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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 04:00 GMT
#2261
On May 04 2014 12:57 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 12:55 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:46 krndandaman wrote:
dude alistar is a monster late game lol


I have no idea why, to be honest.


Anyway, here's a reddit post for my shameless promotion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24o61c/early_late_game_champion_analysis/


ali with some actual defensive stats makes his ult bonkers, that and he has stupid cc cooldowns late game


Really? I actually find his CC's having really long cooldown.

His Q has 13 seconds cooldown and his W has 10. His E is almost useless in late game. His R is quite good though.

No matter how I look at it, I don't see his "late game potential".
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 04:04:44
May 04 2014 04:02 GMT
#2262
On May 04 2014 11:35 GolemMadness wrote:
Tristana wins the most in games under 25 minutes...?

my guess is those are the games where Tristana rides her early game power to victory. Despite having a really strong 5~6 slotted late game, her nonexistent midgame makes her lose or sets her team back far too much.
On May 04 2014 13:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 12:57 Slusher wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:55 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:46 krndandaman wrote:
dude alistar is a monster late game lol


I have no idea why, to be honest.


Anyway, here's a reddit post for my shameless promotion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24o61c/early_late_game_champion_analysis/


ali with some actual defensive stats makes his ult bonkers, that and he has stupid cc cooldowns late game


Really? I actually find his CC's having really long cooldown.

His Q has 13 seconds cooldown and his W has 10. His E is almost useless in late game. His R is quite good though.

No matter how I look at it, I don't see his "late game potential".

People consider him to be reasonably strong late game because a properly played Alistar effectively has a Malphite ult on a ~10 second cooldown, giving him strong initiation and catch potential. On top of that, in the lategame when your carries can shred anyone in the span of ~5 seconds, Alistar's cc, which can't be mitigated, provides just that.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 04 2014 04:03 GMT
#2263
if the game is 50 min long, you are playing ali (in s4) and you don't have 30%+ cdr you are playing the champion wrong.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 04:06:28
May 04 2014 04:06 GMT
#2264
On May 04 2014 13:03 Slusher wrote:
if the game is 50 min long, you are playing ali (in s4) and you don't have 30%+ cdr you are playing the champion wrong.


Sure, but look at, for example, Leona. Her Q has a 7 seconds cooldown, which is almost half as Alistar's Q.

Now, I am fully aware that Leona's Q is a stun, not a knock-up, not AOE, and only lasts 1.25 seconds unmodified. But still.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 04:10:46
May 04 2014 04:07 GMT
#2265
dunno what to tell you it comes as no suprise to me having played in a 50 min alistar game before, you feel like an unkillable god in teamfights

ammumu weaker late also suprising
Carrilord has arrived.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 04 2014 04:19 GMT
#2266
On May 04 2014 11:42 JeosAdn wrote:
Aah anivia, the early game monster. Wait what?


anivia is probably my least favorite champ to lane against ever, and this is a game where nidalee exists
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 04 2014 04:21 GMT
#2267
There is nobody worse to lane against than Yasuo.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 04:24 GMT
#2268
Unless it's Akali vs Yasuo.... in which case I win the lane with one hand only.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
May 04 2014 04:29 GMT
#2269
Yasuo has some pretty decent lane counters though, or at least champs that do well vs him.

Personal least favourite to lane against:

1. Nidalee
2. Orianna
3. Lux
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
May 04 2014 04:34 GMT
#2270
On May 04 2014 13:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 11:42 JeosAdn wrote:
Aah anivia, the early game monster. Wait what?


anivia is probably my least favorite champ to lane against ever, and this is a game where nidalee exists


Anivia snowballs lanes so so hard. If you can't dodge her Q you will just feed her so much.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 04 2014 04:43 GMT
#2271
that mental block from not wanting to waste summoners/ults JUST to get her into egg, even though she's squishy as fuck and it's totally worth most of the time
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
May 04 2014 04:51 GMT
#2272
On May 04 2014 13:29 JazzVortical wrote:
Yasuo has some pretty decent lane counters though, or at least champs that do well vs him.

Personal least favourite to lane against:

1. Nidalee
2. Orianna
3. Lux


Don't koreans counterpick nid with yasuo?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 04 2014 04:52 GMT
#2273
On May 04 2014 13:51 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 13:29 JazzVortical wrote:
Yasuo has some pretty decent lane counters though, or at least champs that do well vs him.

Personal least favourite to lane against:

1. Nidalee
2. Orianna
3. Lux


Don't koreans counterpick nid with yasuo?


They do counter Nid with Yasuo.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 04:57 GMT
#2274
On May 04 2014 13:52 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 13:51 Ethelis wrote:
On May 04 2014 13:29 JazzVortical wrote:
Yasuo has some pretty decent lane counters though, or at least champs that do well vs him.

Personal least favourite to lane against:

1. Nidalee
2. Orianna
3. Lux


Don't koreans counterpick nid with yasuo?


They do counter Nid with Yasuo.



Yasuo is really strong vs. Nidalee in soloQ too.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 04 2014 04:58 GMT
#2275
--- Nuked ---
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 05:06 GMT
#2276
I am thinking of making that table I created into a giant collection of charts. Each chart is the win rate of a champion vs. Game length. I think this will allow everyone to more easily see how win rate is affected by game length.

Not 100% sure how to do this painlessly at the moment. R can make this work for sure, but I am actually hoping for a solution with Excel.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 05:07 GMT
#2277
On May 04 2014 13:58 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 13:00 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:57 Slusher wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:55 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 04 2014 12:46 krndandaman wrote:
dude alistar is a monster late game lol


I have no idea why, to be honest.


Anyway, here's a reddit post for my shameless promotion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24o61c/early_late_game_champion_analysis/


ali with some actual defensive stats makes his ult bonkers, that and he has stupid cc cooldowns late game


Really? I actually find his CC's having really long cooldown.

His Q has 13 seconds cooldown and his W has 10. His E is almost useless in late game. His R is quite good though.

No matter how I look at it, I don't see his "late game potential".


he becomes an unkillable tank with 2 hard cc's, can be a pseudo-malphite ult every 7 seconds or so with max cdr.
his heal is also especially useful in lategame sieges. heal ur minions that are pushing and also heal ur allies poking at the tower. there's not much other supports i would rather have than alistar in the lategame.


I think you are right. Ty for your input. I never thought about it that way.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
May 04 2014 05:08 GMT
#2278
Lol imp playing top lane in Masters against shy...this is gonna be very interesting
Jaedong :D
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 04 2014 05:19 GMT
#2279
dafuq is dis in masters

dandy top, skatch jungle

is dis tsm or fanatic
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
May 04 2014 05:21 GMT
#2280
On May 04 2014 14:19 Celial wrote:
dafuq is dis in masters

dandy top, skatch jungle

is dis tsm or fanatic

GG i got mindgamed
Jaedong :D
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