EPT[Patch 4.6] Twitch VU General Discussion - Page 113
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:31 red_ wrote: Isn't the only thing that is stopping that from happening cost(risk)? Like, I don't think OGN would turn away an NA team from qualifying for Champions, but no NA team will move to Korea on the chance of qualifying. yeah, the cost of not doing LCS is a huge reason why. Back in s2 it was more feasible to do, since you'd only be missing a few small NA tourneys rather than entire season. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:35 GolemMadness wrote: Tristana wins the most in games under 25 minutes...? That'd probably be AP trist, not AD | ||
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JeosAdn
Costa Rica432 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:37 wei2coolman wrote: yeah, the cost of not doing LCS is a huge reason why. Back in s2 it was more feasible to do, since you'd only be missing a few small NA tourneys rather than entire season. But that can't possibly be a negative thing. Basically you have the exact same options(go to Korea to compete, or stay here). One option is the exact same, the other is now far more appealing. It's not Riot's fault that teams prefer a stable income/career over risking everything on Korean dreams. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:31 Sufficiency wrote: I was curious what are the "late game champions" and what are the "early game champions"... so I made this chart: http://i.imgur.com/3HDXYx0.png I collected ~800k ranked soloQ games only for patch 4.6. The first column is the overall win rate of the champion. Each subsequent column is the win rate of the champion for a specific game length. For example, you can see that with Poppy, she wins ~40% of the time for games less than 25 minutes, but wins >50% of the time for games more than 35 minutes. On the other hand, Darius wins >50% of the time for games less than 30 minutes, but wins ~47% of the time for games more than 40 minutes. The green/red boxes follow this rule: if win % > overall win % + 2%, green if win % < overall win % - 2%, red Here's what I can see: + Show Spoiler + Twitch, Vayne, Poppy, Karthus, Veigar - late game monster. Heimer, Pantheon, Zilean - terribad late game. Urgot - WTF late game Urgot? Might be due to small sample size. Jinx - doesn't look that OP in late game. Shaco - somewhat expected. His early game is really strong; then he falls off in mid game. But in a very lengthy game, he can just BD and it's incredibly frustrating to play against. Tristana - a classic. Strong early/late. Sucky mid game. Most interesting stat is Anivia & Ziggs bad lategame stats. Basically, what that is saying, is that regardless of how annoying it is to try and push against them when they drag it out, they are still susceptible to some lategame force that causes their teams to lose. I suspect that is some combination of Blue reliance and immobility. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:43 red_ wrote: But that can't possibly be a negative thing. Basically you have the exact same options(go to Korea to compete, or stay here). One option is the exact same, the other is now far more appealing. It's not Riot's fault that teams prefer a stable income/career over risking everything on Korean dreams. Riot could just space their league better so at least once a year top teams have a chance to qualify for OGN in between off season if they wanted to. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Little surprised Malphite doesn't really spike at all towards mid-game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:42 JeosAdn wrote: Aah anivia, the early game monster. Wait what? Anivia snowballs stupidly hard because her base damage and ratios are stupidly high. Sure she isn't necessarily as high-impact as a 5-man Galio ult, but before teams group, during skirmishes, picks and catches, she doesn't have a 3 minutes cooldown (just ER is close to half a champion's health when Anivia gets ahead early and that's a 6s cd). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:42 JeosAdn wrote: Aah anivia, the early game monster. Wait what? Anivia's super early game is actually pretty fucking good if you're a god at landing Q's. She has really long AA range, so she does a deceptive amount of early game auto attack damage in her match ups, and if they get hit by the Q and the follow up E, they're pretty fucked in lane. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:47 zer0das wrote: Kennen being better mid-late game doesn't really surprise me. I bet in season 2-3 that was reversed. Little surprised Malphite doesn't really spike at all towards mid-game. Yes, Kennen is very surprising to me as well. The other surprising ones: Alistar (late game Alistar is good?!), Irelia. On May 04 2014 11:44 cLutZ wrote: Most interesting stat is Anivia & Ziggs bad lategame stats. Basically, what that is saying, is that regardless of how annoying it is to try and push against them when they drag it out, they are still susceptible to some lategame force that causes their teams to lose. I suspect that is some combination of Blue reliance and immobility. You are probably right. Although keep in mind that this is 4.6 Ziggs, who got nerfed yet again. Ziggs's own somewhat lackluster AP ratio plus the Lich Bane + AA range nerf hurt his late game scaling quite a bit. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Hello, I've googled almost every single thread about it already. I've installed newest graphic card drivers, I've tried the resolution trick, I've tried disabling all processes in background in msconfig, I've tried reinstalling LoL, I've tried repairing and nothing goddamn works. It happens all of the time. I've did the Windows format today, installed LeagueOfLegends (with problems, had 99% stuck issue bot solved it) and now, evertime I try to play it freezes. I'm making custom games and it randomly freezes during game load (94-100%) or 1-2 seconds right after game loads. I can't even alt+ctrl+del - have to hard reset. As I said, I have newest nVidia GeForce 310M drivers, I have updated AdobeAir/Flash/anything, I've tried changing screen resolution, I've tried repairing, reinstalling LoL, disabling all startup programs in mscongif and it still freezes for me. I have no idea what to do anymore... please help me, I want to play again.... Windows 7 64-bit nVidia GeForce 310M Enough RAM LeagueOfLegends was working perfectly before I've formatted / reinstalled Windows today. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Celial
2602 Posts
On May 04 2014 11:31 Sufficiency wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I was curious what are the "late game champions" and what are the "early game champions"... so I made this chart: http://i.imgur.com/3HDXYx0.png I collected ~800k ranked soloQ games only for patch 4.6. The first column is the overall win rate of the champion. Each subsequent column is the win rate of the champion for a specific game length. For example, you can see that with Poppy, she wins ~40% of the time for games less than 25 minutes, but wins >50% of the time for games more than 35 minutes. On the other hand, Darius wins >50% of the time for games less than 30 minutes, but wins ~47% of the time for games more than 40 minutes. The green/red boxes follow this rule: if win % > overall win % + 2%, green if win % < overall win % - 2%, red Here's what I can see: + Show Spoiler + Twitch, Vayne, Poppy, Karthus, Veigar - late game monster. Heimer, Pantheon, Zilean - terribad late game. Urgot - WTF late game Urgot? Might be due to small sample size. Jinx - doesn't look that OP in late game. Shaco - somewhat expected. His early game is really strong; then he falls off in mid game. But in a very lengthy game, he can just BD and it's incredibly frustrating to play against. Tristana - a classic. Strong early/late. Sucky mid game. Soooo. Assumed that: 1. Soloqueue favors strong early champions that are disruptive and snowbally (because of slower reaction times, no communication, etc). 2. The current game design gives more power to late game champions through various means (games lasting longer, anti-snowball, etc). What am I supposed to practice for solo queue now, god I am so bad at deciding on only a handful of champions to play =( | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
On May 04 2014 12:28 Slusher wrote: Loci playing vs. Jiji on his stream That game was a nightmare... My top lane was nowhere to be seen. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 04 2014 12:46 krndandaman wrote: dude alistar is a monster late game lol I have no idea why, to be honest. Anyway, here's a reddit post for my shameless promotion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24o61c/early_late_game_champion_analysis/ | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 04 2014 12:55 Sufficiency wrote: I have no idea why, to be honest. Anyway, here's a reddit post for my shameless promotion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24o61c/early_late_game_champion_analysis/ ali with some actual defensive stats makes his ult bonkers, that and he has stupid cc cooldowns late game kinda surprised by Sej not getting much better late | ||
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