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On May 29 2013 05:43 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 05:35 Chrispy wrote:We had originally planned for Aphromoo to take over my spot top lane when I stepped down. Unfortunately, after several weeks spamming top and taking a short break after this Spring Split of LCS, he decided his heart just wasn't in top lane. I can respect that. Props to Aphro and I'm sure he'll have no trouble finding a team to play ADC on being as popular as he is. I feel like Nien's heart isn't in top lane either and don't think switching roles is as easy as Chauster/HSGG seem to think it is. Could be wrong though. HSGG has got a point when he says the actually season doesn't even really matter and it'll give Nien plenty of time to learn it though. We shall seeeee. I like Jiji and Nien as people (is that the gayest thing I've ever said?) so I kind of want CLG to succeed more now than ever. Seems like all of a sudden CLG turned into the nice guy team lol. Definitely respect Aphro for not wanting to Top lane. Plus I really like his ADC and would love to see him picked up. I know for myself I just don't like the traditional bot lane in general. I will support way before I ADC though. Mid > Top = Jungle >> Support >>>>>>>>>> ADC
When I played more often, it was something like this. It's more on what I have most experience with:
Jungle >>> Support = ADC >= Mid >>>>> Top
Granted, that's not to say I can actually play any of these roles well. I learned jungle for a specific purpose, and realized I could make it work for what was needed. So, I kept learning different champions in that role. I then lost the purpose, and am all over the place in what I play now. So, ARAM ALL DAY! GGGG
I also want to say, I miss the beta days because I have such a lack of runes+champions. It's not that I'd play every single thing out there, but being able to change runes around for a specific champion in mind is nice. nostalgia~
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On May 29 2013 08:57 Sponkz wrote:
Can someone explain, why sometimes the turret switches agro, even though you stand in range? I was trying to dive with my top laner, tanked the turret without leaving the radius, but it somehow switched agro to him, and he died lol.
Who were you diving with and what were they?
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On May 29 2013 08:47 ArchAngelSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:05 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 06:52 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 06:22 JonGalt wrote:On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:On May 29 2013 04:45 Arisen wrote:
So, im starting another account because I'm tired of dealing with my ranked game bug, What bug? Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs). That's not a bug, not even close to one..... Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun. I don't want to sound like a negative nancy or the broken record that is the TL attitude of ignore LP but... 1) Do you think that your "long hiatus" has anything to do with losing now? OR 2) Ignore LP because it means nothing and just focus on improving. And if you don't like any of those, how about blame ELO/MMR decay due to inactivity and just wait it out because it will fix itself. Starting a new account for the sole purpose of getting into ranked again seems like a waste of runes, champs, IP, RP, and hard work! If you just want a smurf for playing with friends, then that's different. Or if you want to ignore this and go back to 2002 and make a new BWLoL account because it doesn't show your "true" skill, then have fun  Oh em gee, I am blowin' up my post count tonight. 1) I'm positive my "long Hiatus" has nothing to do with me losing now. I had played dota during my haitus, my mechanics are better than ever. The only thing i have to improve is my game knowledge. I'm playing support mostly, I always end up positive during my games, i place a ton of wards. I counter ward. People either go afk or go off 1v5 and die over and over and feed people. 2) My league keeps dropping, so I'm playing worse and worse players. It's not fun to play versus worse players. Even if I start winning now, i have to win 100 games right now to up a division (1 LP a win). I'm getting majorly frustrated playing the games I am now, hence I'm starting another account. Now if we could PLEASE get to my original question, that would be great :/ No one that I have seen is trying to flame you. We are all telling you the truth is all. LP means nothing, and is just for show, your MMR/ELO is all that matters and it's really low. Also when your MMR and LP even out the gains/losses will be normalized. So once that hits you will go from +1/-20 or w/e, to normal point gains/losses. So you would NOT need 100 wins, probably after 10 or so in a row you would see it normalize out. Example: When I got into Silver 1 I went from +20/-20~ on my games to +4/-10. After what seemed like forever (one month or so), I started getting better at the game and winning a lot. My MMR actually ended up getting way higher than my LP, and it went to +25/-6~ until it promoted me to Gold V. One thing I do agree with is the system is very frustrating in that aspect. I was getting so upset being stuck around 0 LP, but all of a sudden when the time was right the system recognized it, and basically forced me to be promoted. There needs to be some more transparency or LoL needs to be more harsh with demotions. I think it would be a lot less frustrating if it just demoted you to the right spot so you can get normal LP gains again. Edit: For what it's worth, I do fully understand your frustration as a friend of mine is experiencing the same thing atm. I wrote an tweet to RiotLyte about it, as I see A LOT of frustration with this from players. Hope Riot does something to make it more clear and less frustrating. If only Riot used a system that used just one number to show your actual rating. A number that you could physically see. A number that increased and decreased with wins and losses.
