glorious Chinese overlords. It's definitely a risk because of selfie's inconsistent play but I'm just not sure if dignicoast are up for it yet.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 26 2014 09:22 GMT
#423
My biggest decision this week is out of the three (Kev1n, Dyrus, and Amazing), which two should I start. I'm going with SK over LMQ this week due to "easier" schedule". The other roles are more or less locked in (I'm not planning to run pr0lly over Jesiz atm).

TSM - CLG dig
Dyrus - Seraph Zion
Amazing - dexter Crumbz

MIL - All Fn
Kev1n - Wickd sOAZ

Thoughts? + Show Spoiler [Going with... atm] +
Tentatively going Dyrus/Amazing after talking with JBright
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 26 2014 09:35 GMT
#424
On paper Kev1n would be a good choice, especially against soAZ, and Wickd tends to have... weird champion picks. However if there's going to have lane swaps it'll negate laning. The main issue is that Millenium performed so much better than they were expected to that it's still a wildcard, while Dignitas showed that their good results may have been a fluke and riding an underperforming C9's momentum, and even TSM played flaky.
Amazing's a jungler, so depnding on whether they give him Kha'Zix or Elise, his kda (esp. kills) may vary a lot. On the other hand Dyrus' rarely had very high kda either unless given something like Shyvana and late game teamfights.

I'd still go with "against adjusting Seraph and inconsistent Dig" rather than bet on Millenium against a performing Alliance. Plus Fnatic will wake up at one point or another and remember than since it's EU they can win it all and although I'd be surprised if they pulled it off at soon as week 2 you never know.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 26 2014 09:47 GMT
#425
Thanks Alaric, I'm personally banking on TSM being able to beat CLG before they can fully adapt to Seraph in the top lane (hey, I play Fantasy with head, not heart >_>)
MIL looks to have the tougher schedule despite Kev1n outscoring both Dyrus and Amazing in Week 1.

Let me know if anyone else has some good insight for me, ty.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 10:09:45
May 26 2014 10:04 GMT
#426
vasili pls carry me more kkthx bby


only roster move i'm thinking about is swapping out roccat for fnatic
while roccat is best team world easy poland strong, SK is probably going to win against them. Fnatic can easily beat mill if they stop being shit, so they might go 2-0.

fnatic are also more struggle, so team-wise that might mean more points cause longer/throwier games mean towers drags and barons. only downside is soaz going to feed fb with his patented "squishy mages that overextend against a laneswap" strategy.


As for my matchup, kevin is going to have like twice seraphs points so that's a sad day, but sven is going to outscore amazing basically guaranteed
overpow is best gg easy
vasili king
yolostar is risky but if fnatic win he might keep up in points with support-of-king
is TSM's opponents ban thresh wildturtle is going to feed all day so I hope that happens, but if it doesn't (which is likely) he's going to beat celaver
both roccat and fnatic teams are going to outscore alliance who have a pretty hard (for them) week. They're also better teams so there's that. Too bad teams are worth so little.

Overall not feeling too good about it, it's probably going to mainly come down to TSM's performance. Thank god they're a trash team so I might even win. Maybe.

seraph is dead weight right now but that's ok once he learns how to english he's gonna be korean so later half of the split should get better.

On May 26 2014 18:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Thanks Alaric, I'm personally banking on TSM being able to beat CLG before they can fully adapt to Seraph in the top lane (hey, I play Fantasy with head, not heart >_>)
MIL looks to have the tougher schedule despite Kev1n outscoring both Dyrus and Amazing in Week 1.

Let me know if anyone else has some good insight for me, ty.

I'll put it like this, kevin even had crazy (for a top) KDA's when mill had araneaeaae and was complete shitgarbage last split.
Now that they're not complete shitgarbage that's only going to be better.
What I'm saying is he had good fantasy scores even when his team was absolutely crushed every game, I don't think hard matchups are going to affect him too much.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 26 2014 11:32 GMT
#427
Damn, Capped is going hard with trades, holy shit.
Impaler is biggest wildcard in whole EU, i'm scared now that SHC is going to stomp 2 games this week and Impaler will carry singlehandedly ;_;

But anyway, i'm not going with Kerp this week and wanna bank on Pobelter, boy usually performs hard against Curse + they have compLexity.
CLG are going to have coL as well, so if shit isn't real and it was C9 fluke, i'm at least going to get some points from my guys. Also, TSM are very slow now, so if CLG and TSM are going to play long game, there is good chance that points will be ok.

Still keeping Creaton though, Millenium can destroy Fnatic but i'm not risking with Millenium duo because [A] will most likely destroy {M} and i have to avoid conflicts in team.

But Capped having InnoX and Impaler makes me feel weird.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 11:47:42
May 26 2014 11:47 GMT
#428
My brother is so serious about this (4 man non-money league) that he's offering me $50 if I trade him Bjergsen for xPeke.

