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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 03 2014 23:38 GMT
#3021
god bless america
TranslatorBaa!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 23:39:25
January 03 2014 23:38 GMT
#3022
Am perplexed by this, honestly.

Sounds like something fucked up his Visa, because this is highly irregular (for a European anyways).

If this were a Chinese or somesuch visa, I would understand.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 23:40 GMT
#3023
Though Dexter's athlete visa is in progress, it hasn't been approved yet. He had documentation to come to the US legally through a visa waiver, but was still denied access to an extent and for reasons still unknown. Dexter is not an employee or contracted to CLG in any way. He has not been paid by the company or any of its employees, partners, or affiliates. We assume he was turned away due to the assumption he was attempting to enter the US and obtain work illegally, so this ruling greatly disappoints us if it is in fact true. Dexter is still trying out, but it is almost certain he will not be able to return to the US until he is an official employee and his athlete visa is approved.

From the ongamers article already posted by Onlywonderboy:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/marcel-dexter1-feldkamp-s-visa-cancelled-clg-left-without-a-starting-jungler-updated/1100-549/
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 23:42 GMT
#3024
I suppose this has to do with Dexter only being a tryout for CLG so far. If he had already joined the team officially, he would be an employee already and probably wouldn't have problems with the homeland security?
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 03 2014 23:44 GMT
#3025
I cant login euw tsk.

problems, problems and problems...
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 23:45 GMT
#3026
On January 04 2014 08:44 Mensol wrote:
I cant login euw tsk.

problems, problems and problems...


I think it's all down right now. Possibly those hackers again. SC2 servers are down, too, according to the SC Reddit.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
January 03 2014 23:46 GMT
#3027
he's probably a german spy sent undercover as part of a 3-way deal involving clg, german intelligence, and the mysterious azubu criminals. i'm just thankful they caught him when they did.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 03 2014 23:47 GMT
#3028
On January 04 2014 08:40 UmberBane wrote:
Though Dexter's athlete visa is in progress, it hasn't been approved yet. He had documentation to come to the US legally through a visa waiver, but was still denied access to an extent and for reasons still unknown. Dexter is not an employee or contracted to CLG in any way. He has not been paid by the company or any of its employees, partners, or affiliates. We assume he was turned away due to the assumption he was attempting to enter the US and obtain work illegally, so this ruling greatly disappoints us if it is in fact true. Dexter is still trying out, but it is almost certain he will not be able to return to the US until he is an official employee and his athlete visa is approved.

From the ongamers article already posted by Onlywonderboy:

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/marcel-dexter1-feldkamp-s-visa-cancelled-clg-left-without-a-starting-jungler-updated/1100-549/


This is really weird. Visa's don't just stop working. Either the customs people he saw really REALLY screwed up, or CLG isn't telling the whole story.

USA's customs people are pretty famous for being complete assholes, but they don't just refuse people who have the correct paperwork.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 03 2014 23:49 GMT
#3029
it probably has something to do with his marketability
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 03 2014 23:52 GMT
#3030
--- Nuked ---
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 23:55:09
January 03 2014 23:52 GMT
#3031
On January 04 2014 08:42 UmberBane wrote:
I suppose this has to do with Dexter only being a tryout for CLG so far. If he had already joined the team officially, he would be an employee already and probably wouldn't have problems with the homeland security?

His problem, from my understanding, is that he came into the US on a waiver (but not a Visa proper). I'm not sure what the waiver was for, so I can't say why it would be cancelled.

Had he been officially part of CLG and considered an employee, he'd have a visa. Given he wasn't, and his waiver may be tied to employment (I can't say without details).


Reviewing the waiver program, it's for stays of 90 days or less, with a list of additional rules and regulations. Included among this waiver is the need for a round trip ticket (if he's staying for LCS, he probably didn't book one home), and employment is explicitly listed as one of the purposes the waiver cannot be used for. Just a cursory glance pulls up these two potential errors.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html

Basically CLG (and Dexter) done fucked up, and this is your typical 1st world response (Europe is the same). A Visa waiver doesn't cover what they thought it would (his tryout phase or somesuch).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 03 2014 23:55 GMT
#3032
Yeah I think "CLG screwed up" is a much more plausible theory than "The customs people refused him without cause"
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
DaBears57
Profile Joined December 2009
United States300 Posts
January 03 2014 23:55 GMT
#3033
NA down

Anyone else stuck at position 1 in queue?
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 04 2014 00:01 GMT
#3034
Seems weird that you don't want to play the meta supports but want J4, who is super boring and better suited elsewhere
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 04 2014 00:04 GMT
#3035
On January 04 2014 08:55 Ketara wrote:
Yeah I think "CLG screwed up" is a much more plausible theory than "The customs people refused him without cause"

Yep, customs is actually pretty snappy if you have your documentation in order. They don't even check my baggage when I was carrying ridiculous amounts of tea leaves in pretty sketchy grocery bags (my family meant well, but I was afraid it was going to look like I was smuggling marijuana or something).

Now, getting that documentation ranges from an inconvenience (other developed countries) to a nightmare of absurd proportions ("underdeveloped" countries), but you get the point.

I'm guessing CLG normally uses visa waivers (which should be fine if the players are simply there to attend a weekend tourney or somesuch at an IEM convention or Dreamhack or MLG, etc), but they probably (erroneously) thought it would work for Dexter too. Seems just like some lazy work.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 04 2014 00:15 GMT
#3036
I needed to play a few game on an account... And ranked are down -_-

I don't know why I gave this game a second chance :/
The legend of Darien lives on
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 04 2014 00:23 GMT
#3037
Why would you carry marijuana in grocery bags? Lol? They were probably like "why the hell does this guy have so much tea?"
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 04 2014 00:25 GMT
#3038
On January 04 2014 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Why would you carry marijuana in grocery bags? Lol? They were probably like "why the hell does this guy have so much tea?"

He should have just said he's British and they wouldn't mind.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 04 2014 00:30 GMT
#3039
On January 04 2014 09:25 Fusilero wrote:
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On January 04 2014 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Why would you carry marijuana in grocery bags? Lol? They were probably like "why the hell does this guy have so much tea?"

He should have just said he's British and they wouldn't mind.


Yea, until they threw that crap into the fucking harbor.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 04 2014 00:43 GMT
#3040
Almost 100% sure this is CLG's fault. TSM/EG had no problems.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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