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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 28 2014 19:08 GMT
#2481
I know about that, but the way Clutz words it it sounds like he's mad because Riot wrote that Faker wore a skin in the last game (or even all 3).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 28 2014 19:12 GMT
#2482
On January 29 2014 03:59 Kyrie wrote:
shiv first trist is a strong splitpush build that sidesteps her lacking midgame. i believe it was first introduced to high level pro play in ogn summer 2013 and has been fairly standard on korean trist since then, although i can't recall enough trist games to be too confident in the 'standard build' claim

It was only really a KTB thing as part of their split push strat focused on it but I guess most trists I saw after also got it so I guess shiv first is standard for trist.
Glorious SEA doto
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
January 28 2014 19:16 GMT
#2483
shiv first item for trist is so gud if you get ahead early on it just lets you keep map pressure because you can destroy a wave in 4 autos
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 28 2014 19:18 GMT
#2484
On January 29 2014 03:13 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 02:42 wei2coolman wrote:
it seems i've missed out on St.V casting. Which game/s did he cast? and any one got link to VoDs of those?


http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol/b/498861619

First set. I recommend to watch it from the very beginning, crowd is absolutely hilarious and brutal. Never heard a whole audience boo out a team like that before in eSports.

But TSM fans still worst in esports.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:31:46
January 28 2014 19:20 GMT
#2485
lol. shiv first into ie is good on trist. only issue is making it to the shiv. after that, it feels great as her power instantly spikes on shiv. auto them once or get shiv lighting + crit + explosive shots are op as hell. honestly, way too many people shit talk this build without even trying it.
BW -> League -> CSGO
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:21:31
January 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#2486
On January 29 2014 04:16 aurawashere wrote:
shiv first item for trist is so gud if you get ahead early on it just lets you keep map pressure because you can destroy a wave in 4 autos

Don't see why you wouldn't get vamp and BF. You trade way harder and can actually zone the enemy AD and support. Like what are you going to do if the enemy jinx/cait has BF and vamp and just trades 2-3 autos at a time? You'll get wrecked.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#2487
On January 29 2014 03:13 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 02:42 wei2coolman wrote:
it seems i've missed out on St.V casting. Which game/s did he cast? and any one got link to VoDs of those?


http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol/b/498861619

First set. I recommend to watch it from the very beginning, crowd is absolutely hilarious and brutal. Never heard a whole audience boo out a team like that before in eSports.

Afaik it's like a national thing, they're booing because of rivalry between Argentina and Brazil.
Glorious SEA doto
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 28 2014 19:23 GMT
#2488
On January 29 2014 04:21 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 03:13 UmberBane wrote:
On January 29 2014 02:42 wei2coolman wrote:
it seems i've missed out on St.V casting. Which game/s did he cast? and any one got link to VoDs of those?


http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol/b/498861619

First set. I recommend to watch it from the very beginning, crowd is absolutely hilarious and brutal. Never heard a whole audience boo out a team like that before in eSports.

Afaik it's like a national thing, they're booing because of rivalry between Argentina and Brazil.

Yeah, I don't think they'd boo an occidental team. It's just a rivalry.
The legend of Darien lives on
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 28 2014 19:24 GMT
#2489
On January 29 2014 04:21 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 04:16 aurawashere wrote:
shiv first item for trist is so gud if you get ahead early on it just lets you keep map pressure because you can destroy a wave in 4 autos

Don't see why you wouldn't get vamp and BF. You trade way harder and can actually zone the enemy AD and support. Like what are you going to do if the enemy jinx/cait has BF and vamp and just trades 2-3 autos at a time? You'll get wrecked.