God damn it he's an idiot, but also thank you free money that I desperately need.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 26 2014 12:12 GMT
#429
Alright, anyone who's part of my league, we'll be doing drafting later tonight ~ 9 PM EST.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 26 2014 12:19 GMT
#430
Won in 3 of my 6 leagues, ofc lost in the TL one. C9 cost me so much this week. :/

My ESL Fantasy league went much better though, ended up in top 1.5% of the ladder.

Generally I have to say the Riot Fantasy is pretty boring thhough. Almost no trading and you have to make maybe one decision per week about 1 substitute you might bring from your bench.
Off-season = best season
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 13:36:08
May 26 2014 13:35 GMT
#431
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 13:54:16
May 26 2014 13:53 GMT
#432
So I have two roster decisions to make for my match against Alaric (who should be easy to beat because he sucks).

1. Soaz (vs Gambit, Millenium) or SK's Fredy (vs Alliance, Roccat). Fredy scored way more points so far and is always solid but he has tougher opponents than Soaz. Soaz on the other hand played like garbage in the first two games. I tend towards Soaz atm.

2. LMQ (vs Dig, C9) or Dig (vs LMQ, TSM). Both have tough opponents and I have no idea who will come out ahead. Something to consider is that Alaric has two LMQ players so starting LMQ could cushion if Xiaweixiao goes crazy again.


Any input?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 14:23:27
May 26 2014 14:22 GMT
#433
On May 26 2014 22:53 Don_Julio wrote:
So I have two roster decisions to make for my match against Alaric (who should be easy to beat because he sucks).

1. Soaz (vs Gambit, Millenium) or SK's Fredy (vs Alliance, Roccat). Fredy scored way more points so far and is always solid but he has tougher opponents than Soaz. Soaz on the other hand played like garbage in the first two games. I tend towards Soaz atm.

2. LMQ (vs Dig, C9) or Dig (vs LMQ, TSM). Both have tough opponents and I have no idea who will come out ahead. Something to consider is that Alaric has two LMQ players so starting LMQ could cushion if Xiaweixiao goes crazy again.


Any input?


Fredy will be shut out by [A] most likely and Roccat usually matches well against SK, so i would have put sOAZ who tends to put up bigger numbers against Gambit usually than against anyone else.

LMQ are projected to lose 2 games, but honestly, i have no idea. I would have go with LMQ most likely, because they will most likely score more first bloods than Dignitas and so on. On the other hand, you have 2 C9 players, so if LMQ suddenly dumps them into ground, you will lose more than you get.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 26 2014 15:13 GMT
#434
You should start with sOAZ and Dig imoimo. :3
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
May 26 2014 16:06 GMT
#435
Hi guys,

You guys helped me out a ton last week! Ended up losing by a measly 4 points unfortunately. (was up by 30 going into C9 vs CLG. I had C9, my opponent had Hai, Aphromoo and the CLG ADC).

Anyway, made for an exciting match, and I owe a lot of it to the Impaler jungle pick that you guys advised.

My jungler choice is my main question this week too. Options are IWillDominate, Impaler, and Airwaks
Poll: Jungler

Impaler (3)
 
100%

IWillDominate (0)
 
0%

Airwaks (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler

(Vote): IWillDominate
(Vote): Airwaks
(Vote): Impaler



Also for ADC, I could keep Woolite or try the new EG ADC Altec. Thoughts on that?
Poll: ADC

Altec (3)
 
75%

Woolite (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: ADC

(Vote): Woolite
(Vote): Altec



Thanks a ton guys!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 16:19:15
May 26 2014 16:16 GMT
#436
On May 27 2014 01:06 TheDougler wrote:
Hi guys,

You guys helped me out a ton last week! Ended up losing by a measly 4 points unfortunately. (was up by 30 going into C9 vs CLG. I had C9, my opponent had Hai, Aphromoo and the CLG ADC).

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyway, made for an exciting match, and I owe a lot of it to the Impaler jungle pick that you guys advised.

My jungler choice is my main question this week too. Options are IWillDominate, Impaler, and Airwaks
Poll: Jungler

Impaler (3)
 
100%

IWillDominate (0)
 
0%

Airwaks (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler

(Vote): IWillDominate
(Vote): Airwaks
(Vote): Impaler



Also for ADC, I could keep Woolite or try the new EG ADC Altec. Thoughts on that?
Poll: ADC

Altec (3)
 
75%

Woolite (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: ADC

(Vote): Woolite
(Vote): Altec



Thanks a ton guys!

I'd either go impaler and altec or woolite and airwaks.

Impaler is probably the safer jungler, and since shc and cw are playing, impaler and woolite would be a bit of a silly combination, same with dominate and altec. EG also have pretty much the easiest week possible, with crs and clb. Even if they lose, altec was playing decently before, and this will probably be one of his best weeks.

Both CW and SHC have relatively easy opponents (Gambit and roccat) outside of each other, so it basically comes down to whether you want to all in on CW not sucking, or spread your bets with EG and SHC both having pretty "easy" weeks. I'd suggest impaler/altec, altec is probably better then woolite (at least compared to their opponents this week), so i'd only pick woolite if you're all inning with CW.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 26 2014 16:19 GMT
#437
Thanks Wondeful.