We have that. It's called challenger league.
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My favorite Mogwai metaphor is that LoL is like Poker.
Don't bitch about the poor hands you're dealt, but focus on making the best of it.
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On May 29 2013 08:06 Mogwai wrote:
Top lane Nunu >>> OP Junglers > Real Top laners > Fair junglers > Support = Mid = ADC
You should stream again.
On May 29 2013 08:04 Cheap0 wrote:
I think it's interesting how so many people have Jungle > Support > X > Y > Z, or Support > Jungle > X > Y > Z. I guess it reveals a different mindset that TLer's have about the game.
I'd say it's more because a bunch of regulars here are more level-headed than average, so we aren't as focused toward playing that one role/champ (insert mean but friendly diss at Scip here), and it's the community's perception of Jungle/Support that makes us default to that when we decide to just fill in the needs.
I always end up jungling in premade normals because apart from one guy (and then they usually send me top) who jungles from time to time, none of them play it, and there's even one who goes passive aggressive saying "I can jungle, but then you'll play 4v5 and I'll farm" (it's the guy defaulting to splitpush w/o wards with any single champ as soon as the team falls behind tho, gave up on teaching him).
On May 29 2013 08:17 MoonBear wrote:
Also for me, I'd say Support >= AD Carry > Jungle > Top >> Mid
I don't think I've played mid properly for like, a year and a half at least.
So you're always raving on stuff like Annie, Diana or their skins, but you don't even play them? :<
Edit: oh, just noticed what you meant by forum dropdown. Is it that good for visibility? I'm using to using the sidebar since... pretty long. Stopped even using the homepage before I stopped following SC2.
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On May 29 2013 09:06 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:06 Mogwai wrote:
Top lane Nunu >>> OP Junglers > Real Top laners > Fair junglers > Support = Mid = ADC You should stream again. Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:04 Cheap0 wrote:
I think it's interesting how so many people have Jungle > Support > X > Y > Z, or Support > Jungle > X > Y > Z. I guess it reveals a different mindset that TLer's have about the game. I'd say it's more because a bunch of regulars here are more level-headed than average, so we aren't as focused toward playing that one role/champ (insert mean but friendly diss at Scip here), and it's the community's perception of Jungle/Support that makes us default to that when we decide to just fill in the needs. I always end up jungling in premade normals because apart from one guy (and then they usually send me top) who jungles from time to time, none of them play it, and there's even one who goes passive aggressive saying "I can jungle, but then you'll play 4v5 and I'll farm" (it's the guy defaulting to splitpush w/o wards with any single champ as soon as the team falls behind tho, gave up on teaching him). Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:17 MoonBear wrote:
Also for me, I'd say Support >= AD Carry > Jungle > Top >> Mid
I don't think I've played mid properly for like, a year and a half at least. So you're always raving on stuff like Annie, Diana or their skins, but you don't even play them? :<
That's cause it's annie. You can't not like annie as a champion.
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On May 29 2013 08:15 NeoIllusions wrote:In other news... Looks like my talks with TLHQ worked out in the end. We're obviously and rightfully in "Others" but that is no longer toggled off by default. We also get our own representative link in the "Forum" drop down menu as well. Cheers all around, score one for the good guys.  Also thanks to Nazgul and TLHQ for not forgetting about our little community.
