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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
June 10 2013 11:01 GMT
#6841
On June 10 2013 17:57 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 16:55 wussleeQ wrote:
i wish there were a way to see all the skins that we have purchased. i have a feeling i have a bunch of skins that i don't know about lol.

There's a website, I'm sure someone that knows it will post it in this thread.


http://www.elophant.com/

download the client and just follow instructions ^^
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 10 2013 11:12 GMT
#6842
On June 10 2013 19:37 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 17:59 Alaric wrote:
Btw, how do you feel about the superweek? Apparently there's a bunch of things to settle for you and your team, so I guess the practice time they've got isn't optimal, and you're directly starting with a big schedule that could give you a great start or with a big deficit. How do you feel with regards to practice, if it's not too much to/if I may ask?


starting 0-5 would really suck, so we don't want to do that
that being said, all 4 of the "bot 4" teams last split had terrible starts last season and 2 of them ended up responding appropriately and ended the season strong. once we get things ironed out i expect rapid, massive improvement from my team. as you guys saw at the LCS relegation, i'm not the kind of person that lets their team focus on losses or mope. if nothing else we'll be the most confident 0-28 team ever 8)

i feel a 2-3 start from us though.

Thanks! I still think that according to that documentary you've got work to do to beat CLG on that "most confident 0-28 EVA" though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 10 2013 11:28 GMT
#6843
On June 10 2013 20:12 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 19:37 gtrsrs wrote:
On June 10 2013 17:59 Alaric wrote:
Btw, how do you feel about the superweek? Apparently there's a bunch of things to settle for you and your team, so I guess the practice time they've got isn't optimal, and you're directly starting with a big schedule that could give you a great start or with a big deficit. How do you feel with regards to practice, if it's not too much to/if I may ask?


starting 0-5 would really suck, so we don't want to do that
that being said, all 4 of the "bot 4" teams last split had terrible starts last season and 2 of them ended up responding appropriately and ended the season strong. once we get things ironed out i expect rapid, massive improvement from my team. as you guys saw at the LCS relegation, i'm not the kind of person that lets their team focus on losses or mope. if nothing else we'll be the most confident 0-28 team ever 8)

i feel a 2-3 start from us though.

Thanks! I still think that according to that documentary you've got work to do to beat CLG on that "most confident 0-28 EVA" though.

Speaking of US teams, are there any footages/streams of Ed/Cod training ?
The legend of Darien lives on
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
June 10 2013 11:29 GMT
#6844
On June 10 2013 20:28 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:12 Alaric wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:37 gtrsrs wrote:
On June 10 2013 17:59 Alaric wrote:
Btw, how do you feel about the superweek? Apparently there's a bunch of things to settle for you and your team, so I guess the practice time they've got isn't optimal, and you're directly starting with a big schedule that could give you a great start or with a big deficit. How do you feel with regards to practice, if it's not too much to/if I may ask?


starting 0-5 would really suck, so we don't want to do that
that being said, all 4 of the "bot 4" teams last split had terrible starts last season and 2 of them ended up responding appropriately and ended the season strong. once we get things ironed out i expect rapid, massive improvement from my team. as you guys saw at the LCS relegation, i'm not the kind of person that lets their team focus on losses or mope. if nothing else we'll be the most confident 0-28 team ever 8)

i feel a 2-3 start from us though.

Thanks! I still think that according to that documentary you've got work to do to beat CLG on that "most confident 0-28 EVA" though.

Speaking of US teams, are there any footages/streams of Ed/Cod training ?



Full game of the reddit-clip that is highlighted on the front page atm:

http://www.twitch.tv/robertxlee/b/414749803?t=25m0s
hi
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 10 2013 12:24 GMT
#6845
On June 10 2013 20:01 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 17:57 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On June 10 2013 16:55 wussleeQ wrote:
i wish there were a way to see all the skins that we have purchased. i have a feeling i have a bunch of skins that i don't know about lol.

There's a website, I'm sure someone that knows it will post it in this thread.


http://www.elophant.com/

download the client and just follow instructions ^^

ahh thanks for this!
BW -> League -> CSGO
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
June 10 2013 12:53 GMT
#6846
On June 10 2013 18:19 schmutttt wrote:
OK I'm going to be honest, everything I don't like about this game is summed up in Ryze, but I can't stop playing him because I like winning :/ .

Like I have nearly 50 games on him, haven't ran into any Cassio/Xerath/Syndra mains (Yet...) but it is just dumb how he gets 4 items and he's a god.


Good thing I ban him every game. Do you have movement speed runes? Ryze sprinters are the worse T_T
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 13:39:08
June 10 2013 13:34 GMT
#6847
On June 10 2013 21:53 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 18:19 schmutttt wrote:
OK I'm going to be honest, everything I don't like about this game is summed up in Ryze, but I can't stop playing him because I like winning :/ .

