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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 26 2013 03:59 GMT
#1561
On March 26 2013 12:25 DaBears57 wrote:
Xpecial mentioned TSM has a new manager named Jack. Anyone know who this Jack is?

Mr. Daniels iirc.
twitch.tv/cratonz
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#1562
On March 26 2013 12:59 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 12:25 DaBears57 wrote:
Xpecial mentioned TSM has a new manager named Jack. Anyone know who this Jack is?

Mr. Daniels iirc.

A man's best friend.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 26 2013 04:12 GMT
#1563
regi is one of the best mids NA
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 26 2013 04:34 GMT
#1564
Oh damn it Bly not that again
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
March 26 2013 04:47 GMT
#1565
Rofl, they gave hotshotgg an anime cameo
http://i.imgur.com/blkKPrK.jpg
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 04:52:10
March 26 2013 04:48 GMT
#1566
no Varus thread, i'm gonna start practicing him. Skill order, runes/masteries suggestions? Thinking either BotRK, zeal, BF midgame core, or bt -> shiv?

after watching Thorin's latest Grilled Interview with Dyrus, I'm gonna work on a legit stable of ADs and actually focus on fitting them into lane matchups and team comps accurately, and mastering them mechanically. What do you guys think of this list?

MF, Cait, and Ashe, thenVarus or Vayne or Trist

also think people are sleeping on Ashe right now. Her base AS buff was significant, I can really feel it when I'm playing her during laning phase, and after PD/BotRK
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#1567
On March 26 2013 13:47 tobi9999 wrote:
Rofl, they gave hotshotgg an anime cameo
http://i.imgur.com/blkKPrK.jpg


According to twitter it's called Zettai Karen Children: The Unlimited he appears in episode 12.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 26 2013 04:51 GMT
#1568
BT --> shiv is quite good on him but you can get BOTRK and see how you like it. Ive tried both and like BT better. skill order is E>W>Q and masteries are just standard 21-0-9
I come in for the scraps
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#1569
Just saw nyjacky miss lux ulti on baron, when he's right in the baron pit...
and this is the guy we call best mid NA? lol.
maybe just cutest NA.
liftlift > tsm
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#1570
beauty, thanks! You seem experienced, can you give me a quick rundown of your goals during laning phase? When do you go aggro, and vs who? Which lanes shouldnt I pick Varus into? Is Q max not good?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 26 2013 04:54 GMT
#1571
actually hell, let me add you on client so I can ask you a million questions if you don't mind!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 26 2013 05:04 GMT
#1572
On March 26 2013 13:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
no Varus thread, i'm gonna start practicing him. Skill order, runes/masteries suggestions? Thinking either BotRK, zeal, BF midgame core, or bt -> shiv?

after watching Thorin's latest Grilled Interview with Dyrus, I'm gonna work on a legit stable of ADs and actually focus on fitting them into lane matchups and team comps accurately, and mastering them mechanically. What do you guys think of this list?

MF, Cait, and Ashe, thenVarus or Vayne or Trist

also think people are sleeping on Ashe right now. Her base AS buff was significant, I can really feel it when I'm playing her during laning phase, and after PD/BotRK

I'm writing one, I'm just slow as balls. lol

I'm currently using 22/4/4 or 21/5/4 depending on summoners. AD marks work, but with the magic damage from W that ArPen(toying with the idea of mixed pen runes) are better for him. Seals and glyphs are standard. Quints are AD or Lifesteal preference. Core stops at Vamp, from there you build on what you expect.

I skill WEEQ, R>E>W>Q but Ive seen people go R>E>Q>W
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 26 2013 05:09 GMT
#1573
Hurrah for people writing champion threads!

Just sayin'.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 26 2013 05:10 GMT
#1574
On March 26 2013 14:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hurrah for people writing champion threads!

Just sayin'.

See a need fill a need. Just keep my damn Novell teacher off my back and it'll get done faster. ¬_¬
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 26 2013 05:12 GMT
#1575
On March 26 2013 14:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hurrah for people writing champion threads!

Just sayin'.

That shit takes so long. It's like creating a site, you've already got all your content, and then BAM! CSS tuning in your face.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 26 2013 05:19 GMT
#1576
VayneAuthority thanks a lot for the advice!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 26 2013 05:25 GMT
#1577
i would write a khazix guide but low elo know nothing right
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 26 2013 05:34 GMT
#1578
Put down what you known and don't be overly assertive with it as if you knew the truth of the world, and incite people to help by bringing their insight or correct your mistakes, then edit the OP with relevant stuff (the Vi laning guide is still full of bullshit and what isn't is actually a pretty nice collection of holes, to those who play her there—go say useful stuff so I can reword it in the OP and look good!).
As long as you have decent stuff (like typical runes, possible mastery trees, skill orders, basic core items and itemisation guidelines—Xin and Jax prefer HP over resists, Nasus the opposite, for example) and some reasoning so people know what to look for when they want to experiment/try for themselves, you've got any champion thread covered. The rest you'll find in the discussions that come after, anyway. See the Udyr thread and all the knowledge bombs Teut dropped in there over time for example.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 26 2013 05:39 GMT
#1579
i still think it would be better if we didn't have OP guides from players who aren't extremely good. it's illogical to prefer bad information to no information. is it an aesthetic thing, like a thread doesn't feel right without a guide up there?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 26 2013 05:46 GMT
#1580
What's this new Caitlyn meta of BT -> Shiv. I always feel useless on Caitlyn if I go BT first. Is it just to push down towers really quickly?
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
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