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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 00:29:08
March 22 2013 00:27 GMT
#861
Hi guys, since there is no Kha thread yet, I figured I can ask some questions here for some input.

Okay so I picked Kha up lately since he is seeing a lot less bans than before in the last weeks at my elo (silver).

I usually go flask/2 health/1 mana to start and play pretty passive to farm that bruta asap and start roaming when I got it.
This seems like a good plan vs some standard mid like Lux for example ?

Then I went into some research and searched Alex`s past broadcasts for Kha fp play. In one game he was matched vs a Diana and he started red pot/ 4 health and skilled 2 levels of q and a point in e for a really strong all in at level 3. This seemed rly rly strong as he send Diana back ( or even killed her I dont remember exactly) but he def was the bully in that lane after that move.
It puts you obv a little behind in your build and you dont have that awesome lane clear with w so early, but in this scenario it was def worth it.
So when is this a viable start ? I figured against melee only ?

I was also thinking about some indicators to pick Kha. What are some preconditions on my or enemy team to pick him ?
You are def lost without good initiation, but this holds true for almost all heroes I guess.

To be more clear if enemy team already got 2 squishies I usually go Akali or if they 1st pick Zed or Akali I usually go Kayle (yes he is not banned at all in silver). So what are the "optimal conditions" to pick Kha ?


barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 22 2013 00:29 GMT
#862
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#863
On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit

I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/

You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after?
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samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 00:31:54
March 22 2013 00:31 GMT
#864
as TL's self proclaimed best khazix player you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 22 2013 00:45 GMT
#865
#CyaChaox
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 00:51:03
March 22 2013 00:47 GMT
#866
On March 22 2013 09:31 samthesaluki wrote:
as best khazix NA you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help.


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HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
March 22 2013 00:48 GMT
#867
I feel like Annie can make your pre-6 hell if the jungler doesn't help you. But after that you just need to get hex early on to avoid the burst.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 22 2013 00:56 GMT
#868
On March 22 2013 09:48 HolyToss1911 wrote:
I feel like Annie can make your pre-6 hell if the jungler doesn't help you. But after that you just need to get hex early on to avoid the burst.


or just outrange her
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 22 2013 00:56 GMT
#869
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 22 2013 01:06 GMT
#870
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 22 2013 01:11 GMT
#871
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 22 2013 01:14 GMT
#872
On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.


Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something.

Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
March 22 2013 01:22 GMT
#873
On March 22 2013 09:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
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On March 22 2013 09:31 samthesaluki wrote:
as best khazix WORLD you pick kha vs everything, some mtchups you have to adapt ur style/need jungle help.


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i kid



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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 01:24:09
March 22 2013 01:23 GMT
#874
On March 22 2013 09:30 TheYango wrote:
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On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit

I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/

You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after?

I don't remember that. It was probably before my time, but Singed is a troll therefore he should escape when he's low with extra cc reduction. He's not an ADC.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 01:30 GMT
#875
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

He's not saying you're delusional, he was quoting Chaox's response where he called Doublelift delusional.
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 22 2013 01:31 GMT
#876
On March 22 2013 10:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

He's not saying you're delusional, he was quoting Chaox's response where he called Doublelift delusional.


Ah ok
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 22 2013 01:32 GMT
#877
On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.


Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something.

Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?


Not mad about Turtle performing well since Chaox has been really underwhelming, but you can't seriously say today's games were "good."
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 01:35:57
March 22 2013 01:35 GMT
#878
On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.


Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something.

Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?


He actually didn't outfarm Cait. He was ahead thanks to kills/global gold/TF but Nien had a fair bit more cs than he did.

That said he played very well. Dare I say better than Chaox?
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 01:39 GMT
#879
On March 22 2013 10:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 09:30 TheYango wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:17 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:05 Ushio wrote:
MY POOR SINGEDDDD. They didnt really need to nerf singed did they? Goddamit

I know... the cc reduction is a part of what singed is if they were really thinking of taking that away from him :/

You mean like how the 4k gold of offensive stats was part of what Singed was when they took it away to give him the CC reduction--and he was more or less the same hero before and after?

I don't remember that. It was probably before my time, but Singed is a troll therefore he should escape when he's low with extra cc reduction. He's not an ADC.

And he was totally fine doing it before his ulti gave him cc reduction.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 01:42 GMT
#880
On March 22 2013 10:32 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 10:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 10:11 xes wrote:
On March 22 2013 10:06 Shotcoder wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:56 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 22 2013 09:45 Shotcoder wrote:
#CyaChaox

#atleastimnotdelusional


Nah I know he's not gone. Just cool to See Turtle come in and perform so well. Was pretty amazing how well he played those two games. Great game plan and pretty well executed.

Translation: good to see that Turtle isn't totally fucking awful and is able to exploit the situation when the enemy team makes huge misplays.


Lol? in both games he played exceptionally well. I have no idea what you're talking about. He kited well in teamfights and punished them with draven damage because he was able to out farm caitlyn. It;s like exploiting misplays is against the rules of the game or something.

Oddone vs MRN also made good desicion making to give up his jungle in favor of helping hold mid so Turtle and Xpecial could take bottom. WHy so butthurt?


Not mad about Turtle performing well since Chaox has been really underwhelming, but you can't seriously say today's games were "good."

I liked this part.
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