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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 28 2014 20:13 GMT
#2501
On January 29 2014 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:06 YouGotNothin wrote:
I'm no pro, but I play a lot of Tristana, and she already has great pushing ability, and an incredible attack speed steroid. Getting an item that gives more AS and wave clear first seems a tad overkill. I will try it out, but I feel this would make her weak mid game even weaker. If you get ahead, an early BF sword wrecks on her imo.

Early BF sword on any ADC wrecks anyone. rofl.

If early BF on any ADC wrecks anyone, then going for a shiv and getting fast waveclear instead for another 1000 gold seems pretty bad right?
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
January 28 2014 20:19 GMT
#2502
On January 29 2014 05:11 TheHumanSensation wrote:
I usually (ideally) do [BF -> Shiv -> IE / zerks -> other] on most ADs where I'd want to be building IE and shiv, is this abnormal? I always felt that the flat AD first was too strong to pass on, personally, although I don't play much trist.

Shiv first has very different priorities on what it's doing in the early game than standard marksman play.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 28 2014 20:20 GMT
#2503
On January 28 2014 11:32 Velocirapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 10:07 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:50 Ryuu314 wrote:
It's not much better I agree, but at the very least the qq in this thread is slightly more justified considering how those are staple picks in both solo q and competitive.

yorick saw very little competitive pick, wasn't even that popular when he was being played occasionally in some pro games, and the constant incessant bitching about Yorick, and how he should be removed also existed.

People just hate certain champions, that's just how it works.

People hate faceroll lane-bullies with minimal ressource management.

Renekton/Teemo/Yorick go easily in that niche.


No offense, but as somebody who has mained top at a pretty high level this is a view a person can only have at low level play or from reading too much reddit. Against good players Teemo has one of the most challenging laning phases of any top laner. There is literally no character who requires more consistently excellent positioning and judgement.

It is always easy to tell when people have no idea what they are talking about with Teemo because public opinion is almost the exact opposite of the truth. His laning phase is super rough but is team fight and objective control is really strong if your allies can engage or force your opponent to engage. He also scales insanely well but is really only viable now because of the 2-3 tank meta and new masteries, losing oracles is just icing on the cake.

I love the little guy but I am convinced most people are frustrated because they consider him a troll pick when he is actually conditionally top tier. The low expectations makes him always exceed them which leads to anger.


mr_tolkien is very irate that you called him, the great diamond up to 1 level top player, a low level or reddit person to have such opnions
he finds your arguments laughable and calling teemo not a lane bully when he's a massive bully against lots of common top laners absurd
but apparently he can't come up with a proper response so just bitches to me about it so ill redirecct the hate
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:21:17
January 28 2014 20:21 GMT
#2504
On January 29 2014 05:20 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 11:32 Velocirapture wrote:
On January 28 2014 10:07 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:50 Ryuu314 wrote:
It's not much better I agree, but at the very least the qq in this thread is slightly more justified considering how those are staple picks in both solo q and competitive.

yorick saw very little competitive pick, wasn't even that popular when he was being played occasionally in some pro games, and the constant incessant bitching about Yorick, and how he should be removed also existed.

People just hate certain champions, that's just how it works.

People hate faceroll lane-bullies with minimal ressource management.

Renekton/Teemo/Yorick go easily in that niche.


No offense, but as somebody who has mained top at a pretty high level this is a view a person can only have at low level play or from reading too much reddit. Against good players Teemo has one of the most challenging laning phases of any top laner. There is literally no character who requires more consistently excellent positioning and judgement.

It is always easy to tell when people have no idea what they are talking about with Teemo because public opinion is almost the exact opposite of the truth. His laning phase is super rough but is team fight and objective control is really strong if your allies can engage or force your opponent to engage. He also scales insanely well but is really only viable now because of the 2-3 tank meta and new masteries, losing oracles is just icing on the cake.

I love the little guy but I am convinced most people are frustrated because they consider him a troll pick when he is actually conditionally top tier. The low expectations makes him always exceed them which leads to anger.


mr_tolkien is very irate that you called him, the great diamond up to 1 level top player, a low level or reddit person to have such opnions
he finds your arguments laughable and calling teemo not a lane bully when he's a massive bully against lots of common top laners absurd
but apparently he can't come up with a proper response so just bitches to me about it so ill redirecct the hate


I was waiting for a post like this the moment I read the quoted-quoted post. God bless.
TranslatorBaa!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:25:12
January 28 2014 20:21 GMT
#2505
On January 29 2014 05:20 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 11:32 Velocirapture wrote:
On January 28 2014 10:07 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 28 2014 09:50 Ryuu314 wrote:
It's not much better I agree, but at the very least the qq in this thread is slightly more justified considering how those are staple picks in both solo q and competitive.

yorick saw very little competitive pick, wasn't even that popular when he was being played occasionally in some pro games, and the constant incessant bitching about Yorick, and how he should be removed also existed.

People just hate certain champions, that's just how it works.

People hate faceroll lane-bullies with minimal ressource management.

Renekton/Teemo/Yorick go easily in that niche.


No offense, but as somebody who has mained top at a pretty high level this is a view a person can only have at low level play or from reading too much reddit. Against good players Teemo has one of the most challenging laning phases of any top laner. There is literally no character who requires more consistently excellent positioning and judgement.

It is always easy to tell when people have no idea what they are talking about with Teemo because public opinion is almost the exact opposite of the truth. His laning phase is super rough but is team fight and objective control is really strong if your allies can engage or force your opponent to engage. He also scales insanely well but is really only viable now because of the 2-3 tank meta and new masteries, losing oracles is just icing on the cake.

