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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 19:37:52
March 21 2014 19:30 GMT
#1001
On March 20 2014 23:56 phyvo wrote:
Man this xerath rework really has me down. I miss siege mode xerath, self rooting for 2 seconds out of every 2 minutes is the most boring thing ever. With that range it's not even a trade off.


After a few games with new Xerath, I can see why everyone is disappointed. I feel that old Xerath was fine save for the range on E when in siege mode. They should have made it match Q's range in siege mode if they really felt they had to "fix" something. He felt fine to me otherwise. Everything from mana costs to dmg felt fun to me. The changes feel very clunky and underwhelming to me.

Let's start with Q. The Q is supposed to mimic the Q from Varus in mechanic. However something clunky happens in Xerath's version. The build up is the same for both champs, but Xerath sorta roots himself to do the whole charge animation that Q delivers. If this was his old Q, the animation would be fine, however with this new mobility enabled charging mechanic, it comes off as very clunky in feel. When Varus fires Q, his mobility isn't stopped as much if at all. Now I get that Varus has the glowing bow to alert enemies to the skill, and since Xerath doesn't glow there has to be some sort of notification, hence the animation before firing. I just wish they clean that area up a bit, like make Xerath's move penalty a bit less, or drop the rooting and let some other sort of alert exist.

The new W is ok to me, I can't really find anything bad to it. However I can also see why the folks that liked the old W would want it to stay. It was a nice mechanic and the mpen was a nice perk to the skill.

The newish E is fine to me being a skill shot and working without having to have a Q follow up. Again this is one of those things where I can also find no fault in wanting it the old way, well except the range for it in siege mode. I never got why it was shorter than the Q, and it was shorter by enough to make it annoying when in a team fight.

The new R is kind of funny to me. In essence it plays the same as the old r but with hella more range, but for some reason it feels a bit clunkier. I must preface that I don't use smartcasting (I really should learn it probably). Now during the whole ramp up I was reading that all you had to do was press R then right click where you wanted to fire. I remember during the first game since his rework I tried this 2-3 times before it dawned on me to try pressing R before each volley. Problem solved yeah, but it just feels weird since it feels like pressing R should cancel the rooting early like the old W did. I think I am with everyone here in that old R is the way to go mechanics wise and just use the new range. While they are at it, spruce up that projectile, it's very meh for an ult.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#1002
--- Nuked ---
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 21 2014 20:15 GMT
#1003
Kassadin confirmed shit tier now

at least definitely not worth a ban
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 21 2014 20:22 GMT
#1004
Just had a game where I stole an Alistar's blue as Maokai after he knocked it through the wall with headbutt. Next level counter jungling.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
March 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#1005
Riot seems to have moved on from the model of exponential growth to one of maximizing current revenue, or at least they've definitely made a shift; Understandable considering how big they've become. Not sure if it's a good decision for them long-term as I think a lot of their recent decisions are not best for their base, but they're so big now, it may not matter. I'm starting to believe if Blizzards MOBA is a great game, combined with their name brand, they've got a good shot at taking a lot of players from LoL.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
March 21 2014 20:29 GMT
#1006
On March 22 2014 05:23 lefty wrote:
Riot seems to have moved on from the model of exponential growth to one of maximizing current revenue, or at least they've definitely made a shift; Understandable considering how big they've become. Not sure if it's a good decision for them long-term as I think a lot of their recent decisions are not best for their base, but they're so big now, it may not matter. I'm starting to believe if Blizzards MOBA is a great game, combined with their name brand, they've got a good shot at taking a lot of players from LoL.


Problem is that their servers can't really handle that much more growth, so its natural that they will just try to maximize current atm.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
March 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#1007
some dj khaled level business analysis up in this
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 21 2014 20:48 GMT
#1008
On March 22 2014 03:25 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 03:21 killerdog wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:13 Dusty wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
I won't run LS if they nerf it. They barely eek out AD runes as is on ADC. The difference between getting BF vs pickaxe+vamp scepter is 10 ad and a slower BT.


...which is significant for dueling and laning...

You would probably be stronger with vamp + pick + ad quints compared to bt + ls quints + 2 pots or w/e. Although as soon as your lane opponent finishes bt your lane is basically over, so you'd need to keep them in lane for like 8-10 minutes without letting either side back :p

edit: oops double >.>


VAMP PLUS PICKAXE IS EQUAL TO BT

IVE HEARD IT ALL

edit: i think you meant vamp+axe vs BF + 2 pots? either way you're going to be very very very slightly stronger with vamp + axe and once he gets bt money you are fucked because you won't be able to compete easily since ie sucks for dueling and you're 875 gold behind your own BT unless your opponent is being dumb and stays after they have enough gold (they shouldnt)

Ye I meant bf :p

I agree though. that's the point i was trying to make. momentarily stronger, but unviable unless you can get something out of the momentary advantage, or force both sides to stay in lane til you have enough gold that it doesn't matter.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 20:50:16
March 21 2014 20:49 GMT
#1009
On March 22 2014 03:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
i see no reason to change any of my runes, glad that's out of the way.


Wait until they release new runes. Something such as hybrid AR/MR. gg yo
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#1010
On March 22 2014 02:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-03/osu-pab031914.php?_ga=1.177661477.1242348198.1380032472

All you Lucian players should feel ashamed.

Did a bunch of people sit around and say "How can we invoke white guilt more?" Holy shit.

On March 22 2014 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
I won't run LS if they nerf it. They barely eek out AD runes as is on ADC. The difference between getting BF vs pickaxe+vamp scepter is 10 ad and a slower BT.

