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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 02 2013 07:24 GMT
#801
On May 02 2013 16:20 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:17 Kouda wrote:
Lux's shield at level 1 is retardedly underrated imo. 80 + AP scaling x 2 that refreshes if the skillshot hits coming back. ugh. Early 2v2 fights between jungler / mid or maybe bot/support with lux is pretty good for her most of the time.

You must have missed the last several GD discussions about Lux where people cited that was the most OP thing about her lol.


Was just reading the top post on page 39. :p should have quoted, my mistake.

It came up in the last GD thread too when we got on a Lux tangent. It's just interesting because it's a sentiment I see here a lot but nowhere else.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 02 2013 07:26 GMT
#802
On May 02 2013 16:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:20 Kouda wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:17 Kouda wrote:
Lux's shield at level 1 is retardedly underrated imo. 80 + AP scaling x 2 that refreshes if the skillshot hits coming back. ugh. Early 2v2 fights between jungler / mid or maybe bot/support with lux is pretty good for her most of the time.

You must have missed the last several GD discussions about Lux where people cited that was the most OP thing about her lol.


Was just reading the top post on page 39. :p should have quoted, my mistake.

It came up in the last GD thread too when we got on a Lux tangent. It's just interesting because it's a sentiment I see here a lot but nowhere else.


TL pretty mathy sometimes. lol.

Plus, we value the little things, for example we first place that like rara Locket OP.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 02 2013 07:29 GMT
#803
We also had Yango talking about going Warmogs on AD carries before anyone did it
Too bad almost everyone called him a troll for it..
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 02 2013 07:35 GMT
#804
not sure whats up with aram matchmaking

i get like lvl 15's on my team and the other team is all 30's.

i guess my aram mmr is like challenger tier or something.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 02 2013 07:39 GMT
#805
yay my first pro player encounter in normals

dj lambo technically doesn't count because he didn't become a dig sub until after we played him

+ Show Spoiler +
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to be fair we were full five on skype, other team was 3 and 2 and we had full coordination starting from the draft.

normals for nolifers. lulz
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 07:44:36
May 02 2013 07:43 GMT
#806
On May 02 2013 14:52 schmutttt wrote:
An I the only one who seems to think they nerf far more than they buff and it is a bad thing for the game?


Personally I think they adopt a 'blizzard-like' stance where they make things really strong then nerf them rather than make them average then buff them, the only problem is with a huge champion pool and the release of a champion every month (or whatever it is) it makes it near impossible to keep up balance wise, hence why many would claim there are too many strong/auto-ban champions

@kainzero

clean your desktop man :D
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 02 2013 08:44 GMT
#807
I just noticed I have the no IP bug, and don't know how many games I've had it for. Riotpls.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 02 2013 08:52 GMT
#808
On May 02 2013 17:44 red_ wrote:
I just noticed I have the no IP bug, and don't know how many games I've had it for. Riotpls.


I just need one or two games to get Lissandra, but I get no IP, so I'm thinking about buying RP instead. Riot scheme to get people to buy more RP?
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
May 02 2013 08:56 GMT
#809
They will probably do something like an extra IP boost for a bit when they have fixed the problem.
HOLY CHECK!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 02 2013 09:28 GMT
#810
Nunu is OP in ARAM right now - literally anyone who gets him crushes in the games ive played. IMBA sustain and AP scaling on that ult.

Nunu disappeared? Dont go near fkin bushes in fear of his "imatake60%ofurhp" Ult. I picked up a triple doing just that lol.
Useless wet fish.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 02 2013 09:29 GMT
#811
On May 02 2013 16:26 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:20 Kouda wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:17 Kouda wrote:
Lux's shield at level 1 is retardedly underrated imo. 80 + AP scaling x 2 that refreshes if the skillshot hits coming back. ugh. Early 2v2 fights between jungler / mid or maybe bot/support with lux is pretty good for her most of the time.

You must have missed the last several GD discussions about Lux where people cited that was the most OP thing about her lol.


Was just reading the top post on page 39. :p should have quoted, my mistake.

It came up in the last GD thread too when we got on a Lux tangent. It's just interesting because it's a sentiment I see here a lot but nowhere else.


TL pretty mathy sometimes. lol.

Plus, we value the little things, for example we first place that like rara Locket OP.


It's getting nerfed.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
May 02 2013 10:00 GMT
#812
On May 02 2013 18:29 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 16:26 iCanada wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:20 Kouda wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 02 2013 16:17 Kouda wrote:
Lux's shield at level 1 is retardedly underrated imo. 80 + AP scaling x 2 that refreshes if the skillshot hits coming back. ugh. Early 2v2 fights between jungler / mid or maybe bot/support with lux is pretty good for her most of the time.

You must have missed the last several GD discussions about Lux where people cited that was the most OP thing about her lol.


Was just reading the top post on page 39. :p should have quoted, my mistake.

It came up in the last GD thread too when we got on a Lux tangent. It's just interesting because it's a sentiment I see here a lot but nowhere else.


TL pretty mathy sometimes. lol.

Plus, we value the little things, for example we first place that like rara Locket OP.


It's getting nerfed.


It shouldn't be, why nerf a champion that doesn't need it.