I love the little guy but I am convinced most people are frustrated because they consider him a troll pick when he is actually conditionally top tier. The low expectations makes him always exceed them which leads to anger.


mr_tolkien is very irate that you called him, the great diamond up to 1 level top player, a low level or reddit person to have such opnions
he finds your arguments laughable and calling teemo not a lane bully when he's a massive bully against lots of common top laners absurd
but apparently he can't come up with a proper response so just bitches to me about it so ill redirecct the hate

Teut best troll EUW. I just quoted said post to have a good laugh and now you embarass me once more
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:30:53
January 28 2014 20:29 GMT
#2506
On January 29 2014 05:13 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 29 2014 05:06 YouGotNothin wrote:
I'm no pro, but I play a lot of Tristana, and she already has great pushing ability, and an incredible attack speed steroid. Getting an item that gives more AS and wave clear first seems a tad overkill. I will try it out, but I feel this would make her weak mid game even weaker. If you get ahead, an early BF sword wrecks on her imo.

Early BF sword on any ADC wrecks anyone. rofl.

If early BF on any ADC wrecks anyone, then going for a shiv and getting fast waveclear instead for another 1000 gold seems pretty bad right?

Early BF implies you're getting it on ADC before the enemy gets it, but considering Trist's weak early game, the chances of you getting a BF before the opponent, is slim to none. That's like saying, "getting early Triforce is so good", well no shit, you got it early before anyone can build anything to deal with it.
So instead you just play lane passive, until you get shiv, then you shove out wave, and go do other stuff. Similar to how mid lane works after the 7 minute mark, where midlaners just shove out their lane as fast as possible, and roam around and do stuff, without trading too much.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:54:59
January 28 2014 20:52 GMT
#2507
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glorious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:59:39
January 28 2014 20:55 GMT
#2508
On January 29 2014 05:52 Slayer91 wrote:
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glourious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398

Actually, we use latin for this, namely «Velociraptor». Just like English.

The good trad would be be «Velociravissement».
The legend of Darien lives on
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 28 2014 20:55 GMT
#2509
On January 29 2014 05:52 Slayer91 wrote:
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glorious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398


Methinks you missed the joke.
TranslatorBaa!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:57:20
January 28 2014 20:56 GMT
#2510
I said as a homage not a direct translation jesus tolkien get with the trends

On January 29 2014 05:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:52 Slayer91 wrote:
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glorious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398


Methinks you missed the joke.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor
DID I
DID I REALLY
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
January 28 2014 21:02 GMT
#2511
How are the featured streams decided? Just wondering how Qt and Cruzer are, but Kiwi isn't.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 21:13:36
January 28 2014 21:13 GMT
#2512
On January 29 2014 05:56 Slayer91 wrote:
I said as a homage not a direct translation jesus tolkien get with the trends

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 29 2014 05:52 Slayer91 wrote:
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glorious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398


Methinks you missed the joke.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor
DID I
DID I REALLY


Yes. You're still missing the joke.
TranslatorBaa!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 28 2014 21:24 GMT
#2513
On January 29 2014 04:08 Alaric wrote:
I know about that, but the way Clutz words it it sounds like he's mad because Riot wrote that Faker wore a skin in the last game (or even all 3).


Please,

It is pretty conspiracy-theory-worthy that the time that Riot decides to do this is immediately after someone changed the Skin settings to Faker's account before the OGN finals (or so Faker claims). Personally I think they should have just released "Riven Riven" which looks exactly like Riven, as a 1 RP skin as a joke or something.
Freeeeeeedom
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 28 2014 21:42 GMT
#2514
Did Faker use Battle Bunny in OGN? I didn't actually notice that, which is odd since that skin is an eyesore.
I am the Town Medic.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
January 28 2014 21:49 GMT
#2515
On January 29 2014 06:42 Alzadar wrote:
Did Faker use Battle Bunny in OGN? I didn't actually notice that, which is odd since that skin is an eyesore.

Yeah, he used it in the first game of the finals, unintentionally.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 28 2014 21:52 GMT
#2516
On January 29 2014 06:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:56 Slayer91 wrote:
I said as a homage not a direct translation jesus tolkien get with the trends

On January 29 2014 05:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 29 2014 05:52 Slayer91 wrote:
On a personal note I'd like to officially request, on behalf of mr_tolkien and the great french nation, that Velocirapture requests a name change to "Velocirapteur" as a homage to the glorious and cultured french language.

you may apply for name change in the following thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=3398


Methinks you missed the joke.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor
DID I
DID I REALLY


Yes. You're still missing the joke.


well, shit
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 28 2014 21:54 GMT
#2517
On January 29 2014 06:49 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 06:42 Alzadar wrote:
Did Faker use Battle Bunny in OGN? I didn't actually notice that, which is odd since that skin is an eyesore.

Yeah, he used it in the first game of the finals, unintentionally.

Apparently the OGN crew left it on that skin and faker is so used to skin not being changed he didn't notice it was on bunny until in game.
Glorious SEA doto
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#2518
On January 29 2014 06:42 Alzadar wrote:
Did Faker use Battle Bunny in OGN? I didn't actually notice that, which is odd since that skin is an eyesore.


someone was on his PC and preselected skins on his account, which he didnt know until the game started.
He didnt check the skins since he never uses them, so he started first game with a skin.

He told this in the interview after the games.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
January 28 2014 22:02 GMT
#2519
that's just what the man wants you to think happened.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 22:21:10
January 28 2014 22:20 GMT
#2520
This EUW challenger series final just got trolly as fuck with top leblanc and support gragas
http://www.twitch.tv/kaostv
Glorious SEA doto
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