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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 13 2014 00:31 GMT
#681
On May 13 2014 09:20 Ketara wrote:
Let me try to make this point in a way that does not contain any math.

If the person on the enemy team who is killing your squishies is Fiora, how does leveling Braums E protect them?

His W may not give as many raw stats per level when you're just looking at numbers, but it's not exactly terrible either, and in this particular game where we're dealing with a super fed Fiora, his W actually protects your carry and his E only protects himself.

Therefor, in this situation it's probably a better idea for him to level W second and E third.

On the other hand, if he's dealing with a fed enemy Nidalee, it's probably a better idea for him to level E second and W third.


In short, I do not think the level order of his skills is very clear cut. I think it is going to be game dependent.

How does his e protect only himself wat?
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
May 13 2014 00:32 GMT
#682
On May 13 2014 09:00 Ketara wrote:
I would really like, for my edification, a list of all the bad things LS has done to make everybody hate him so.

A week or two ago a friend who doesn't browse TL was all linking me his coaching videos and whatever like they were super cool and I wanted to be like "This guy is a douche don't watch his videos" but did not have the backstory to properly explain said douchery.

If it's not really GD material, could PM me.


Dude was a known map rigger who pulled that shit against people within this community, some of them very well known, multiple times AND even after he got caught.

Threads u should read on this matter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/63176-lastest-lastshadows-guide-to-map-rigging
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/63802-lastshadow-apology

Pls don't necro any of them doe lol.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 00:36:55
May 13 2014 00:35 GMT
#683
On May 13 2014 09:31 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:20 Ketara wrote:
Let me try to make this point in a way that does not contain any math.

If the person on the enemy team who is killing your squishies is Fiora, how does leveling Braums E protect them?

His W may not give as many raw stats per level when you're just looking at numbers, but it's not exactly terrible either, and in this particular game where we're dealing with a super fed Fiora, his W actually protects your carry and his E only protects himself.

Therefor, in this situation it's probably a better idea for him to level W second and E third.

On the other hand, if he's dealing with a fed enemy Nidalee, it's probably a better idea for him to level E second and W third.


In short, I do not think the level order of his skills is very clear cut. I think it is going to be game dependent.

How does his e protect only himself wat?


Because it does?

I didn't realize Fiora was a ranged champion with projectiles that can be intercepted/blocked, I must be playing the wrong game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 13 2014 00:42 GMT
#684
On May 13 2014 09:35 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:31 nafta wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:20 Ketara wrote:
Let me try to make this point in a way that does not contain any math.

If the person on the enemy team who is killing your squishies is Fiora, how does leveling Braums E protect them?

His W may not give as many raw stats per level when you're just looking at numbers, but it's not exactly terrible either, and in this particular game where we're dealing with a super fed Fiora, his W actually protects your carry and his E only protects himself.

Therefor, in this situation it's probably a better idea for him to level W second and E third.

On the other hand, if he's dealing with a fed enemy Nidalee, it's probably a better idea for him to level E second and W third.


In short, I do not think the level order of his skills is very clear cut. I think it is going to be game dependent.

How does his e protect only himself wat?


Because it does?

I didn't realize Fiora was a ranged champion with projectiles that can be intercepted/blocked, I must be playing the wrong game.

Lol didn't even know that his shield blocked melee attacks on him op shizzle.While the extra armor would help pretty sure it wouldn't be enough to save.
Peeling with braum feels like such a waste though.I mean why pick a manly champ and not 1v5 dive wat?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
May 13 2014 00:46 GMT
#685
On May 13 2014 08:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 08:51 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:38 Scip wrote:
Well, since LS is on TL, I wonder if he'll become guitarsaurus 2.0?

You mean as far as Reddit hating him? Nah. Korean influence too op for Reddit.

what
what did i miss there ??

r/lol has a massive hardon for hating on gtrsrs. I think it has something to do with when he was trying to find a place to house Velocity he asked reddit for help and I don't know the rest from there. Then people get even more upset when the entire roster was let go at the end of S3 spring split.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 13 2014 00:47 GMT
#686
On May 13 2014 09:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 08:53 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:51 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:38 Scip wrote:
Well, since LS is on TL, I wonder if he'll become guitarsaurus 2.0?

