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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 18:14:36
May 26 2014 18:13 GMT
#441
On May 27 2014 02:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're trading XWX for Amazing/Jesiz? No.
Amazing is one-hit pony, TSM blows and once they hit formidable opponents and not Curse, EG and coL, they will just get wrecked most likely, if Seraph doesn't go on tilt again and Dignitas doesn't throw.
And Jesiz might be good pick for 4-games week, but not for 2, SK wins when CP carries, not when Jesiz plays something but Nidalee/Ziggs/Lulu.

I would probably also keep XWX. Especially as mid players are usually better on flex than junglers. But Amazing is surely not a one-trick pony. He is someone that will almost always have a good score, even if his team doesnt do well. That is exactly the kind of player you want for Fantasy stuff.
If we apply the Fantasy scoring to last season Amazing had the best score out of all EU junglers. And that in a team that did not do well. He also had much more points than his adc or mid palyer. And the last playday he again had more points than any other jungler, NA and EU.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 18:47:56
May 26 2014 18:43 GMT
#442
On May 27 2014 03:13 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 02:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're trading XWX for Amazing/Jesiz? No.
Amazing is one-hit pony, TSM blows and once they hit formidable opponents and not Curse, EG and coL, they will just get wrecked most likely, if Seraph doesn't go on tilt again and Dignitas doesn't throw.
And Jesiz might be good pick for 4-games week, but not for 2, SK wins when CP carries, not when Jesiz plays something but Nidalee/Ziggs/Lulu.

I would probably also keep XWX. Especially as mid players are usually better on flex than junglers. But Amazing is surely not a one-trick pony. He is someone that will almost always have a good score, even if his team doesnt do well. That is exactly the kind of player you want for Fantasy stuff.
If we apply the Fantasy scoring to last season Amazing had the best score out of all EU junglers. And that in a team that did not do well. He also had much more points than his adc or mid palyer. And the last playday he again had more points than any other jungler, NA and EU.


Good score for fantasy is like when Amazing finishes with 8-1-15 against Curse, hitting immense numbers. You can't have it forever. You expect in 2-games weeks something like 25-40 points by jungle and something like 60-80 in 4 weeks, his result with 92.76 is just by far more than anyone else in our League at least. Shook got 83,67 and no other jungler was even close to 80.
+ Amazing in Wolves had those off weeks, when he was losing all will to live and couldn't do anything. Also noone can guarantee that any other team won't run this 3 jungle bans + jungle fp.
Last season Amazing had those kills because his sololaners were just impotent to do anything useful and his ad was blowing for 45 minutes every game.

I don't say that Amazing is bad, jungle picks in general are very volatile, you can't expect them to score shittons when team blows. God, look at Meteos. He got what, 57.50? And he's usually one who puts numbers even when C9 blows.

On May 27 2014 03:08 Gahlo wrote:
Poll: Jungler?

Cyanide? (3)
 
100%

KottenX? (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Jungler?

(Vote): Cyanide?
(Vote): KottenX?


I figure Jungler is going to be the position that, like support, is going to massively depend on it's team. KottenX out gained Cyanide by a decent amount, but it was also coupled by Fnatic playing poorly and [M] laners going off. It's too early yet to see if Fnatic is being Fnatic or if the royal purple rampage is legit Alladin with a genie. Currently I'm favoring Cyanide because of an easier schedule (Gambit/[M] vs Alliance/Fnatic.)


I'm not sold on KottenX at all, he puts up numbers when Kerp rolls and i'm not expecting Kerp to blow everyone this week because i will take Froggen/Shook over any duo in EU and Jesiz will play something like Lulu, so it's not really champion you're gonna blow up.
And Cyanide, with all hate he gets and with being just European version of TOO with better smiting which made him famous, he was literally the one guy in Fnatic who was looking at least, legitimately LCS level last week. Okay, Rekkles was looking like that as well, but he played utterly bad in comparison to how he can.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 19:18:01
May 26 2014 19:16 GMT
#443
I've decided after musing over it and observing the upcoming week to swap shiphtur for selfie. I'm aware that even in dignicoast's loss shiphtur still got a decent score but I've decided to go hard or go home, because when SHC wins it's because selfie is doing well and against niq and cowtard I think selfie can go carry mode this week.
Now that I've done this selfie is going to fucking choke and go 0-20 this week -_-
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#444
SHC got one of the supposedly easiest weeks. Dig not. Would also decide for Selfie.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 26 2014 20:37 GMT
#445
On May 27 2014 04:16 Fusilero wrote:
I've decided after musing over it and observing the upcoming week to swap shiphtur for selfie. I'm aware that even in dignicoast's loss shiphtur still got a decent score but I've decided to go hard or go home, because when SHC wins it's because selfie is doing well and against niq and cowtard I think selfie can go carry mode this week.
Now that I've done this selfie is going to fucking choke and go 0-20 this week -_-


