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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 19:56:39
March 16 2013 19:56 GMT
#3301
edit: nvrmnd
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 16 2013 22:49 GMT
#3302
I vaguely remember a rule about Tribunal discussions in the LoL GD...
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
March 16 2013 23:03 GMT
#3303
On March 17 2013 07:49 MoonBear wrote:
I vaguely remember a rule about Tribunal discussions in the LoL GD...

It was summed up by STAHP.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 16 2013 23:13 GMT
#3304
We do have a tribunal thread for that, right? It's lying at the bottom of the forum somewhere...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 17 2013 00:19 GMT
#3305
On March 16 2013 14:13 Alaric wrote:
They have health costs, but RoG doesn't have updated them yet (they could since they have preview videos, but I don't know if they edit their datamining accordingly or just keep it at what's in the files). Didn't seem as impactful as Mundo's W from the video, though.

Edit: nvm, they just did it. Apparently he's paying in %current health, which means resistances are probably going to be better on him than HP, actually (especially since the bloblets from his passive only have 10% of his max HP but half of his resistances), and his ult seems to be frree (reminds me of the energy champs). His E would be pretty costly, at 12% current health. Along with the pretty long CD I'm not sure if he's going to be better than Lee/J4/Vi at sneaky ganks, but he has a ganking kit anyway.


If you're paying in % current health then resistances over health change neither the effective HP regen or the effective HP cost of skills. Such you should but whichever provides the highest effective HP bonus (which is, in this case, health)
bingbing
Profile Joined March 2013
United States3 Posts
March 17 2013 00:24 GMT
#3306
So what's the best way to watch replays? I downloaded LoL Recorder yesterday and the program seems fine but the site is either really slow to load or doesn't load at all. Is there another site I can use to get replays to watch or something?

I read a while ago that replays are in alpha testing on PBE. I wonder when that's going to get implemented.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 17 2013 00:30 GMT
#3307
On March 17 2013 09:19 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 14:13 Alaric wrote:
They have health costs, but RoG doesn't have updated them yet (they could since they have preview videos, but I don't know if they edit their datamining accordingly or just keep it at what's in the files). Didn't seem as impactful as Mundo's W from the video, though.

Edit: nvm, they just did it. Apparently he's paying in %current health, which means resistances are probably going to be better on him than HP, actually (especially since the bloblets from his passive only have 10% of his max HP but half of his resistances), and his ult seems to be frree (reminds me of the energy champs). His E would be pretty costly, at 12% current health. Along with the pretty long CD I'm not sure if he's going to be better than Lee/J4/Vi at sneaky ganks, but he has a ganking kit anyway.


If you're paying in % current health then resistances over health change neither the effective HP regen or the effective HP cost of skills. Such you should but whichever provides the highest effective HP bonus (which is, in this case, health)

I meant that flat health would give incentive to build HP, while %HP doesn't go one way or the other. His passive, on the other hand, keeps higher resistances % than HP % on the bloblets, so resistances should be prioritised, I believe.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 17 2013 00:32 GMT
#3308
On March 17 2013 09:24 bingbing wrote:
So what's the best way to watch replays? I downloaded LoL Recorder yesterday and the program seems fine but the site is either really slow to load or doesn't load at all. Is there another site I can use to get replays to watch or something?

I read a while ago that replays are in alpha testing on PBE. I wonder when that's going to get implemented.

The current best way is to use lolreplay or to use fpvods from something like fraps if you can handle it.

You are correct that a replay system is in the works.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11436 Posts
March 17 2013 00:55 GMT
#3309
On March 17 2013 09:30 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 09:19 Goumindong wrote:
On March 16 2013 14:13 Alaric wrote:
They have health costs, but RoG doesn't have updated them yet (they could since they have preview videos, but I don't know if they edit their datamining accordingly or just keep it at what's in the files). Didn't seem as impactful as Mundo's W from the video, though.

Edit: nvm, they just did it. Apparently he's paying in %current health, which means resistances are probably going to be better on him than HP, actually (especially since the bloblets from his passive only have 10% of his max HP but half of his resistances), and his ult seems to be frree (reminds me of the energy champs). His E would be pretty costly, at 12% current health. Along with the pretty long CD I'm not sure if he's going to be better than Lee/J4/Vi at sneaky ganks, but he has a ganking kit anyway.