You mean as far as Reddit hating him? Nah. Korean influence too op for Reddit.

what
what did i miss there ??

r/lol has a massive hardon for hating on gtrsrs. I think it has something to do with when he was trying to find a place to house Velocity he asked reddit for help and I don't know the rest from there. Then people get even more upset when the entire roster was let go at the end of S3 spring split.

More to do with picking up deezer for a while LOL
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 13 2014 00:48 GMT
#687
On May 13 2014 09:32 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:00 Ketara wrote:
I would really like, for my edification, a list of all the bad things LS has done to make everybody hate him so.

A week or two ago a friend who doesn't browse TL was all linking me his coaching videos and whatever like they were super cool and I wanted to be like "This guy is a douche don't watch his videos" but did not have the backstory to properly explain said douchery.

If it's not really GD material, could PM me.


Dude was a known map rigger who pulled that shit against people within this community, some of them very well known, multiple times AND even after he got caught.

Threads u should read on this matter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/63176-lastest-lastshadows-guide-to-map-rigging
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/63802-lastshadow-apology

Pls don't necro any of them doe lol.


Wait, so people are hating on him over shit that happened 7 years ago?

According to Liquipedia he's 21 now, so people are mad at him at 21 because he cheated at 14?

There has to be more to it than this.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 13 2014 00:49 GMT
#688
Wait sorry what? Was there really such a thing? I feel guitar is a decent guy who tried to make his team work. But it didn't, for a variety of reasons. I stand by his decision to disband his team and sell it to EG
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 13 2014 00:53 GMT
#689
On May 13 2014 09:48 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:32 O-ops wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:00 Ketara wrote:
I would really like, for my edification, a list of all the bad things LS has done to make everybody hate him so.

A week or two ago a friend who doesn't browse TL was all linking me his coaching videos and whatever like they were super cool and I wanted to be like "This guy is a douche don't watch his videos" but did not have the backstory to properly explain said douchery.

If it's not really GD material, could PM me.


Dude was a known map rigger who pulled that shit against people within this community, some of them very well known, multiple times AND even after he got caught.

Threads u should read on this matter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/63176-lastest-lastshadows-guide-to-map-rigging
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/63802-lastshadow-apology

Pls don't necro any of them doe lol.


Wait, so people are hating on him over shit that happened 7 years ago?

According to Liquipedia he's 21 now, so people are mad at him at 21 because he cheated at 14?

There has to be more to it than this.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/158832-lastshadow-saga-part-1

Plus the fact he's a self centered egotistical piece of shit who thinks he is better at literally everything than anyone else on earth.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 13 2014 00:54 GMT
#690
On May 13 2014 09:47 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:46 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:53 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:51 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:38 Scip wrote:
Well, since LS is on TL, I wonder if he'll become guitarsaurus 2.0?

You mean as far as Reddit hating him? Nah. Korean influence too op for Reddit.

what
what did i miss there ??

r/lol has a massive hardon for hating on gtrsrs. I think it has something to do with when he was trying to find a place to house Velocity he asked reddit for help and I don't know the rest from there. Then people get even more upset when the entire roster was let go at the end of S3 spring split.

More to do with picking up deezer for a while LOL


What happened to Deezer? I played against him a few weeks ago, but all he said was "i can only type 3 times see you guys in 10 min".
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 00:55:26
May 13 2014 00:54 GMT
#691
On May 13 2014 09:48 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:32 O-ops wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:00 Ketara wrote:
I would really like, for my edification, a list of all the bad things LS has done to make everybody hate him so.

A week or two ago a friend who doesn't browse TL was all linking me his coaching videos and whatever like they were super cool and I wanted to be like "This guy is a douche don't watch his videos" but did not have the backstory to properly explain said douchery.

If it's not really GD material, could PM me.


Dude was a known map rigger who pulled that shit against people within this community, some of them very well known, multiple times AND even after he got caught.

Threads u should read on this matter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/63176-lastest-lastshadows-guide-to-map-rigging
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/63802-lastshadow-apology

Pls don't necro any of them doe lol.


Wait, so people are hating on him over shit that happened 7 years ago?

According to Liquipedia he's 21 now, so people are mad at him at 21 because he cheated at 14?

There has to be more to it than this.

