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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 15:37 GMT
#2261
On January 28 2014 00:34 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 00:30 kongoline wrote:
vlad


Dunno if you forgot, but Spectre's Cowl exists.

so u go even in lane and post lvl9 u rape renekton regardless because ur manaless with dumb sustain and mr doesnt counter that only burst and renekton doesnt have enough burst
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 15:40:41
January 27 2014 15:40 GMT
#2262
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 27 2014 15:43 GMT
#2263
Yeah Renekton won't even let Vlad pass 6, to be honest. The lne is almost unplayable.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 15:51:30
January 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#2264
On January 28 2014 00:35 Shikyo wrote:
Shouldn't rengar be still okay vs Renekton? Considering that Renekton is more about whittling and trading, the %missing hp heal should work well enough.

Sure, I main rengar and going tanky (9/21 doran shield + armor), maxing E for harass and nothing he can do to you, to some extend you can't get him out of the lane as well though, but to be fair who can bully Renekton out of the lane :-)
A risky strat with Rengar is to go offensive (21/9 CDR Glyphs) + elixir and you can pretty much kill him at level 2 or 3 and after that he cannot come back without jungle's help, Rengar just shits on him if he takes 1st blood with offensive set up, however, if you mess up and do not kill him or even worse - you die, then forget about this lane for a long time, you are going to die even under your turret, so its pretty risky, but possible
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#2265
Rango is decent vs renek.You both afk farm and cant really do anything to each other.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#2266
On January 28 2014 00:34 Scip wrote:
I guess Teut took ritalin at some point in his life
or he has ADHD

there is no other way that thing could be aimed as an insult towards him


I bet he cracks the rita pills with a spoon and snorts it like a baws
hi
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 27 2014 16:06 GMT
#2267
On January 28 2014 00:50 nafta wrote:
Rango is decent vs renek.You both afk farm and cant really do anything to each other.

That exactly has been my experience. Rengar can get dunked if he gets baited into Renekton with ult and stuff but if he doesn't overextend, Renekton cannot really do much and it'll be a passive afk farm lane.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 16:08 GMT
#2268
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 27 2014 16:16 GMT
#2269
Sounds like it's time for a grudge match, Vampire vs Crocodile.
I am the Town Medic.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 16:26:59
January 27 2014 16:20 GMT
#2270
On January 28 2014 00:43 Sufficiency wrote:
Yeah Renekton won't even let Vlad pass 6, to be honest. The lne is almost unplayable.


Level 2 empowered EW is like 2/3 of Vlad's hp. If you are Vlad vs Renek your job (and usually prayer) is to not die before 9 and somehow stay fairly close on cs (and get a Seekers). If the two players are similarly skilled, Renek should win almost every time, especially since how awful Vlad is at gank support. That said, if Renek lets Vlad reach 9 without a substantial lead, then the lane is lost and Vlad will eventually reach godlike split push status.

As for the guy who said Garen > Renek...I haven't played in season 4, but that wasn't true in season 3. You can either E away when Garen pops Q, or get off Q and pop W before getting silenced, sit in the spin and win the trade. Garen also has the distinguished award of being one of the few top laners to get outscaled by Renek. Garen is also easier to gank.

Elise is annoying for Renek. It's tough to kill her, and her Q's start really hurting by level 3-4. Elise doesn't do as well if you shove the lane into her, though. Well played Lee and maybe Rumble are probably the hardest lanes for Renek.

On January 28 2014 01:08 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass


Pool is 30s. Renek will E towards you to force your pool, and then you literally can't get close to him when it's on cd. Renek's empowered W absolutely destroys DShield, and Vlad's early "sustain" is garbage. Early on your best bet is to bait the E while a jungler is there.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 27 2014 16:30 GMT
#2271
Wouldn't Vlad just lose all of the CS under tower? Vlad is like the worst CSer there is.
Freeeeeeedom
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
January 27 2014 16:30 GMT
#2272
What about Olaf vs renek?
Yarr?
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
January 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#2273
Olaf can win in the early levels because he can outtrade Renek early on due to lack of fury but once Renek starts to hit lvl3-4 he starts to win the lane back and especially post 6 Reneks ult is 100x better than Olafs in a 1v1 scenario.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 16:34 GMT
#2274
yes because vlad cant kite back and force renekton to take a ton of creep aggro when he jumps on you, even youngbuck used to say vlad is a counter to renek, i just woke up but give me 30min and im willing to play this match up few times if f any of you is on euw
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
January 27 2014 16:46 GMT
#2275
On January 28 2014 00:32 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 23:22 Slayer91 wrote:
no, not being a baddie is the counter to not getting tower dove 3 times in a row.
spirit fire leads to pushing and pushing leads to ganking and ganking leads to the black and white side.