If you're paying in % current health then resistances over health change neither the effective HP regen or the effective HP cost of skills. Such you should but whichever provides the highest effective HP bonus (which is, in this case, health)

I meant that flat health would give incentive to build HP, while %HP doesn't go one way or the other. His passive, on the other hand, keeps higher resistances % than HP % on the bloblets, so resistances should be prioritised, I believe.


No, not really. First of all, you get 4 bloblets, which equals 40% of your total HP across them, each with 50% of your resistances. Furthermore, even if the bloblets would get 100% of your resistances, they would still simply have 10% of your EHP, meaning that you can ignore them in any calculations and just build for EHP. Since they only gain 50% of your resistances, this actually lowers the value resistances have for you. % Health effects don't have any effect on the effective value of resistances in comparison to health, since they are basically only multiplier of your EHP, see Mundo regarding this.

So if you look at the total EHP of Zac, you have 100% of your health at 100% resistances + 40% of your health at 50% resistances and more susceptible to AoE, which we ignore for simplicity's sake. Let's do a simple example here. Let's say you have 1000 hp, since people understand numbers more then variables for some reason. Usually, going from 0 to 100 resistance doubles your EHP if you ignore that sort of effect. At 0 resistances, Zac would have 1400 EHP. At 100 resistances, he has 2600. Which, instead of the 100% EHP increase other champions would get by going from 0 to 100 resistances, is only a 86% increase. This effect gets reduces the higher your resistances are, but at any given point Health is worth slightly more in comparison to resistances for Zac when compared to a champion with no health/resistance effects built in.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 17 2013 01:42 GMT
#3310
finally promoted to platinum 5 :D
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 17 2013 01:43 GMT
#3311
Ugh, if I play one more ranked game I'll actually be placed. Then I might have to play more to make sure I don't look completely horrid. I kinda prefer never having to play ranked because then I can just play with friends in normals and not give a damn about wins and not wins and I don't gotta label myself a X rank player. I can just be a player..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 02:42:04
March 17 2013 02:20 GMT
#3312
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 17 2013 02:52 GMT
#3313
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.


Stream looks good.

lol the double neg buy instead of completing SV
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35127 Posts
March 17 2013 03:41 GMT
#3314
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.

Pretty smooth visually. Game sound is clear, music is barely noticable. Not sure what mix you're going for there, so I'm just putting it out there.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 17 2013 03:43 GMT
#3315
On March 17 2013 12:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.

Pretty smooth visually. Game sound is clear, music is barely noticable. Not sure what mix you're going for there, so I'm just putting it out there.


Basically whatever is in my playlist, which is a bunch of classic rock, some metal and a lot of Badministrator/Plentakill.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 17 2013 03:46 GMT
#3316
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.


I tune in, I hear Rush. I like this stream already
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 17 2013 03:49 GMT
#3317
On March 17 2013 12:43 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:41 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.

Pretty smooth visually. Game sound is clear, music is barely noticable. Not sure what mix you're going for there, so I'm just putting it out there.


Basically whatever is in my playlist, which is a bunch of classic rock, some metal and a lot of Badministrator/Plentakill.


I don't think that was the question lol.

He was talking about the music:game sound ratio
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 17 2013 04:03 GMT
#3318
Oh.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
March 17 2013 04:14 GMT
#3319
On March 17 2013 12:46 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.


I tune in, I hear Rush. I like this stream already


I was all for this stream until you skipped the Escaflowne battle music..then I got kinda angry.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 04:31:16
March 17 2013 04:30 GMT
#3320
On March 17 2013 13:14 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:46 Louuster wrote:
On March 17 2013 11:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gonna test streaming, no promises that I will stream for long though,.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/57 Corvette

Edit: So far so good.


I tune in, I hear Rush. I like this stream already


I was all for this stream until you skipped the Escaflowne battle music..then I got kinda angry.


I don't know what Escaflowne battle music is. Most likely it was a Badministrator/plentakill song I decided to skip.

Anyways, done for the night. Probably gonna stream tommorow.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
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