Like I have nearly 50 games on him, haven't ran into any Cassio/Xerath/Syndra mains (Yet...) but it is just dumb how he gets 4 items and he's a god.


Good thing I ban him every game. Do you have movement speed runes? Ryze sprinters are the worse T_T

ms quints ryze is lulzy

Edit: To OutLaw's response to my Khazix question, I've actually found decent success with Ori against him mid, but lately I've run into him a lot while I was trying out Diana. I always feel that I underestimate his lvl6 damage, likely because I don't take into account the bonus damage he gets by proccing his own passive with ult. How would you build against Kha mid usually? I've seen a lot of Dianas or mids in general build 2 drings/rush an armguard.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 10 2013 13:36 GMT
#6848
maybe its just me, but i feel like the majority of the time when you are playing against ryze just pick something that dicks him super hard in lane and he never really can reach that raid boss mode
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 13:45:12
June 10 2013 13:41 GMT
#6849
On June 10 2013 22:36 Frolossus wrote:
maybe its just me, but i feel like the majority of the time when you are playing against ryze just pick something that dicks him super hard in lane and he never really can reach that raid boss mode


and what would that be? people that pick cassio or xerath only for the sake of countering ryze and never played those champs will most likely get shit on.

My personal favourite is Orianna, good waveclear, can bully ryze relatively. Shove and roam and be almost as good late, as ryze.

Anivia is ok too, but even harder to play than cassio/xerath if you have limited xp with her.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 13:45:41
June 10 2013 13:44 GMT
#6850
On June 10 2013 22:41 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 22:36 Frolossus wrote:
maybe its just me, but i feel like the majority of the time when you are playing against ryze just pick something that dicks him super hard in lane and he never really can reach that raid boss mode


and what would that be? people that pick cassio or xerath only for the sake of countering ryze and never played those champs will most likely get shit on.

My personal favourite is Orianna, good waveclear, can bully ryze relatively. Shove and roam and be almost as good late, as ryze.

anivia
kat still does alright but less effective than before
morg still good
annie just craps all over him
as you said cass works
ori is alright but usually doesn't have the kill power to set him behind

edit: i feel like mordekaiser would still be a solid pick against him because he can push hard and tank stuff for days
thoughts?
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 10 2013 13:47 GMT
#6851
On June 10 2013 21:53 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 18:19 schmutttt wrote:
OK I'm going to be honest, everything I don't like about this game is summed up in Ryze, but I can't stop playing him because I like winning :/ .

Like I have nearly 50 games on him, haven't ran into any Cassio/Xerath/Syndra mains (Yet...) but it is just dumb how he gets 4 items and he's a god.


Good thing I ban him every game. Do you have movement speed runes? Ryze sprinters are the worse T_T


Does Cassio still counter him outside of early lane phase? I know a long time ago she used to, but then got her damage nerfed while Ryze got buffed. When I used to play the matchup (as Cassio) it only took Ryze a couple items before he can trade efficiently.

Every Ryze I see runs MS quints; they're just so strong on him.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11547 Posts
June 10 2013 13:48 GMT
#6852
On June 10 2013 19:37 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 17:59 Alaric wrote:
Btw, how do you feel about the superweek? Apparently there's a bunch of things to settle for you and your team, so I guess the practice time they've got isn't optimal, and you're directly starting with a big schedule that could give you a great start or with a big deficit. How do you feel with regards to practice, if it's not too much to/if I may ask?


starting 0-5 would really suck, so we don't want to do that
that being said, all 4 of the "bot 4" teams last split had terrible starts last season and 2 of them ended up responding appropriately and ended the season strong. once we get things ironed out i expect rapid, massive improvement from my team. as you guys saw at the LCS relegation, i'm not the kind of person that lets their team focus on losses or mope. if nothing else we'll be the most confident 0-28 team ever 8)

i feel a 2-3 start from us though.


So, since you are rich and famous now, does that mean i finally get that Graves skin you promised me for my poetry a few GDs back?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 10 2013 13:48 GMT
#6853
On June 10 2013 22:47 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 21:53 GettingIt wrote:
On June 10 2013 18:19 schmutttt wrote:
OK I'm going to be honest, everything I don't like about this game is summed up in Ryze, but I can't stop playing him because I like winning :/ .

Like I have nearly 50 games on him, haven't ran into any Cassio/Xerath/Syndra mains (Yet...) but it is just dumb how he gets 4 items and he's a god.


Good thing I ban him every game. Do you have movement speed runes? Ryze sprinters are the worse T_T


Does Cassio still counter him outside of early lane phase? I know a long time ago she used to, but then got her damage nerfed while Ryze got buffed. When I used to play the matchup (as Cassio) it only took Ryze a couple items before he can trade efficiently.

