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Hi guys, since there is no Kha thread yet, I figured I can ask some questions here for some input.
Okay so I picked Kha up lately since he is seeing a lot less bans than before in the last weeks at my elo (silver).
I usually go flask/2 health/1 mana to start and play pretty passive to farm that bruta asap and start roaming when I got it.
This seems like a good plan vs some standard mid like Lux for example ?
Then I went into some research and searched Alex`s past broadcasts for Kha fp play. In one game he was matched vs a Diana and he started red pot/ 4 health and skilled 2 levels of q and a point in e for a really strong all in at level 3. This seemed rly rly strong as he send Diana back ( or even killed her I dont remember exactly) but he def was the bully in that lane after that move.
It puts you obv a little behind in your build and you dont have that awesome lane clear with w so early, but in this scenario it was def worth it.
So when is this a viable start ? I figured against melee only ?
I was also thinking about some indicators to pick Kha. What are some preconditions on my or enemy team to pick him ?
You are def lost without good initiation, but this holds true for almost all heroes I guess.
To be more clear if enemy team already got 2 squishies I usually go Akali or if they 1st pick Zed or Akali I usually go Kayle (yes he is not banned at all in silver). So what are the "optimal conditions" to pick Kha ?
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On March 22 2013 07:43 sob3k wrote:I'm on chemotherapy... + Show Spoiler +haha its true, I had to say it. No I don't have cancer. If you are interested in my very entertaining health saga you can check out 1 2
dude, good luck with that in the future, hope you get well soon. I know from secondhand experience that chemo basically just sucks ass, regardless of why you're getting it.
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On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/
You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after?
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as TL's self proclaimed best khazix player you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help.
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On March 22 2013 09:31 samthesaluki wrote:
as best khazix NA you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help.
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I feel like Annie can make your pre-6 hell if the jungler doesn't help you. But after that you just need to get hex early on to avoid the burst.
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On March 22 2013 09:48 HolyToss1911 wrote:
I feel like Annie can make your pre-6 hell if the jungler doesn't help you. But after that you just need to get hex early on to avoid the burst.
or just outrange her
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On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox
#atleastimnotdelusional
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On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:#atleastimnotdelusional
Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.
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On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.
Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.
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On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed. Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.
Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something.
Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?
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On March 22 2013 09:47 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:31 samthesaluki wrote:
as best khazix WORLD you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help. + Show Spoiler +
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On March 22 2013 09:30 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/ You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after?
I don't remember that. It was probably before my time, but Singed is a troll therefore he should escape when he's low with extra cc reduction. He's not an ADC.
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On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.
He's not saying you're delusional, he was quoting Chaox's response where he called Doublelift delusional.
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On March 22 2013 10:30 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed. He's not saying you're delusional, he was quoting Chaox's response where he called Doublelift delusional.
Ah ok
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On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed. Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays. Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something. Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?
Not mad about Turtle performing well since Chaox has been really underwhelming, but you can't seriously say today's games were "good."
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On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed. Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays. Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something. Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?
He actually didn't outfarm Cait. He was ahead thanks to kills/global gold/TF but Nien had a fair bit more cs than he did.
That said he played very well. Dare I say better than Chaox?
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On March 22 2013 10:23 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:30 TheYango wrote:On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/ You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after? I don't remember that. It was probably before my time, but Singed is a troll therefore he should escape when he's low with extra cc reduction. He's not an ADC.
And he was totally fine doing it before his ulti gave him cc reduction.
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On March 22 2013 10:32 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox #atleastimnotdelusional Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed. Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays. Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something. Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt? Not mad about Turtle performing well since Chaox has been really underwhelming, but you can't seriously say today's games were "good."
I liked this part.
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