To be fair, for the people that mentioned the late BT timing, it isn't that pig of an issue. Vamp/BF/Pick is just slightly more expensive than BT and basically acts like one stuck at 10 stacks. The issue is it forces you to be behind the game until PD/SS is done unless you're going BT/LW.

On March 22 2014 03:19 nafta wrote:
Its pretty sad that riot yet again change shit just to get people to buy stuff.They promised refunds yet I dont really see any.

They promised refunds if and when their changes were to remove runes that people own from the game.

On March 22 2014 03:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 03:30 Roffles wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:29 Alzadar wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:25 Dusty wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:21 killerdog wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:13 Dusty wrote:
On March 22 2014 03:00 Eppa! wrote:
I won't run LS if they nerf it. They barely eek out AD runes as is on ADC. The difference between getting BF vs pickaxe+vamp scepter is 10 ad and a slower BT.


...which is significant for dueling and laning...

You would probably be stronger with vamp + pick + ad quints compared to bt + ls quints + 2 pots or w/e. Although as soon as your lane opponent finishes bt your lane is basically over, so you'd need to keep them in lane for like 8-10 minutes without letting either side back :p

edit: oops double >.>


VAMP PLUS PICKAXE IS EQUAL TO BT

IVE HEARD IT ALL


I study math, can confirm that 10+25 is approximately 100.

He obviously meant BF though.

10+25 = 125. The numbers get merged and the middle 2 get added together to get 125.


logic checks out
+ Show Spoiler +




Wow, she's dumb and runs slow. Please tell me this was part of a viral campaign for a bad horror movie.

On March 22 2014 05:13 krndandaman wrote:
I wonder when the nerfs to manaless tops will happen.

Looking at you in particular shyvana/renekton

Shyvana was nerf, Renekton has nerfs on the PBE.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 21 2014 21:06 GMT
#1011
On March 22 2014 05:32 Kyrie wrote:
some dj khaled level business analysis up in this


these threads are the same as every anime thread ever
OMG KUBOKISHILBLIZZRIOT DOESNT CARE ABOUT ESPORTS LOST THEIR PASSION JUST WANTS MONEY SO BAD GONNA STOP PLAYING/READING
every damn week/patch
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 21:19:15
March 21 2014 21:19 GMT
#1012
Naniwa's Reflections is out... I skipped forward to the LoL questions first because I couldn't wait. I am seriously blown away.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4159 Posts
March 21 2014 21:20 GMT
#1013
I dont get it, what refunds (regarding runes) will the runes just disappear from me and I have to buy again?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 21 2014 21:21 GMT
#1014
On March 22 2014 06:06 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 05:32 Kyrie wrote:
some dj khaled level business analysis up in this


these threads are the same as every anime thread ever
OMG KUBOKISHILBLIZZRIOT DOESNT CARE ABOUT ESPORTS LOST THEIR PASSION JUST WANTS MONEY SO BAD GONNA STOP PLAYING/READING
every damn week/patch

kill la kill discussions disgaree, that show is pure awesome
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 21 2014 21:23 GMT
#1015
On March 22 2014 06:19 UmberBane wrote:
Naniwa's Reflections is out... I skipped forward to the LoL questions first because I couldn't wait. I am seriously blown away.

It almost like the last section of the interview is literally devoted to rustling jimmies rofl.
Glorious SEA doto
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 21 2014 21:24 GMT
#1016
On March 22 2014 05:23 lefty wrote:
Riot seems to have moved on from the model of exponential growth to one of maximizing current revenue, or at least they've definitely made a shift; Understandable considering how big they've become. Not sure if it's a good decision for them long-term as I think a lot of their recent decisions are not best for their base, but they're so big now, it may not matter. I'm starting to believe if Blizzards MOBA is a great game, combined with their name brand, they've got a good shot at taking a lot of players from LoL.

The game is too different. As I've said before, the core gameplay of HotS just isn't enough like DotA or LoL to warrant the comparison. As such, it's unlikely that HotS will replace LoL for players, simply because the games are that different, even though many LoL players will probaby play HotS.
Moderator
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 21 2014 21:24 GMT
#1017
On March 22 2014 06:23 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 06:19 UmberBane wrote:
Naniwa's Reflections is out... I skipped forward to the LoL questions first because I couldn't wait. I am seriously blown away.

It almost like the last section of the interview is literally devoted to rustling jimmies rofl.


Have you watched that part yet? This was my initial thought aswell.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#1018
On March 22 2014 06:20 M2 wrote:
I dont get it, what refunds (regarding runes) will the runes just disappear from me and I have to buy again?

Originally they were going to make marks offensive, seals defensive, and glyphs utility. So, things like armor marks wouldn't exist anymore and people that had them would get refunded for that. Then they decided that their goals were too lofty for their means and we have the patchwork job we're getting now.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 21 2014 21:30 GMT
#1019
On March 22 2014 06:21 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 06:06 Slayer91 wrote:
On March 22 2014 05:32 Kyrie wrote:
some dj khaled level business analysis up in this


these threads are the same as every anime thread ever
OMG KUBOKISHILBLIZZRIOT DOESNT CARE ABOUT ESPORTS LOST THEIR PASSION JUST WANTS MONEY SO BAD GONNA STOP PLAYING/READING
every damn week/patch

kill la kill discussions disgaree, that show is pure awesome


This is your average kill la kill discussion:
+ Show Spoiler +
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 21:32:39
March 21 2014 21:31 GMT
#1020
"But chess players don't seem the type to rage"

Oh thorin you have no idea, I once saw a 6ft british guy splash a glass full of wine onto a short asian guys suit, and the asian guy proceeded to slam him up against the wall. As a sport competitive chess tends to attract rather... interesting individuals :p
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