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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 18:39:40
August 14 2013 18:35 GMT
#5001
I've tried to narrow my champion pool many times, but I have this weird tendancy to Yolo Blaze it when it comes time to pick and I have an itch.

there was actually a point in Season 2 where I was undefeated on a certian champion I think I was like 12 or 13-0 before I lost the first game, and when it got above 10 I would get flamed in champion select by nerds who lolking their teammates for not playing said champion.
Carrilord has arrived.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#5002
On August 15 2013 03:35 Slusher wrote:
I've tried to narrow my champion pool many times, but I have this weird tendancy to Yolo Blaze it when it comes time to pick and I have an itch.

yeah that's what I've always been doing lol, I could play someone I know I'm pretty decent at... OR I could play Zilean mid even though I've never played him before in my life just because it seems like fun
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 18:41:19
August 14 2013 18:40 GMT
#5003
just keep in mind, it's a game above all else.

hell I played Vi mid last night, simply because she came up in this thread and it piqued my interest.
Carrilord has arrived.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#5004
I would wager you're most receptive to learning stimuli when you're having fun but this is totally speculation.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 14 2013 18:57 GMT
#5005
On August 15 2013 03:31 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:15 IMoperator wrote:
Is it true that you gain elo faster when you pick one champ and completely master them? Or is it better to have a few champs that you're pretty good at in order to counter pick or that would be better in some comps? Also, I wan to find a champ to play to diamond from plat 1, but the only champ I really enjoy playing and could play every game is TF, and he's either banned or they pick Fizz against me (fuck that fish, seriously). I wanna find another champ but nobody is as fun to me


It depends on how best you learn. Some people get insights into the game by sticking with one champion and observing how different situations vary around that fixed point. Other people get insights by triangulating from a variety of champions. Either way, the point is generally to be learning something useful whatever you are doing.

The surest way to gain Elo is to learn. The fastest way is to learn quickly.

Well, Elo is measured against others.

So you have to learn, learn quickly, and learn faster than everyone else.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 14 2013 19:00 GMT
#5006
On August 15 2013 03:35 Slusher wrote:
I've tried to narrow my champion pool many times, but I have this weird tendancy to Yolo Blaze it when it comes time to pick and I have an itch.

there was actually a point in Season 2 where I was undefeated on a certian champion I think I was like 12 or 13-0 before I lost the first game, and when it got above 10 I would get flamed in champion select by nerds who lolking their teammates for not playing said champion.

Sounds like my problem.

In chronological order, my last months have been tons of games in a row with :
Karma
Ryze
Shen
Wukong
Kayle

And now I'm back to rotating between champions.
The legend of Darien lives on
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2013 19:02 GMT
#5007
So, I'm trying to refine/condense down my champion pool to those that I want to play and/or excel in their various roles/lanes. Some champions do overlap, but I think that's ok. So far, here's what I've come up with:

Top lane - Riven, Yi, Tryndamere, Zac
Mid lane - Diana, Kassadin, Ahri, Lux, Ryze, Twisted Fate
ADC - Caitlyn, Ezreal, Varus, Graves, Ashe
Jungle - Zac, Diana, Yi
Support - Kayle, Leona, Sona, Soraka, Lux

Are there any champions you feel I should add to my list, and if so, who and in what role. I should mention that, although the most champions I own can be applied to mid lane, I play mid lane the least, so I'm trying to shore up my champions there and am willing to cut a champ or two from that position.

Otherwise, the only champions I'm looking to pick up (as I prepare for my ranked qualification matches) are Thresh/Blitzcrank, Karthus, Kennen, Orianna, Kha'Zix, Nami, Jayce, and Elise.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 14 2013 19:05 GMT
#5008
Question, how relevant is strength to you?
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2013 19:16 GMT
#5009
On August 15 2013 04:05 Slusher wrote:
Question, how relevant is strength to you?


It's nice, but I'd like to learn champs that require some skill/finesse to get good at them, because I want to get better with my mechanics, and sometimes brute force isn't enough for a team fight. Winning skirmishes is nice, but I find that winning in a 5v5 is more important.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#5010
On August 15 2013 04:05 Slusher wrote:
Question, how relevant is strength to you?

He's already playing pretty much only FotM/«OP» champions lol
The legend of Darien lives on
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:35:58
August 14 2013 19:34 GMT
#5011
On August 15 2013 04:02 Kinie wrote:
So, I'm trying to refine/condense down my champion pool to those that I want to play and/or excel in their various roles/lanes. Some champions do overlap, but I think that's ok. So far, here's what I've come up with:

Top lane - Riven, Yi, Tryndamere, Zac
Mid lane - Diana, Kassadin, Ahri, Lux, Ryze, Twisted Fate
ADC - Caitlyn, Ezreal, Varus, Graves, Ashe
Jungle - Zac, Diana, Yi
Support - Kayle, Leona, Sona, Soraka, Lux

Are there any champions you feel I should add to my list, and if so, who and in what role. I should mention that, although the most champions I own can be applied to mid lane, I play mid lane the least, so I'm trying to shore up my champions there and am willing to cut a champ or two from that position.

Otherwise, the only champions I'm looking to pick up (as I prepare for my ranked qualification matches) are Thresh/Blitzcrank, Karthus, Kennen, Orianna, Kha'Zix, Nami, Jayce, and Elise.


Yi I don't think can do very well vs. tops who know what they are doing as far as I can tell so far but I'm not going to be dumb enough to say I'm sure yet. He's fine mid/jungle, he just can't fend for himself in a long lane.

if mid is your least played role I don't feel like Kass is a good investment, he's strong but very match up nuance 1-5 imo. I have not played Ryze post nerf but I imagine it can be rough, and TF is a lot harder to master now with 4 second lock, but you said you like that so, he decently safe.

