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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 30 2013 20:48 GMT
#61
Europe is always so hard to tell. I think their strenghts seem to be midlaners + pure magnificent teamplay. At least that's how I kind of explained the discrepancy between their allstars performance and worlds performance to myself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 30 2013 20:55 GMT
#62
Wait, what's the thing with LD and Ocelote?
Ocelote founded a new squad after SK fired him, bought LD's spot in the EU LCS, then LD's ex-players got poached by various other teams? That's the gist I seem to get from the posts here.

And apparently we still have no idea what's up with Alternate, except that FLord seems to be retiring...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 21:39:25
November 30 2013 21:37 GMT
#63
On December 01 2013 05:55 Alaric wrote:
Wait, what's the thing with LD and Ocelote?
Ocelote founded a new squad after SK fired him, bought LD's spot in the EU LCS, then LD's ex-players got poached by various other teams? That's the gist I seem to get from the posts here.

And apparently we still have no idea what's up with Alternate, except that FLord seems to be retiring...

The most obv is that FLord will retire and that kerp is going mid and kev1n is going top.

The first try was to get incarnation in mid, but he wasnt unbanned after some tryharding on reddit and special website (http://www.incarnation-status.com/)
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 22:00:34
November 30 2013 21:54 GMT
#64
On December 01 2013 05:33 RouaF wrote:
We will see. My personal opinion is that on an individual level, krepo, yellowpete and snoopeh are very weak for "progamers". But maybe you're right and their experience/teamplay will let them do well, also NA lcs is clearly weaker than EU lcs.

There's the question of whether or not they can actually MAKE NA LCS in the first place.

Since they're buying VES's spot, they're probably 95-99% going to face Quantic, now that CoL has been gutted by roster changes recently. Neither Coast nor Crs will pick Quantic with the other major threat out, so the question is: can an EG roster with krepo/yellowpete/Snoopeh beat Quantic? Almost certainly not, after the past few weeks of improvement for Quantic, and with such a late roster formation to boot.

If not, they're in Amateurs until Summer.

And skill-wise, they don't rank as highly. The NA Jungler talent pool is shallow, but not so for support/ADC. Yellowpete ranges from average to mediocre compared to the major NA ADCs in both LCS/amateurs (wildturtle, liftlift, robertoxlee, even otter, honestly. I'd probably place him in Sneaky-tier, or slightly higher), and Krepo doesn't stand out in particular. Snoopeh may compare better, but how much better remains to be seen. It's not like they're bringing a (major) EU mid laner to a roster (see Bjergson), which tends to be the heart of EU play.

Not convinced at all.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
November 30 2013 22:53 GMT
#65
Honestly I'm not convinced either but are quantic actually good ? Because the few games I saw their play clearly wasn't lcs level.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:09:32
November 30 2013 23:08 GMT
#66
they are playing now vs LoLpro, check them out
http://www.twitch.tv/wellplayed
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:22:02
November 30 2013 23:10 GMT
#67
On December 01 2013 07:53 RouaF wrote:
Honestly I'm not convinced either but are quantic actually good ? Because the few games I saw their play clearly wasn't lcs level.

A few weeks ago I'd give the EG roster decent 50/50 odds, but Quantic has definitely improved as of late. They're at least NA LCS quality with the baron throws. :p

But no srs they're prob the best amateur team except for MAYBE crs academy now. CoL still needs to recover from losing pr0lly and Laute, and that's not guaranteed. They're no longer near indisputably top of the amateurs, Quantic's in that position now.

I suppose Lyon has a shot, and they're also pretty decently strong.

EDIT: Right as I reluctantly defend KR overlords, they throw 2 kills and a dragon with that super early attempt. Hue.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 30 2013 23:54 GMT
#68
Except now Quantic might get upset by LoLPro due to internet issues, so... maybe a breath of hope for the LCS teams?
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 01 2013 00:00 GMT
#69
On December 01 2013 08:54 BrownBear wrote:
Except now Quantic might get upset by LoLPro due to internet issues, so... maybe a breath of hope for the LCS teams?