I think it's that, and the fact he seems to be rather "cocky" (whether it's warranted or not, thats a whole different debate) has made it really easy to keep not liking him.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 13 2014 00:55 GMT
#692
On May 13 2014 09:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:48 Ketara wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:32 O-ops wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:00 Ketara wrote:
I would really like, for my edification, a list of all the bad things LS has done to make everybody hate him so.

A week or two ago a friend who doesn't browse TL was all linking me his coaching videos and whatever like they were super cool and I wanted to be like "This guy is a douche don't watch his videos" but did not have the backstory to properly explain said douchery.

If it's not really GD material, could PM me.


Dude was a known map rigger who pulled that shit against people within this community, some of them very well known, multiple times AND even after he got caught.

Threads u should read on this matter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/63176-lastest-lastshadows-guide-to-map-rigging
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/63802-lastshadow-apology

Pls don't necro any of them doe lol.


Wait, so people are hating on him over shit that happened 7 years ago?

According to Liquipedia he's 21 now, so people are mad at him at 21 because he cheated at 14?

There has to be more to it than this.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/158832-lastshadow-saga-part-1

Plus the fact he's a self centered egotistical piece of shit who thinks he is better at literally everything than anyone else on earth who isn't Korean.


FTFY
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#693
You guys are making him sound like Idra.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#694
On May 13 2014 09:54 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:47 nafta wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:46 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:53 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:51 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:38 Scip wrote:
Well, since LS is on TL, I wonder if he'll become guitarsaurus 2.0?

You mean as far as Reddit hating him? Nah. Korean influence too op for Reddit.

what
what did i miss there ??

r/lol has a massive hardon for hating on gtrsrs. I think it has something to do with when he was trying to find a place to house Velocity he asked reddit for help and I don't know the rest from there. Then people get even more upset when the entire roster was let go at the end of S3 spring split.

More to do with picking up deezer for a while LOL


What happened to Deezer? I played against him a few weeks ago, but all he said was "i can only type 3 times see you guys in 10 min".

He just didnt perform very well and got a lot of hate so he didn't stay on team.Dunno what happened afterwards not really well versed in na scene.

It was when prolly left and they needed a mid for random amateur tourney if my memory doesn't lie.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 13 2014 00:59 GMT
#695
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Difference being Idra was actually good at the game. Lastshadow has never been anything more than a 3rd or 4th tier foreign player. He leeches off good players fame and shit pretty often. He even uses the fact he was allowed to stay in the Ozone house to say he played for them and coached for them, like lol?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:02:22
May 13 2014 01:01 GMT
#696
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Idra didn't cheat, and was actually legit good

Do you think this bw thing is some kind of game?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:03:23
May 13 2014 01:02 GMT
#697
--- Nuked ---
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 13 2014 01:03 GMT
#698
I just think it's legitimately possible for somebody who cheats when they're 14 years old to deserve a second chance when they're 21.

I thought there was more recent stuff than him cheating at BW in 2007.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
May 13 2014 01:04 GMT
#699
On May 13 2014 09:54 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:47 nafta wrote:
On May 13 2014 09:46 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:53 arb wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:51 Gahlo wrote:
On May 13 2014 08:38 Scip wrote:
Well, since LS is on TL, I wonder if he'll become guitarsaurus 2.0?

You mean as far as Reddit hating him? Nah. Korean influence too op for Reddit.

what
what did i miss there ??

r/lol has a massive hardon for hating on gtrsrs. I think it has something to do with when he was trying to find a place to house Velocity he asked reddit for help and I don't know the rest from there. Then people get even more upset when the entire roster was let go at the end of S3 spring split.

More to do with picking up deezer for a while LOL


What happened to Deezer? I played against him a few weeks ago, but all he said was "i can only type 3 times see you guys in 10 min".

It's a way Riot tries to get people to fix their shit without banning them. They basically are restricted on chat channels.

Can't flame if you can't talk.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 13 2014 01:04 GMT
#700
On May 13 2014 10:01 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:57 Ketara wrote:
You guys are making him sound like Idra.

Idra didn't cheat, and was actually legit good

Do you think this bw thing is some kind of game?

Yes it is.People overreacting too much.He was 14 or so.People can cleanup their act.

Although him advertising his stream as d1 on korean server when highest current acc is plat is kinda sad.Even he has had it at some point that doesn't mean he is one now.
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