Eventually Lux will just disappear, just like olaf who they nerfed every single skill at once and HP in the same patch. GG Riot.

All while releasing stupidly op champions left and right.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 02 2013 10:33 GMT
#813
They should make AD caster boots that give ArPen lol.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:01:32
May 02 2013 11:07 GMT
#814
On May 02 2013 15:26 cLutZ wrote:
3. I still dont gain IP ever.

It's a bug, there's even a notice in the client about that.

On May 02 2013 14:44 Sufficiency wrote:
So basically Riot decided to half ZAC's R damage. Oh wow.

No, it's the same overall, it's just that you do less if you don't hit all bounces.
(Hint: you still do 800 damage in AoE for a champ that's riddled with cc, tenacity, range, initiation and free tankiness and sustain.)

On May 02 2013 12:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 12:34 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 11:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I tried getting a custom Viktor phone cover, but they wouldn't print it because of copyright infringement or something


On a related note I hear Viktor is real good Vs Lissandra. Outrange her and every time she uses ice claw you can drop gravity field right on it and be like "bitch, I dare you to blink in this".


The only Lissandra I've faced was support and I tooled on her with Leona.

But I can definitely see Viktor doing well. He's still quite strong.

I went 21-0-9 against a Nidalee to test your setup, she hit 6 before me because she just auto'd once then ran to lane at 1:55, even if my lane was pushing, and she got a kill (she died first though). Then my team refused to deal with her even when I warded. Never again. x)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 02 2013 11:40 GMT
#815
On May 02 2013 20:07 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 15:26 cLutZ wrote:
3. I still dont gain IP ever.

It's a bug, there's even a notice in the client about that.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 14:44 Sufficiency wrote:
So basically Riot decided to half ZAC's R damage. Oh wow.

No, it's the same overall, it's just that you do less if you don't hit all bounces.
(Hint: you still do 800 damage in AoE for a champ that's riddled with cc, tenacity, range, initiation and free tankiness and sustain.)

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 12:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 02 2013 12:34 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 11:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I tried getting a custom Viktor phone cover, but they wouldn't print it because of copyright infringement or something


On a related note I hear Viktor is real good Vs Lissandra. Outrange her and every time she uses ice claw you can drop gravity field right on it and be like "bitch, I dare you to blink in this".


The only Lissandra I've faced was support and I tooled on her with Leona.

But I can definitely see Viktor doing well. He's still quite strong.

I went 21-0-9 against a Nidalee to test your setup, she hit 6 before me because she just auto'd once then ran to lane at 1:55, even if my lane was pushing, and she got a kill (she died first though). Then my team refused to deal with her even when I warded. Never again. x)


They actually buffed Zac's R damage if you hit all four bounces. It went from 800 + 0.625*AP to 800 + 1.0*AP if you hit all of them. You won't have that much AP on Zac, but Rylai's and Liandry's are quite common, so you will have a little.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 11:54:07
May 02 2013 11:52 GMT
#816
lol@complaining about tf nerfs. 100% pick/ban rate in eu/asia? seems legit

also did they just fucking nerf shyvana?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 12:22:30
May 02 2013 12:01 GMT
#817
Don't we miss the Cinder passive description to be sure? Or did I misread?
Edit: misread, no more 15% Armour Reduction. Unless it really deals a bunch of damage her dueling is going to take a fairly big hit.

And I hate playing against Elise. Rappel is about her only cooldown you can abuse, because Volatine Spiderling isn't that important and Skittering Frenzy will never be used unless you commit. She has about 60 + 0.5 AP bonus dps at level 6 (assuming 3 spiderlings, Elise having ~1 AS, and Skittering Frenzy not active) and if you try to trade she'll enhance that by further ~50% (Skittering Frenzy is 60% AS at level 1) while having pretty good sustain (a bit more than 16 hps).
Her ult only has 4s cd so it's even harder to abuse than Nid's or Jayce's, and it's not like you can just wait it out with a champ that scales well, since has a duelist she scales extremely well, and can often either outpoke or outdps her opponent, especially those relying on long cooldowns to fight (like Irelia's W, 10s downtime is more than enough for Elise to go back in before it's up).
Urgh. Even when I beat her she's just too annoying.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 02 2013 12:20 GMT
#818
On May 02 2013 17:44 red_ wrote:
I just noticed I have the no IP bug, and don't know how many games I've had it for. Riotpls.

2k8 IP for 8 days. I can't get Trundle. I hate this.

:'(
The legend of Darien lives on
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 02 2013 12:22 GMT
#819
On the topic of Wriggles, it's pretty damn good on Trundle.

He really likes the lifesteal, since it synergizes with 2 of his spells (Q gives AD and double auto, W increased regen), and it gives him much needed pushing power. I was very reluctant, but after playing 2 games with it, I got to say I'm growing to a liking.
The legend of Darien lives on
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#820
On May 02 2013 21:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 17:44 red_ wrote:
I just noticed I have the no IP bug, and don't know how many games I've had it for. Riotpls.

2k8 IP for 8 days. I can't get Trundle. I hate this.

:'(

I think the IP bug is the first league bug I didn't get on any of my accounts.

I should throw a party or something.

You're invited, entry is 10 IP / person.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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