Mostly EG/VES replacement. Though they'll have to face one of the other challenger teams (LoLPro is...for lack of a better word, pretty weak compared to the real powerhouses like CoL/Crs Academy, and yes Quantic).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 01 2013 00:39 GMT
#70
I thought crs academy was hella overrated before I read this page.
Carrilord has arrived.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 01 2013 00:57 GMT
#71
On December 01 2013 09:39 Slusher wrote:
I thought crs academy was hella overrated before I read this page.

They are to a degree, but they're still probably 3rd or so in the Amateur scene (behind Quantic, not sure if they're still behind CoL after the lineup shakeups).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 01 2013 11:16 GMT
#72
Krepo, YP, Snoopeh, Pobelter, Innox were scrimming together yesterday. Saw that when looking them up on Lolnexus.
Off-season = best season
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
December 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#73
am I the only one who feels that the majority of EG players are washed up kids who became complacent and still are living in their days of CLG.EU?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 01 2013 12:55 GMT
#74
generally when you start a post on the internet with "am I the only one", the answer is no.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 01 2013 14:26 GMT
#75
On December 01 2013 20:16 Redox wrote:
Krepo, YP, Snoopeh, Pobelter, Innox were scrimming together yesterday. Saw that when looking them up on Lolnexus.

Yeah well the fact that they asked to remove the Reddit thread pretty much confirmed the rumor anyway
Amarant1995
Profile Joined August 2013
Croatia155 Posts
December 01 2013 14:31 GMT
#76
On December 01 2013 21:46 GozoShioda wrote:
am I the only one who feels that the majority of EG players are washed up kids who became complacent and still are living in their days of CLG.EU?

Thats what they pretty much are right now . I really think outside of Froggen and Wickd(to some degree) , EG guys are done . When I watch Snoopeh play I can see he is not a top jungler anymore , he was the worst jungler in EU LCS in 2013. Only reason he was good in S2 was because the jungle meta was so easy and so broken that anyone could play it .Krepo and Pete peaked during OGN Summer 2012 but ever since , they have been on steady decline (Pete kinda improved by the end of Summer split but not enough to be considered top tier).

I dont have much faith in that team making LCS , I think if Quantic gets pass their opponents in relegations , they will be left for VES/EG/ALLIANCE and Quanitc will beat them since pretty much every player on Quantic is better then the opposite player(Maybe Pob is near same level as Suno).Those are my toughts on the whole situation . I like them as personalities but their prime time is over , no way they can compete on top level anymore .That Trio might just drag Pobelter and other guy down .
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#77
On December 01 2013 21:46 GozoShioda wrote:
am I the only one who feels that the majority of EG players are washed up kids who became complacent and still are living in their days of CLG.EU?

Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things actually. They still have gigantic loyal fanbases. However, if they do not qualify for LCS, It is quite possible their fandom will take a significant hit.
Amarant1995
Profile Joined August 2013
Croatia155 Posts
December 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#78
On December 02 2013 00:36 nojitosunrise wrote:
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On December 01 2013 21:46 GozoShioda wrote:
am I the only one who feels that the majority of EG players are washed up kids who became complacent and still are living in their days of CLG.EU?

Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things actually. They still have gigantic loyal fanbases. However, if they do not qualify for LCS, It is quite possible their fandom will take a significant hit.

It already did take a hit , as you have seen in the poll for IEM Cologne , EG was not even close to Fnatic and Gambit who are way popular now because of the results. Fans are mostly bandwagoners and cheer for whoever does well and even tho they have loyal fans , those numbers are getting smaller.They used to pull crazy numbers(20+k) while streaming but now only Froggen gets pass 10k sometimes.While Peke gets 20k+ everytime and Cyanide is getting more popular alongside Rekkles and sOAZ.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 16:31:22
December 01 2013 16:30 GMT
#79
I agree mostly, but I found it noteworthy that Froggen is streaming to 27k right now, with Cyanide and xPeke having 8k and 10k
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
December 01 2013 16:39 GMT
#80
On a related note, am I the only one who thinks EG are being idiotic with their secrecy around this? Considering they are supposed to play the battle of the atlantic soon they should have fixed a roster and started practicing by now (referring to the EUW team).

Obviously it is only a showmatch, but I dont see the profit in keeping silent for so long.
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