Try hard or die trying.
Anyway, i feel like going 0-2 won't be gg, 0-3 though might be hard to recover.
Damn, CLG-TSM will just decide this week for me ;_;. Never thought that i will care about result of derby because of fantasy as well.

Let's go for predictions.

Our Shibe Doge should win this week because Dandel most likely is going to self-destruct because of Roccat-SK, tilting Seraph and Fnatic chasing kills against Gambit instead of objectives. Even WT going 0-6 against CLG won't kill Shibe.

Other doge from Denmark shouldn't be self-destructed as well, because even if Dyrus feeds against CLG, he still has Dignitas to recover and qtpie + Link put numbers almost every game, despite of overall result. But Kot has ridiculous double punch with Froggen and MrRallez, so if SHC goes hard this week, Rallez will just get more points than some teams overall + finally benching Jankos for Altec is never a bad idea, so i probably go with Kot here. Or if my previous statement is right and Fnatic are going to chase kills, then Rekkles will carry dog alone.

Also, if my previous statement is right, then C9 should beat LMQ. And it already means that Westrice will really come from Wonderland to carry in League of Legends and not in Smite. It really seems that there is a good chance that every team in league will be 1-1 after 2 rounds because i don't believe in my chances against team with Impaler and InnoX this week.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
May 26 2014 23:42 GMT
#446
Tolkitron, when are we draftin!?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 01:19:27
May 27 2014 01:19 GMT
#447
We can start drafting ~10PM EST tonight (so in 45 minutes), sorry, was out later than expected :<

Everyone get on TL TS noaw tho, to the FIELDS of JUSTICE! (channel). I'll be idling until then.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 27 2014 02:10 GMT
#448
we're drafting (you lurking fks)
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 29 2014 17:44 GMT
#449
Fucking Fnatic T.T
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 29 2014 18:11 GMT
#450
fnatic pls
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 29 2014 18:20 GMT
#451
Lololol. Fnatic :D
Useless wet fish.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
May 29 2014 18:20 GMT
#452
If this keeps up, Cyanide is going to be riding the bench.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 29 2014 18:40 GMT
#453
goddamit. Just after I put NiQ on the bench he start performing.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 29 2014 21:28 GMT
#454
wtf fnatic jesus
<3 Kim Taeyeon
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 29 2014 23:41 GMT
#455
At least for this week, Selfie worked out.

Also anyone else interested in a TL league? I'm not in one yet and that makes me sad
SUNSFANNED
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 30 2014 00:31 GMT
#456
^ I'm game.
Useless wet fish.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 30 2014 00:31 GMT
#457
Dropped overpow, added kerp for week 3. If xpeke continues to do bad ill put in kerp as starting mid laner and move xpeke to the bench and hope that wickd or freddy can pick up the slack
Fnatic continues to disappoint me... hopefully they can turn it on for day2, gambit was a huge surprise though.

im also interested in a TL league if anyone wants to make one
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
May 30 2014 00:41 GMT
#458
On May 30 2014 08:41 BrownBear wrote:
At least for this week, Selfie worked out.

Also anyone else interested in a TL league? I'm not in one yet and that makes me sad

I thought they said league creation was going to be closed after the 1st week. Anyway, if it's still open I'll join.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 30 2014 01:50 GMT
#459
Aight.

http://fantasy.lolesports.com/en-US/join/league/286009/56SlyzbomMAdPXeXljzY

If it fills up tonight we can draft maybe. If not let's aim to draft Saturday?
SUNSFANNED
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
May 30 2014 03:16 GMT
#460
Saturday I am probably going to be busy helping my sister move.
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