See? No aggression needed, TL didn't try to slight us ^_^
Glad this got resolved in a positive way~
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Screw her, Soniv's spending less time with Viktor because of her.
It's like Wave barely commentating or playing LoL anymore, y'see? Kids fuck your plannings up and make you spend less time on what matters.
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GG Neo, just noticed the changes on the top menu!
Also i'm glad that home is back on the top left corner, was still not used to it and I kept clicking filter lol
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I knew there was a reason we kept Neo around!
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I think Cho'Gath deserves a nerf. One unit shouldn't stun, silence, and scale, while dealing true damage.
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On May 29 2013 08:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:57 Sponkz wrote:
Can someone explain, why sometimes the turret switches agro, even though you stand in range? I was trying to dive with my top laner, tanked the turret without leaving the radius, but it somehow switched agro to him, and he died lol. Who were you diving with and what were they?
I was nunu diving with a Riven versus lux.
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On May 29 2013 08:15 NeoIllusions wrote:In other news... Looks like my talks with TLHQ worked out in the end. We're obviously and rightfully in "Others" but that is no longer toggled off by default. We also get our own representative link in the "Forum" drop down menu as well.Cheers all around, score one for the good guys. Also thanks to Nazgul and TLHQ for not forgetting about our little community.
Pretty important~
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For me it is Support>Top>ADC>Mid>Jungle
I play all roles fairly competently, although I hate to jungle and sometimes I do really stupid stuff because I don't play it enough. I think Mid might be one of my better positions, but I rarely get to play it because if someone asks for it I usually oblige. Otherwise the rate at which I play stuff roughly corresponds to how good I am at that role.
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On May 29 2013 08:06 Mogwai wrote:
Top lane Nunu >>> OP Junglers > Real Top laners > Fair junglers > Support = Mid = ADC
How can you enjoy being an arsehole more than anything else in this game -_-
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On May 29 2013 09:29 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:15 NeoIllusions wrote:In other news... Looks like my talks with TLHQ worked out in the end. We're obviously and rightfully in "Others" but that is no longer toggled off by default. We also get our own representative link in the "Forum" drop down menu as well.Cheers all around, score one for the good guys. Also thanks to Nazgul and TLHQ for not forgetting about our little community. Pretty important~
Went from more hidden to more prominent, I'll take it.
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On May 29 2013 09:37 schmutttt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 08:06 Mogwai wrote:
Top lane Nunu >>> OP Junglers > Real Top laners > Fair junglers > Support = Mid = ADC How can you enjoy being an arsehole more than anything else in this game -_-
he probably plays teemo too.
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He wrote the J4 and Pantheon guides.
(I saw him play Jayce tho, what a scumbag. Totally deserves those champ spotlights.)
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Thanks for the menu option Neo! TL LOL HWAITING
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On May 29 2013 08:56 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 07:35 zodde wrote:
People always want to blame something else than their own ability to play the game. Even IdrA keeps saying that his opponents make "stupid" decision, but in reality any decision that wins you games is a good decision.
That is absolutely not true There can be a decision that will win you the game 25% of the time and another one that will win you the game 75% of the time, the former option is always a bad choice even if it wins you a game. The easiest example you could find is some risky lvl1 invades, which will win you some games, but lose a lot more than they win.
I guess I worded it poorly, I didn't mean "wins you a single game". It's cheese, it doesn't work every game in a boX, but it's good to pull out once in a while, because if your opponent isn't considering it, it could turn into an easy win. Knowing when you to play risky and when to play standard is useful talent toi have 
Doing shit that some people would think "nah he wont do that, it's too risky/dumb/whatever" is a good way to outplay your opponent. IdrA (and many of other people) have this idea of ideal play in every situation, but the ideal play depends on your opponent, mindgames and all that stuff. So if you do something that's not expected because it's seen as subpar, and you win because your opponent didn't even take it into consideration, you won by doing a "bad" decision.
Edit: I agree with what you said, but I don't think that's exactly what I meant. It's late and I'm tired, maybe I'm just wrong lol.
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