• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:10
CEST 23:10
KST 06:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)31Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) [D] Wireframe Casting Removed Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Etiquete rules in Asl? Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map)
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7959 users

[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 114

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 112 113 114 115 116 232 Next
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 15:37 GMT
#2261
On January 28 2014 00:34 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 00:30 kongoline wrote:
vlad


Dunno if you forgot, but Spectre's Cowl exists.

so u go even in lane and post lvl9 u rape renekton regardless because ur manaless with dumb sustain and mr doesnt counter that only burst and renekton doesnt have enough burst
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 15:40:41
January 27 2014 15:40 GMT
#2262
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 27 2014 15:43 GMT
#2263
Yeah Renekton won't even let Vlad pass 6, to be honest. The lne is almost unplayable.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 15:51:30
January 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#2264
On January 28 2014 00:35 Shikyo wrote:
Shouldn't rengar be still okay vs Renekton? Considering that Renekton is more about whittling and trading, the %missing hp heal should work well enough.

Sure, I main rengar and going tanky (9/21 doran shield + armor), maxing E for harass and nothing he can do to you, to some extend you can't get him out of the lane as well though, but to be fair who can bully Renekton out of the lane :-)
A risky strat with Rengar is to go offensive (21/9 CDR Glyphs) + elixir and you can pretty much kill him at level 2 or 3 and after that he cannot come back without jungle's help, Rengar just shits on him if he takes 1st blood with offensive set up, however, if you mess up and do not kill him or even worse - you die, then forget about this lane for a long time, you are going to die even under your turret, so its pretty risky, but possible
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#2265
Rango is decent vs renek.You both afk farm and cant really do anything to each other.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#2266
On January 28 2014 00:34 Scip wrote:
I guess Teut took ritalin at some point in his life
or he has ADHD

there is no other way that thing could be aimed as an insult towards him


I bet he cracks the rita pills with a spoon and snorts it like a baws
hi
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 27 2014 16:06 GMT
#2267
On January 28 2014 00:50 nafta wrote:
Rango is decent vs renek.You both afk farm and cant really do anything to each other.

That exactly has been my experience. Rengar can get dunked if he gets baited into Renekton with ult and stuff but if he doesn't overextend, Renekton cannot really do much and it'll be a passive afk farm lane.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 16:08 GMT
#2268
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 27 2014 16:16 GMT
#2269
Sounds like it's time for a grudge match, Vampire vs Crocodile.
I am the Town Medic.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 16:26:59
January 27 2014 16:20 GMT
#2270
On January 28 2014 00:43 Sufficiency wrote:
Yeah Renekton won't even let Vlad pass 6, to be honest. The lne is almost unplayable.


Level 2 empowered EW is like 2/3 of Vlad's hp. If you are Vlad vs Renek your job (and usually prayer) is to not die before 9 and somehow stay fairly close on cs (and get a Seekers). If the two players are similarly skilled, Renek should win almost every time, especially since how awful Vlad is at gank support. That said, if Renek lets Vlad reach 9 without a substantial lead, then the lane is lost and Vlad will eventually reach godlike split push status.

As for the guy who said Garen > Renek...I haven't played in season 4, but that wasn't true in season 3. You can either E away when Garen pops Q, or get off Q and pop W before getting silenced, sit in the spin and win the trade. Garen also has the distinguished award of being one of the few top laners to get outscaled by Renek. Garen is also easier to gank.

Elise is annoying for Renek. It's tough to kill her, and her Q's start really hurting by level 3-4. Elise doesn't do as well if you shove the lane into her, though. Well played Lee and maybe Rumble are probably the hardest lanes for Renek.

On January 28 2014 01:08 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass


Pool is 30s. Renek will E towards you to force your pool, and then you literally can't get close to him when it's on cd. Renek's empowered W absolutely destroys DShield, and Vlad's early "sustain" is garbage. Early on your best bet is to bait the E while a jungler is there.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 27 2014 16:30 GMT
#2271
Wouldn't Vlad just lose all of the CS under tower? Vlad is like the worst CSer there is.
Freeeeeeedom
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
January 27 2014 16:30 GMT
#2272
What about Olaf vs renek?
Yarr?
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
January 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#2273
Olaf can win in the early levels because he can outtrade Renek early on due to lack of fury but once Renek starts to hit lvl3-4 he starts to win the lane back and especially post 6 Reneks ult is 100x better than Olafs in a 1v1 scenario.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 27 2014 16:34 GMT
#2274
yes because vlad cant kite back and force renekton to take a ton of creep aggro when he jumps on you, even youngbuck used to say vlad is a counter to renek, i just woke up but give me 30min and im willing to play this match up few times if f any of you is on euw
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 27 2014 16:46 GMT
#2275
On January 28 2014 00:32 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 23:22 Slayer91 wrote:
no, not being a baddie is the counter to not getting tower dove 3 times in a row.
spirit fire leads to pushing and pushing leads to ganking and ganking leads to the black and white side.

On January 27 2014 21:14 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 21:11 Sponkz wrote:
On January 27 2014 21:03 Scip wrote:
It's kinda a self-own, because only a psycho like Sponkz would know what Ritalin even is :D

a good fucking joke though. I'd go ADHD for a week just to be able to make it

And the thousands and thousands of children given ritalin, despite not having ADHD or ADD.