On May 27 2014 00:13 Alaric wrote:
You should start with sOAZ and Dig imoimo. :3


Not you Alaric!

On May 27 2014 01:06 TheDougler wrote:
Hi guys,

You guys helped me out a ton last week! Ended up losing by a measly 4 points unfortunately. (was up by 30 going into C9 vs CLG. I had C9, my opponent had Hai, Aphromoo and the CLG ADC).

Anyway, made for an exciting match, and I owe a lot of it to the Impaler jungle pick that you guys advised.

My jungler choice is my main question this week too. Options are IWillDominate, Impaler, and Airwaks
Poll: Jungler

Impaler (3)
 
100%

IWillDominate (0)
 
0%

Airwaks (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler

(Vote): IWillDominate
(Vote): Airwaks
(Vote): Impaler



Also for ADC, I could keep Woolite or try the new EG ADC Altec. Thoughts on that?
Poll: ADC

Altec (3)
 
75%

Woolite (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: ADC

(Vote): Woolite
(Vote): Altec



Thanks a ton guys!

I'd stay away from the C. Wolves for now. I think they suck. EG is bad but they somehow still get relatively close games and have their easiest week for the whole split. I slightly tend towards Altec but both your options suck.

For the jungler I'd go with Impaler. I think he's a good player and SHC has good matchups this week. C9 will be angry and totally destroy Curse in a short, brutal stomp. Dominate could post good numbers against EG but that's still one good matchup less than Impaler has.
WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
May 26 2014 16:37 GMT
#438
XwX for Amazing/Jesiz and Yellowstar Think it is a good trade?

Currently I have Svenskeren/Overpow and Nyph, I feel like this is a long term investment, LMQ is going to get figured out by the top three of NA.
"When you come at the King, you best not miss"
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 17:22:15
May 26 2014 17:21 GMT
#439
On May 27 2014 01:19 Don_Julio wrote:
Thanks Wondeful.



Wonderful.

On May 27 2014 01:37 WiseBagus wrote:
XwX for Amazing/Jesiz and Yellowstar Think it is a good trade?

Currently I have Svenskeren/Overpow and Nyph, I feel like this is a long term investment, LMQ is going to get figured out by the top three of NA.


You're trading XWX for Amazing/Jesiz? No.
Amazing is one-hit pony, TSM blows and once they hit formidable opponents and not Curse, EG and coL, they will just get wrecked most likely, if Seraph doesn't go on tilt again and Dignitas doesn't throw.
And Jesiz might be good pick for 4-games week, but not for 2, SK wins when CP carries, not when Jesiz plays something but Nidalee/Ziggs/Lulu.
Overpow is good choice, he puts numbers in wins and when Roccat loses, you get nothing.

On May 27 2014 01:06 TheDougler wrote:
Hi guys,

You guys helped me out a ton last week! Ended up losing by a measly 4 points unfortunately. (was up by 30 going into C9 vs CLG. I had C9, my opponent had Hai, Aphromoo and the CLG ADC).

Anyway, made for an exciting match, and I owe a lot of it to the Impaler jungle pick that you guys advised.

My jungler choice is my main question this week too. Options are IWillDominate, Impaler, and Airwaks
Poll: Jungler

Impaler (3)
 
100%

IWillDominate (0)
 
0%

Airwaks (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler

(Vote): IWillDominate
(Vote): Airwaks
(Vote): Impaler



Also for ADC, I could keep Woolite or try the new EG ADC Altec. Thoughts on that?
Poll: ADC

Altec (3)
 
75%

Woolite (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: ADC

(Vote): Woolite
(Vote): Altec



Thanks a ton guys!


For this week - Altec for sure, EG are playing 2 worst teams in the league.
For jungle, it's hard but Airwaks doesn't seem a good choice for fantasy, he's like Snoopeh in playstyle, sacrificing everything. It's good when CW are winning, but they will be lock for 8th place this season most likely.

Impaler is good for fantasy because he goes big in wins and often it's worth to get 1 big win and be irrelevant in 2-3 games after it.
+ Impaler is playing Airwaks, i can only assume that SHC are stronger plus they're against Gambit, and Gambit are kinda bad right now. But IWD was irrelevant whole week, even if he got his 58.81 points.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 18:09:45
May 26 2014 18:08 GMT
#440
Poll: Jungler?

Cyanide? (3)
 
100%

KottenX? (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler?

(Vote): Cyanide?
(Vote): KottenX?


I figure Jungler is going to be the position that, like support, is going to massively depend on it's team. KottenX out gained Cyanide by a decent amount, but it was also coupled by Fnatic playing poorly and [M] laners going off. It's too early yet to see if Fnatic is being Fnatic or if the royal purple rampage is legit Alladin with a genie. Currently I'm favoring Cyanide because of an easier schedule (Gambit/[M] vs Alliance/Fnatic.)
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