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[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 55
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AsnSensation
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 23 2013 22:13 zulu_nation8 wrote: for when you can use some damage on tanks but don't wanna spend too much gold, stacks especially well if you already have some kind of boost. For example you're a 5-0 xin jungle and you wanna snowball yourself even further, get a ghostblade and build full tank. But wouldn't the HP and team utility from the armor reduction on BC be more worthwhile for only 300 more? | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
Note: I'm a Nocturne Main, Vi/Jarvan minor when it comes to Brutalizer. I haven't tried Ghostblade on Jarvan yet. | ||
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Slayer91
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Bladeorade
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Slayer91
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On March 23 2013 23:42 Slayer91 wrote: neither are good just leave brutalizer and get LW the only reason for BC is to help out your team later on which isn't always a bad idea so dont dismiss when your AD gets 2-3 items for damage I think it's an alright pick-up, but only as an early buy on junglers if you get a quick advantage. It definitely needs changes IMO. | ||
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Slayer91
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On March 23 2013 23:42 Slayer91 wrote: neither are good just leave brutalizer and get LW the only reason for BC is to help out your team later on which isn't always a bad idea so dont dismiss when your AD gets 2-3 items for damage Oh I agree, I would never rush either. We had this discussion before where Bruta -> LW is best for Garens damage and just get BC late game to help shred tanks. I haven't played much Garen since the big nerfs but I used to go Bruta into full tank with LW and BC last | ||
AsmodeusXI
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On March 24 2013 01:05 Slayer91 wrote: What? I was talking about it on garen. Ghostblade is a fine item. Eh, there are so many characters I'd rather take Black Cleaver on and a slew of other items that are great to get early. I guess for champs that really benefit from cooldown, but I don't run it hardcore on Noct myself. How is it on Jarvan? Seems like it'd be good, but I'm so used to beefy utility Jarvan that I don't think I'd want to commit to it. He's good enough as is with even just a Brutalizer. Vi I've built it twice, but those were walk-over games anyway. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Only champions its good on early is Riven, and she prefers BT and MF for her ult shred. | ||
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Dusty
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Cedstick
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Bladeorade
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And even when fed on J4 I prefer mobos to any AD item | ||
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JonGalt
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On March 24 2013 03:06 Bladeorade wrote: J4 cant run brutalizer unless ridiculously fed. He isnt very tanky naturally, has only a small shield though it did get buffed. Locket is just so good on him. And even when fed on J4 I prefer mobos to any AD item What? Brut is only 1300 gold. I run one almost every J4 game I play and have like a 60% winrate with him. It helps add some damage if you don't trust your team to have a brain. Also the CDR is nice. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On March 24 2013 03:43 Alaric wrote: Isn't BotRK better as a single damage item for Nocturne? He doesn't particularly like the CDR (like Xin/Jarvan would, Vi likes it too but her W just makes BotRK far better) and the active gives him even more sticking power, while he gets a perma AS bonus for his passive and Q steroid. CDR on his ult is HUGE imo. Also seems you he gets enough AS from his W passive. I always like BC on him personally, the armor shred is very nice when you dive an ADC, within a couple attacks you are doing damn near true damage. Edit: Basically how I see 10+% CDR on Noc is mainly for his ult. 10% for example brings it to 162/126/90 which brings back basically his pre nerf c/d's of 160/130/100. I always feel like the more you can have a Noc ult up, the more plays you can make. | ||
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