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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:06:37
May 13 2014 01:04 GMT
#701
Reading those old threads is always a bit of a nostalgia bomb

All those old names I haven't seen in ages

On May 13 2014 10:04 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:01 killerdog wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Idra didn't cheat, and was actually legit good

Do you think this bw thing is some kind of game?

Yes it is.People overreacting too much.He was 14 or so.People can cleanup their act.

I was being sarcastic with the last line :p

I think he just pissed a lot of people off once, and he's not the most humble of people so he's rather easy to continue to hate. Personally I don't mind him, and find his videos interesting. But i can see how people could stay not liking him for something he did a while ago.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
May 13 2014 01:04 GMT
#702
3 games I picked braum in normal draft.......... 3 dodges
Moar banelings less qq
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#703
PM from krndandaman helped clear it up, I think I get it now.

TYTY
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#704
--- Nuked ---
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#705
On May 13 2014 10:04 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:01 killerdog wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Idra didn't cheat, and was actually legit good

Do you think this bw thing is some kind of game?

Yes it is.People overreacting too much.He was 14 or so.People can cleanup their act.

Although him advertising his stream as d1 on korean server when highest current acc is plat is kinda sad.Even he has had it at some point that doesn't mean he is one now.

It gets the exact kind of reaction it deserves.
Cheating to beat good players then bragging about it? lol?

He should never have been unbanned in the first place. He really should have faded into oblivion so no one had to hear about him again
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 13 2014 01:06 GMT
#706
Watching Xiaoweixiao make Krepo pissed off is pretty funny
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:13:25
May 13 2014 01:07 GMT
#707
On May 13 2014 10:04 IamPryda wrote:
3 games I picked braum in normal draft.......... 3 dodges

Go into teambuilder, then you can not play for half an hour without even having to click "accept game" every now and then. :p

Had a braum in my last ranked game, it was near impossible to fight them (us morg lucian, then braum mf) early on, as every trade just got absorbed, not that they could do anything back to us. But then mf let herself get caught a bunch of times and we snowballed.

It was basically impossible for our vi to gank though. Every time she appeared braum would just q us, slowing everyone, then absorb everything as he walked away, taking basically no damage.

Also lucian ulting braums shield is one of the coolest looking things I've seen in ages.

Has anyone actually tried/vs'd him in a serious game?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 13 2014 01:08 GMT
#708
Scarra and Zion just got drophacked on their streams. x')
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:20:46
May 13 2014 01:10 GMT
#709
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.


"Cocky" here isn't the right word for it. Idra was blunt and cocky, but he was actually tier 1 among foreigner pros, and will play anyone that call him out fair and square. Dude stood by himself and put his money where his mouth is.

Lastshadow is just a leecher and a douche who spins everything around so that he's in the good light, and, as many people here had pointed out throughout his reign of terror, the dude's a liar.

On May 13 2014 10:04 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:01 killerdog wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Idra didn't cheat, and was actually legit good

Do you think this bw thing is some kind of game?

Yes it is.People overreacting too much.He was 14 or so.People can cleanup their act.

Although him advertising his stream as d1 on korean server when highest current acc is plat is kinda sad.Even he has had it at some point that doesn't mean he is one now.


It's not like we ostracized him for that one single incident. We have former hackers in TL whom we respect very much nowdays, because they actually cleaned up their shit.

With LastShadow every now and then we heard something from him and turned out it was bullshit.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:14:55
May 13 2014 01:11 GMT
#710
On May 13 2014 10:10 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.


"Cocky" here isn't the right word for it. Idra was blunt and cocky, but he was actually tier 1 among foreigner pros, and will play anyone that call him out fair and square. Dude stood by himself and put his money where his mouth is.

Lastshadow is just a leecher and a douche who spins everything around so that he's in the good light, and, as many people here had pointed out throughout his reign of terror, the dude's a liar.


He also lost a game to a single zealot like not even 10 minutes into a game. Lastshadow that is. All the protoss had to do was get a Stalker past the bunker to force the GG. The zealot did all the work
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 13 2014 01:23 GMT
#711
On May 13 2014 10:11 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:10 O-ops wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.


"Cocky" here isn't the right word for it. Idra was blunt and cocky, but he was actually tier 1 among foreigner pros, and will play anyone that call him out fair and square. Dude stood by himself and put his money where his mouth is.

Lastshadow is just a leecher and a douche who spins everything around so that he's in the good light, and, as many people here had pointed out throughout his reign of terror, the dude's a liar.


He also lost a game to a single zealot like not even 10 minutes into a game. Lastshadow that is. All the protoss had to do was get a Stalker past the bunker to force the GG. The zealot did all the work

I beat last shadow a buncha times when WoL came out lol, and i wasnt even remotely good at sc2(mid masters league maybe)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 13 2014 01:46 GMT
#712
Played some normals with Braum! This is still speculative since people dont know what they are doing yet but:

Good stuff:
He is really fun to play
His passive is incredible
His q is sweet as shit, has real high base damage (espcially at level 1) a 70% slow + stun stacker plus the projectile moves really quickly
His damage in lane fights is nice, and his teamfighting feels active and strong
It looks like riot may have gone out of their way to design a champion which beats thresh in lane + Show Spoiler +
I can dream dammit

Cool animations lore etc..
Laning against him as janna could be okay and i want to play her again
His mana costs are crazy low

Bad stuff
No idea how he matches up against other supports because blind pick results in the unholy but hilarious wall vs wall mirror
I really dont see how you are supposed to get kills against him in lane, think janna but with kill pressure
The range on his w is underwhelming
His q actually stops at the range indicator unlike morg or lux q's
Cant ward jump and his number are so nice they aren't going to put it in.