Every Ryze I see runs MS quints; they're just so strong on him.

as long as ryze has to be in relatively close range to cass and physically face her to unload his combo while standing still, cass just presses R and walks all over him
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
June 10 2013 14:06 GMT
#6854
On June 10 2013 22:41 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 22:36 Frolossus wrote:
maybe its just me, but i feel like the majority of the time when you are playing against ryze just pick something that dicks him super hard in lane and he never really can reach that raid boss mode


and what would that be? people that pick cassio or xerath only for the sake of countering ryze and never played those champs will most likely get shit on.

My personal favourite is Orianna, good waveclear, can bully ryze relatively. Shove and roam and be almost as good late, as ryze.

Anivia is ok too, but even harder to play than cassio/xerath if you have limited xp with her.

I don't know if it's just from facing bad Ryze players or not but I've found that Kayle takes a massive dump on him in lane.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 10 2013 14:11 GMT
#6855
I feel like Ryze is just a ticking time bomb. Doesn't matter how bad you shit on him in lane, if game gets to around 35-40 minutes he's gonna destroy most of your team.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 10 2013 14:14 GMT
#6856
On June 10 2013 23:11 ticklishmusic wrote:
I feel like Ryze is just a ticking time bomb. Doesn't matter how bad you shit on him in lane, if game gets to around 35-40 minutes he's gonna destroy most of your team.


Not even. Assuming he didn't die multiple times and isn't 25+ cs behind, once he has tear + ruby crystal + NMM he'll even straight up destroy those "counters" we just mentioned (cassio and kayle) 1v1 with his ult.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
June 10 2013 14:17 GMT
#6857
On June 10 2013 23:14 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 23:11 ticklishmusic wrote:
I feel like Ryze is just a ticking time bomb. Doesn't matter how bad you shit on him in lane, if game gets to around 35-40 minutes he's gonna destroy most of your team.


Not even. Assuming he didn't die multiple times and isn't 25+ cs behind, once he has tear + ruby crystal + NMM he'll even straight up destroy those "counters" we just mentioned (cassio and kayle) 1v1 with his ult.

Isn't the point of playing a counter against him to make sure he IS 25+ cs behind?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 10 2013 14:17 GMT
#6858
I usually beat Ryze with Cass, but the tipping point comes entirely soon for Ryze. You have to completely and utterly body slam him to keep him irrelevant, and against good opponents, it rarely happens.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 10 2013 14:19 GMT
#6859
On June 10 2013 20:29 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:28 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:12 Alaric wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:37 gtrsrs wrote:
On June 10 2013 17:59 Alaric wrote:
Btw, how do you feel about the superweek? Apparently there's a bunch of things to settle for you and your team, so I guess the practice time they've got isn't optimal, and you're directly starting with a big schedule that could give you a great start or with a big deficit. How do you feel with regards to practice, if it's not too much to/if I may ask?


starting 0-5 would really suck, so we don't want to do that
that being said, all 4 of the "bot 4" teams last split had terrible starts last season and 2 of them ended up responding appropriately and ended the season strong. once we get things ironed out i expect rapid, massive improvement from my team. as you guys saw at the LCS relegation, i'm not the kind of person that lets their team focus on losses or mope. if nothing else we'll be the most confident 0-28 team ever 8)

i feel a 2-3 start from us though.

Thanks! I still think that according to that documentary you've got work to do to beat CLG on that "most confident 0-28 EVA" though.

Speaking of US teams, are there any footages/streams of Ed/Cod training ?



Full game of the reddit-clip that is highlighted on the front page atm:

http://www.twitch.tv/robertxlee/b/414749803?t=25m0s

So this is Edward and Cop duo-q?
Terran
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 10 2013 14:20 GMT
#6860
On June 10 2013 23:14 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 23:11 ticklishmusic wrote:
I feel like Ryze is just a ticking time bomb. Doesn't matter how bad you shit on him in lane, if game gets to around 35-40 minutes he's gonna destroy most of your team.


Not even. Assuming he didn't die multiple times and isn't 25+ cs behind, once he has tear + ruby crystal + NMM he'll even straight up destroy those "counters" we just mentioned (cassio and kayle) 1v1 with his ult.


Since beginning of S3, now that boots aren't a required start for mids, Ryze does not have a weak lane phase anymore (I've been saying this for months). This is a problem because, as people said, he is a ticking time-bomb. It's is very difficult to shut him down unless you really know what you're doing, he's bad, or you get a lot of jungler assistance. If HE gets a lot of jungler assistance, you may as well just curl up under your tower.

That said, he is still pretty susceptible to heavy pushers. I've had decent success with Viktor still. It can be tough to commit the heavy aggression necessary early because of mana, but around level 4 or 5, you start to hit a stride where your Q and E do enough to fend off Ryze and push. Unfortunately, you're still facing a Ryze, so your team has to make things happen in a timely fashion.
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