Well yeah, we're more talking about how you still didn't recover from it.

User was warned for this post


What's going on here? First sponkz makes really weak and uninspired insults aimed towards me, and then Tolkien makes a really weak and uninspired insult towards sponkz and gets warned, and then scip goes crazy?
unless sponkz is really mentally ill, in that case it would explain his something something bad plays

On January 27 2014 21:22 Scip wrote:
You are tearing my fucking heart apart guys, I wish we could have a group skype chat where you wouldn't try to rip each other's dicks off at every time you are online at the same time. This is more to you tolki right now, it woulda been a fine joke, if not for the fact that nobody can fucking tell just how serious you are


Do I need to read the Skype chat to get some sweet drama?
also if you mean ripping each other dicks off in a sexual way, hot.

I think the friction comes from Tolkien being self-righteous and sponkz having an anti bully complex
the friction can only be cured by getting hot and sweaty and plenty of lubricant



Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 23:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Anyone here who's good at editing and all that? Need to make a clip and post on reddit. Epic Kayle ult by scip, ulting a full health orianna while someone died right next to him. Might not have the replay - Don't PM me.



wat


I meant in the EUW inhouse thread
I mean I can browse r/wtf just easier than i can browse r/aww i don't know how you're trying to disgust me

the 2nd part was scip highlight reel of all the times he failed ult last night (in bed)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 27 2014 16:48 GMT
#2276
perhaps I didn't do what you expected me to do teut but perhaps that is a success in its own way :3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 27 2014 16:49 GMT
#2277
On January 28 2014 01:20 Sandster wrote:


As for the guy who said Garen > Renek...I haven't played in season 4, but that wasn't true in season 3. You can either E away when Garen pops Q, or get off Q and pop W before getting silenced, sit in the spin and win the trade. Garen also has the distinguished award of being one of the few top laners to get outscaled by Renek. Garen is also easier to gank.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 01:08 kongoline wrote:
On January 28 2014 00:40 Shikyo wrote:
Vlad goes even in lane vs Renekton? Maybe during Renekton free week...

CC and gapcloser. If Vlad isn't far behind by lvl 9 I'd be shocked.

its 18s cooldown gap closer, 9-21-0 vlad with doran shield can easily sustain that harass


Pool is 30s. Renek will E towards you to force your pool, and then you literally can't get close to him when it's on cd. Renek's empowered W absolutely destroys DShield, and Vlad's early "sustain" is garbage. Early on your best bet is to bait the E while a jungler is there.


E is 18 seconds, Garen Q is 8 seconds.
you can't get both Q and W off before silence lands, and sitting in the spin is awkward because garen can kite with it pretty well.

How do you claim that renek outscales garen? How much garen have you played to justify this statement?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 27 2014 16:51 GMT
#2278
I guess what he means is that since Renek keeps momentum during his Q, if you start running away when Garen runs to you, Q while he's in the AoE then press W you can activate it before the silence?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 17:06:17
January 27 2014 17:01 GMT
#2279
Not sure why you were quoting me the vs Vlad matchup, but I mean you Q Garen while he's in range, and use W before he hits you so that your first auto on each other is a silence/stun, and you attack him through the spin and then E+autos+Q and E away after silence ends. Pre-activating W isn't actually all important if you're going for a full rotation since using it after being un-silenced as an auto-attack cancel is higher burst; it's just important to get the initial Q beforehand so you get a second one back sooner. If you're behind you obviously can't do this.

Renek scales better than Garen in the sense that it's much easier to cc Garen. If he builds tanky then his burst and damage is lower than Renek's, and if he builds damage then he's much easier to kill.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 27 2014 17:05 GMT
#2280
you pussies need to grudge match more. give your purses to your boyfriends and settle this.

On January 28 2014 01:16 Alzadar wrote:
Sounds like it's time for a grudge match, Vampire vs Crocodile.


this guy knows what I'm talking about.

On January 28 2014 01:34 kongoline wrote:
yes because vlad cant kite back and force renekton to take a ton of creep aggro when he jumps on you, even youngbuck used to say vlad is a counter to renek, i just woke up but give me 30min and im willing to play this match up few times if f any of you is on euw


this guy DEFINITELY knows what I'm talking about!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Prev 1 112 113 114 115 116 232 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 756
UpATreeSC 221
ZombieGrub108
CosmosSc2 65
JuggernautJason46
ViBE0
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 7
Dota 2
qojqva2965
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1614
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox291
Mew2King25
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu481
Trikslyr53
Other Games
tarik_tv8694
gofns4377
Grubby2340
shahzam786
B2W.Neo347
ToD199
mouzStarbuck195
XaKoH 189
Livibee74
SteadfastSC39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2099
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 96
• Hupsaiya 40
• musti20045 12
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 56
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2745
League of Legends
• TFBlade1033
Other Games
• imaqtpie1022
• Shiphtur568
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 50m
RSL Revival
11h 50m
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
12h 50m
Epic.LAN
15h 50m
IPSL
18h 50m
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
1d 11h
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
OSC
1d 15h
IPSL
1d 18h
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.