On January 27 2014 21:14 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 21:11 Sponkz wrote:
On January 27 2014 21:03 Scip wrote:
It's kinda a self-own, because only a psycho like Sponkz would know what Ritalin even is :D

a good fucking joke though. I'd go ADHD for a week just to be able to make it

And the thousands and thousands of children given ritalin, despite not having ADHD or ADD.

Well yeah, we're more talking about how you still didn't recover from it.

User was warned for this post


What's going on here? First sponkz makes really weak and uninspired insults aimed towards me, and then Tolkien makes a really weak and uninspired insult towards sponkz and gets warned, and then scip goes crazy?
unless sponkz is really mentally ill, in that case it would explain his something something bad plays

On January 27 2014 21:22 Scip wrote:
You are tearing my fucking heart apart guys, I wish we could have a group skype chat where you wouldn't try to rip each other's dicks off at every time you are online at the same time. This is more to you tolki right now, it woulda been a fine joke, if not for the fact that nobody can fucking tell just how serious you are


Do I need to read the Skype chat to get some sweet drama?
also if you mean ripping each other dicks off in a sexual way, hot.

I think the friction comes from Tolkien being self-righteous and sponkz having an anti bully complex
the friction can only be cured by getting hot and sweaty and plenty of lubricant



Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 23:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Anyone here who's good at editing and all that? Need to make a clip and post on reddit. Epic Kayle ult by scip, ulting a full health orianna while someone died right next to him. Might not have the replay - Don't PM me.



wat


I meant in the EUW inhouse thread
I mean I can browse r/wtf just easier than i can browse r/aww i don't know how you're trying to disgust me

the 2nd part was scip highlight reel of all the times he failed ult last night (in bed)
aka Teutonica
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 27 2014 16:48 GMT
#2276
perhaps I didn't do what you expected me to do teut but perhaps that is a success in its own way :3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
January 27 2014 16:49 GMT
#2277
On January 28 2014 01:20 Sandster wrote:


As for the guy who said Garen > Renek...I haven't played in season 4, but that wasn't true in season 3. You can either E away when Garen pops Q, or get off Q and pop W before getting silenced, sit in the spin and win the trade. Garen also has the distinguished award of being one of the few top laners to get outscaled by Renek. Garen is also easier to gank.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 01:08 kongoline wrote:
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass


Pool is 30s. Renek will E towards you to force your pool, and then you literally can't get close to him when it's on cd. Renek's empowered W absolutely destroys DShield, and Vlad's early "sustain" is garbage. Early on your best bet is to bait the E while a jungler is there.


E is 18 seconds, Garen Q is 8 seconds.
you can't get both Q and W off before silence lands, and sitting in the spin is awkward because garen can kite with it pretty well.

How do you claim that renek outscales garen? How much garen have you played to justify this statement?
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 27 2014 16:51 GMT
#2278
I guess what he means is that since Renek keeps momentum during his Q, if you start running away when Garen runs to you, Q while he's in the AoE then press W you can activate it before the silence?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 17:06:17
January 27 2014 17:01 GMT
#2279
Not sure why you were quoting me the vs Vlad matchup, but I mean you Q Garen while he's in range, and use W before he hits you so that your first auto on each other is a silence/stun, and you attack him through the spin and then E+autos+Q and E away after silence ends. Pre-activating W isn't actually all important if you're going for a full rotation since using it after being un-silenced as an auto-attack cancel is higher burst; it's just important to get the initial Q beforehand so you get a second one back sooner. If you're behind you obviously can't do this.

Renek scales better than Garen in the sense that it's much easier to cc Garen. If he builds tanky then his burst and damage is lower than Renek's, and if he builds damage then he's much easier to kill.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 27 2014 17:05 GMT
#2280
you pussies need to grudge match more. give your purses to your boyfriends and settle this.

On January 28 2014 01:16 Alzadar wrote:
Sounds like it's time for a grudge match, Vampire vs Crocodile.


this guy knows what I'm talking about.

On January 28 2014 01:34 kongoline wrote:
yes because vlad cant kite back and force renekton to take a ton of creep aggro when he jumps on you, even youngbuck used to say vlad is a counter to renek, i just woke up but give me 30min and im willing to play this match up few times if f any of you is on euw


this guy DEFINITELY knows what I'm talking about!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
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