Your press Q and hit the creeps 4 times in about half a second and then go on your merry way to do something else, why are you staying in lane to get hit if you have Shiv?
TranslatorBaa!
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:27:59
January 28 2014 19:27 GMT
#2490
if the team from argentina was made out of organ donors who donated all their winnings to charity and brought kittens for everyone in the crowd they would still be booed because they're a team from argentina in brazil

world cup will be even better or worse depending on what side you're on, argentina doesn't even play brazil in groups and they will still get booed.
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2014 19:28 GMT
#2491
On January 29 2014 04:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 04:21 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On January 29 2014 04:16 aurawashere wrote:
shiv first item for trist is so gud if you get ahead early on it just lets you keep map pressure because you can destroy a wave in 4 autos

Don't see why you wouldn't get vamp and BF. You trade way harder and can actually zone the enemy AD and support. Like what are you going to do if the enemy jinx/cait has BF and vamp and just trades 2-3 autos at a time? You'll get wrecked.


Your press Q and hit the creeps 4 times in about half a second and then go on your merry way to do something else, why are you staying in lane to get hit if you have Shiv?

Pretty much this, once you get shiv, you just trade for even farm. And the fact that you're Trist, means you outscale.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:52:10
January 28 2014 19:48 GMT
#2492
That was nearly hotshotGG level by kerp
That went way better than I expected for millenium after that insane 4 man flay > ult by CNB's thresh
Glorious SEA doto
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 28 2014 19:58 GMT
#2493
If the shiv lightning kills a creep as Trist does it explode?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 28 2014 20:00 GMT
#2494
On January 29 2014 04:58 Ketara wrote:
If the shiv lightning kills a creep as Trist does it explode?

nope
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
January 28 2014 20:06 GMT
#2495
I'm no pro, but I play a lot of Tristana, and she already has great pushing ability, and an incredible attack speed steroid. Getting an item that gives more AS and wave clear first seems a tad overkill. I will try it out, but I feel this would make her weak mid game even weaker. If you get ahead, an early BF sword wrecks on her imo.
I got nothin'...
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 28 2014 20:06 GMT
#2496
I swear I think riot heard me cry about Lucian so much they got sick of it and secretly buffed him. I've been wrecking face with him past 2 days and even killing tanks..... Maybe cuz I tried going TF first.... The burst feels stronger than BT first or is it just me?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2014 20:08 GMT
#2497
On January 29 2014 05:06 YouGotNothin wrote:
I'm no pro, but I play a lot of Tristana, and she already has great pushing ability, and an incredible attack speed steroid. Getting an item that gives more AS and wave clear first seems a tad overkill. I will try it out, but I feel this would make her weak mid game even weaker. If you get ahead, an early BF sword wrecks on her imo.

Early BF sword on any ADC wrecks anyone. rofl.
liftlift > tsm
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 28 2014 20:09 GMT
#2498
On January 29 2014 04:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 04:21 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On January 29 2014 04:16 aurawashere wrote:
shiv first item for trist is so gud if you get ahead early on it just lets you keep map pressure because you can destroy a wave in 4 autos

Don't see why you wouldn't get vamp and BF. You trade way harder and can actually zone the enemy AD and support. Like what are you going to do if the enemy jinx/cait has BF and vamp and just trades 2-3 autos at a time? You'll get wrecked.


Your press Q and hit the creeps 4 times in about half a second and then go on your merry way to do something else, why are you staying in lane to get hit if you have Shiv?

You don't get 8 auto's per second around level 8 with shiv and trist. Even if you would only hit the creeps a few times, a jinx or cait or lucian can get some autos off. Say 3 autos? If that happens twice you have to base without lifesteal.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 28 2014 20:09 GMT
#2499
Triforce first was what got Lucian into the spotlight in the first place. Pros started doing BT first since it's better for sustained pushing. Triforce is more burst.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
January 28 2014 20:11 GMT
#2500
I usually (ideally) do [BF -> Shiv -> IE / zerks -> other] on most ADs where I'd want to be building IE and shiv, is this abnormal? I always felt that the flat AD first was too strong to pass on, personally, although I don't play much trist.
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