ADC-fine/well rounded

Jungle- Mabye add 1 AD that isn't super farm dependent like Jarvan or Lee?

support- ehhhhh Kayle is better at literally every position (even adc) than she is at support, I'm also part of the lux support hate train, any time you would say "lux seems like a good pick here" zyra is a better pick(opinion). Despite what it might seem like I was trying to say last night 'Raka's laning is pretty bad, and even though her lategame is strong, it isn't what I'd call rewarding/fun. Sona/Leona are super good, but I'd reccomend Nami over everyone else you have listed, Nami is the most fun support to play imo(and very rewarding).
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:45:30
August 14 2013 19:41 GMT
#5012
On August 15 2013 04:28 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:05 Slusher wrote:
Question, how relevant is strength to you?

He's already playing pretty much only FotM/«OP» champions lol


I'm trying to play champions that I enjoy playing. Of all the ones I listed, the only purchases I regret is Kayle and Soraka, and those are both 450 IP, so I'm not crying too much over them. Plus, both are kinda fun in ARAM, so...

Edit:

BTW, the only champ I bought for a FotM/OP reason was Kassadin, and I've yet o play as him so I don't even know if he's someone I enjoy or not.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:43:23
August 14 2013 19:42 GMT
#5013
Kayle is super good/underated but not as support, she's as bad at support as the people say.

either way I always recommend to new players to buy all 450 champions anyway so they can start playing Draft asap, Blind pick is for suckers.
Carrilord has arrived.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
August 14 2013 19:45 GMT
#5014
On August 15 2013 04:02 Kinie wrote:
So, I'm trying to refine/condense down my champion pool to those that I want to play and/or excel in their various roles/lanes. Some champions do overlap, but I think that's ok. So far, here's what I've come up with:

Top lane - Riven, Yi, Tryndamere, Zac
Mid lane - Diana, Kassadin, Ahri, Lux, Ryze, Twisted Fate
ADC - Caitlyn, Ezreal, Varus, Graves, Ashe
Jungle - Zac, Diana, Yi
Support - Kayle, Leona, Sona, Soraka, Lux

Are there any champions you feel I should add to my list, and if so, who and in what role. I should mention that, although the most champions I own can be applied to mid lane, I play mid lane the least, so I'm trying to shore up my champions there and am willing to cut a champ or two from that position.

Otherwise, the only champions I'm looking to pick up (as I prepare for my ranked qualification matches) are Thresh/Blitzcrank, Karthus, Kennen, Orianna, Kha'Zix, Nami, Jayce, and Elise.


alot of your champs are really bad 5on5ers and you have tons of strong 1on1/skirmishers.

id strike the following from the list: trny, yi, kass, kayle, lux. and then add a bunch of strong initiate tanks top and jungle to round up your pool. Bot you should have sth to you can peel with as for now you have buff/damage supports and a few gimmicks. Leo is a pretty situational pick and tends to lose lane if she isnt in the right matchup. lux has a useless ult for a support. try to add stuff like janna/lulu/mb thesh or anything you can pick if they have tons of strong bruisers.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:52:47
August 14 2013 19:49 GMT
#5015
On August 15 2013 04:42 Slusher wrote:
Kayle is super good/underated but not as support, she's as bad at support as the people say.

either way I always recommend to new players to buy all 450 champions anyway so they can start playing Draft asap, Blind pick is for suckers.


Of the 450 IP champs, the only ones I saw that caught my attention for being fun were Ashe, Yi, Soraka, Annie, Kayle, Nunu, and Ryze. The only reason I don't own Annie or Nunu is because I never played jungle or mid lane as I was levelling to 30, as those were roles my other friends normally covered. I usually played top, adc or support based upon what was needed, though my preferred role is ADC.

Edit:

I agree with shoring up my Jungler role, and I'm ok with J4 or Lee, as those are champs I'd eventually like to get, they just aren't high up on my buy list. I'd also like to get Nami as well, but again, she wasn't high up on the list because when my mid friend isn't playing mid, she goes support on Nami.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 14 2013 19:52 GMT
#5016
if you have 16 champions more power to you, my point was blind pick is not a fun mode in my opinion and getting all the 450s is the fastest way out of that hellhole
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2013 19:54 GMT
#5017
On August 15 2013 04:52 Slusher wrote:
if you have 16 champions more power to you, my point was blind pick is not a fun mode in my opinion and getting all the 450s is the fastest way out of that hellhole


Blind pick's ok, if for nothing else because you get experience vs. a wide range of champs that you normally wouldn't see in draft/ranked play.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 14 2013 19:55 GMT
#5018
I like Blind Pick. :< Ask Monte, hue.

Top: Renek, Shen, Rumble, Malph, Darius
Mid: Fizz, Panth, Kat, Wukong, Kennen
Jungle: Noc, Nasus, Eve, Zac, Udyr

That's my current roster of champions. I update the list roughly twice a month.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 19:57:59
August 14 2013 19:57 GMT
#5019
fuck Darius is so fun, talk about rewarding champions, Dunking puts a smile on my face every time.

I just can't enjoy blind pick, I'm with Yango on this one, All pick >>>>>>>
Carrilord has arrived.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 14 2013 20:00 GMT
#5020
If you really want to condense your roster, choose two per role. With nearly 4/5 picks per role, that's 25 possible picks. You'd have to play 3/4 games a day in a week just to pick each character once.

I'd also try to specialize in a role so that you can condense it down even more.

If you have such a wide roster there's really no point in limiting it.
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