There are a bunch of ads that should pair up nicely with him, You can jump to a stealthed twitch to get a surprise engage and fast stun, with lucian passive and a q auto you more or less have a taric stun, you have a great ult combo with ashe and with graves in lane with you he isn't going to die easily. I want to try a him with jinx since they kits would link up well and he makes up for her immobility somewhat.

I am worried he might end up invalidating a lot of picks, i played against an ezreal and a jinx and they couldn't do much to me when i could near cancel half of their burst and the w makes it really difficult for the other bot lane to get to your adc. Design wise i am a bit worried about him coming into the game, I know he is weak atm but why would you ever pick taric when there is Braum. If thresh/Braum are how they want to make new supports they need to give some attention to the older champs.

My friend said he thought riot are sick of siege comps and that Braum and yasuo are their sneaky way of trying to remove nidalee players from the game.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
May 13 2014 02:07 GMT
#713
I think riot is trying to create a competitive set of champions they would like to see at the professional level right now, which is indirectly making a lot of the overlapping champions kinda useless. ..i think its for the better

...and stop talkign about lastshadow that guy is worse than combatex
im deaf
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2014 02:08 GMT
#714
On May 13 2014 10:03 Ketara wrote:
I just think it's legitimately possible for somebody who cheats when they're 14 years old to deserve a second chance when they're 21.

I thought there was more recent stuff than him cheating at BW in 2007.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/fan-clubs/329525-lastshadow-fan-club?page=25#499 shit like this as well.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 13 2014 02:13 GMT
#715
On May 13 2014 11:08 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:03 Ketara wrote:
I just think it's legitimately possible for somebody who cheats when they're 14 years old to deserve a second chance when they're 21.

I thought there was more recent stuff than him cheating at BW in 2007.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/fan-clubs/329525-lastshadow-fan-club?page=25#499 shit like this as well.

I am quite curious as to why he wasnt banned for that honestly. Blatantly cheating people out of their money
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 13 2014 02:17 GMT
#716
On May 13 2014 11:07 imBLIND wrote:
I think riot is trying to create a competitive set of champions they would like to see at the professional level right now, which is indirectly making a lot of the overlapping champions kinda useless. ..i think its for the better

...and stop talkign about lastshadow that guy is worse than combatex


If those "overlapping" champions that get knocked out (of the support pool, and this is mostly personal bias for me), comprise Taric, Fiddle, Soraka/Soraka (but there does need to be a cool healing support, just perhaps less faceroll than those), that is fine. The problem lies with killing off core supports like Alistar, Janna, and Nami, and also losing Lulu to the midlane because her power was shifted (which would be fine to me if Nami and Janna were Tier 1).

Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 13 2014 02:18 GMT
#717
On May 13 2014 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 11:07 imBLIND wrote:
I think riot is trying to create a competitive set of champions they would like to see at the professional level right now, which is indirectly making a lot of the overlapping champions kinda useless. ..i think its for the better

...and stop talkign about lastshadow that guy is worse than combatex


If those "overlapping" champions that get knocked out (of the support pool, and this is mostly personal bias for me), comprise Taric, Fiddle, Soraka/Soraka (but there does need to be a cool healing support, just perhaps less faceroll than those), that is fine. The problem lies with killing off core supports like Alistar, Janna, and Nami, and also losing Lulu to the midlane because her power was shifted (which would be fine to me if Nami and Janna were Tier 1).


I dont think Alistar is that bad, he just needs to combo or he's worthless so i guess that kinda hurts him lol.
Taric has honestly been phased out for a very long time. Fiddle can always jungle/midlane effectively so he isnt completely worthless by any means
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 13 2014 02:23 GMT
#718
On May 13 2014 11:08 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 10:03 Ketara wrote:
I just think it's legitimately possible for somebody who cheats when they're 14 years old to deserve a second chance when they're 21.

I thought there was more recent stuff than him cheating at BW in 2007.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/fan-clubs/329525-lastshadow-fan-club?page=25#499 shit like this as well.


Damn, and he doesn't have the excuse of "I was young and naive!" he constantly brings up with the cheating issue for this one.

Good luck SHC dealing with this headcase.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 13 2014 02:29 GMT
#719
that feeling with you firstblood tryndamere as ad malzahar top because he allins you going for the crit bs and your voidling takes a shit on him at level 2
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
May 13 2014 02:34 GMT
#720
Alistar isn't really played but you cant really push him out of lane and he is dangerous as hell with flash up, plus his teamfight is really nice. He does everything he used to and he also has a surprisingly good win rate in longer games. I thought he would do well at the start of s4 with relic shield, dorans shield and the changes to the defense tree. Sadly, tarics numbers being broken and leona hype train left him sitting in the corner unloved and forgotten. He just doesn't fit the fight initiator role as well as other champs and that what people seem to be looking for now. Fiddle support was hurt by the changes to fear and you can kill him pretty easily in lane, i feel like you are relying on the others letting dark wind poke bounce a lot or getting a lucky ult to be successful.
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