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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 15 2013 00:43 GMT
#2981
http://leagueanalysis.blogspot.tw/2013/03/lanning-set-ups-we-in-season-3.html?m=1

Anyone take a look at this? Interesting stuff...plus I've read enough crit discussion for one day
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 15 2013 00:45 GMT
#2982
On March 15 2013 08:40 cLutZ wrote:
If 1 Crit didn't affect the outcome of a game people wouldn't be so afraid of a charged Ashe passive at lvl 1.

Difference is, charged ashe crit isn't rng. It's a 100% outcome........
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 15 2013 01:01 GMT
#2983
On March 15 2013 09:39 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crits really arent that big of a deal. Not since after critplank have I seen anyone lose lane because of random crits.


Pls imagine a draven axe crit.Almost instant win lane lolz.


you pot up or go back heal and miss a wave, not that big of a deal like i said
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 15 2013 01:02 GMT
#2984
On March 15 2013 09:28 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:03 overt wrote:
On March 15 2013 08:40 cLutZ wrote:
If 1 Crit didn't affect the outcome of a game people wouldn't be so afraid of a charged Ashe passive at lvl 1.


I dunno if afraid is the right word. It's more, "don't be stupid and face check that bush because they have an Ashe." Even if she gets a level 1 crit off it usually just sets you a bit behind at level 1. Which admittedly is a bigger deal in S3 since every ADC opens Dblade.

Even if Ashe uses her 1 crit at level 1 and you play so stupid that you end up giving first blood partially due to it...it's not the crit that gave Ashe first blood. It's you playing stupid. And even giving a team first blood doesn't guarantee a loss.

Besides all of that, once you have at least IE+Zeal getting crits aren't as random or lucky anymore. They're guaranteed to happen with the system Riot uses.


Its not about playing stupid, its that it changes what playing smart is. You can go from a strong lane that needs to shutdown Ashe early, to one that needs jungle pressure to do so.

Playing smart is a dumb saying, because it assumes the other side does not.


If both players are playing smart Ashe isn't going to get her level 1 crit off. Unless her team is doing some kind of gimmicky cheese or she tanks minions (and in the former that's a completely different discussion and in the latter she'll likely end up taking too much damage).
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 15 2013 01:04 GMT
#2985
On March 15 2013 09:43 Mondeezy wrote:
http://leagueanalysis.blogspot.tw/2013/03/lanning-set-ups-we-in-season-3.html?m=1

Anyone take a look at this? Interesting stuff...plus I've read enough crit discussion for one day


who wrote this?
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 15 2013 01:05 GMT
#2986
On March 15 2013 09:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crits really arent that big of a deal. Not since after critplank have I seen anyone lose lane because of random crits.




Critplank's still alive and kicking baby.

That right there is evidence enough to always run 1% crit never not run 1% crit imo.

Also feel kinda scumbaggy for linking my video, sorry! I try not to use TL for that but this seemed relevant.
Retvrn to Forvms
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 01:12:29
March 15 2013 01:11 GMT
#2987
On March 15 2013 10:04 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:43 Mondeezy wrote:
http://leagueanalysis.blogspot.tw/2013/03/lanning-set-ups-we-in-season-3.html?m=1

Anyone take a look at this? Interesting stuff...plus I've read enough crit discussion for one day


who wrote this?


Dunno, I'm in class so I'm just browsing through it. Why?

Edit: here's the Reddit post I got it from http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ab6p6/team_we_strats_and_opennings/
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 15 2013 01:14 GMT
#2988
wtf, since when did u do youtube chrispy :o
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 15 2013 01:14 GMT
#2989
That video was pretty funny. I think you played the music a little bit late though. I didn't even notice when you crit the first time.

I think random crits only matter on Gangplank parley, otherwise they don't feel very significant. Doesnt League have some sort of way to make sure you crit around the % chance that is listed in your character sheet anyway? Like if you're % chance is 20, and you crit, it lowers the chance of a crit for the next 4 attacks.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 01:21:57
March 15 2013 01:19 GMT
#2990
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 01:24:06
March 15 2013 01:23 GMT
#2991
Yeah, I think I should have also shown more of Yi's path from blue buff and spent less time on Snoop Lion + my rune page. I am but a nooblord at video editing though, need master shakedrizzle to teach me the ways.

edit: numbers'd.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 15 2013 01:38 GMT
#2992
Okay that video just made me crack up for a whole minute, tyty
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 15 2013 01:47 GMT
#2993
On March 15 2013 10:05 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crits really arent that big of a deal. Not since after critplank have I seen anyone lose lane because of random crits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwmkg0uNRg

Critplank's still alive and kicking baby.

That right there is evidence enough to always run 1% crit never not run 1% crit imo.

Also feel kinda scumbaggy for linking my video, sorry! I try not to use TL for that but this seemed relevant.

Now I know what the SC in ChrispySC stands for. :o
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 15 2013 01:49 GMT
#2994
On March 15 2013 10:05 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crits really arent that big of a deal. Not since after critplank have I seen anyone lose lane because of random crits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwmkg0uNRg

Critplank's still alive and kicking baby.

That right there is evidence enough to always run 1% crit never not run 1% crit imo.

Also feel kinda scumbaggy for linking my video, sorry! I try not to use TL for that but this seemed relevant.


Oh god I love you for that video. Full on homo, come at me bro.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 15 2013 01:51 GMT
#2995
On March 15 2013 09:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 08:40 cLutZ wrote:
If 1 Crit didn't affect the outcome of a game people wouldn't be so afraid of a charged Ashe passive at lvl 1.

Difference is, charged ashe crit isn't rng. It's a 100% outcome........


Yes, and thus the other side can plan for it, and also Ashe is balanced around it. Just like Caitlyn Headshots and other similar, Predictable, damage boosts. But if you are facing a Caitlyn who gets lucky at lvl 1 and gets a crit, that is unpredicatble, and conveys a similar advantage.

All that said, I think crit is good for the game at later levels (unlike manaless and stealth) so I accept its crappiness for the early laning phase.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 15 2013 01:51 GMT
#2996
On March 15 2013 10:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 10:05 Chrispy wrote:
On March 15 2013 09:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
crits really arent that big of a deal. Not since after critplank have I seen anyone lose lane because of random crits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwmkg0uNRg

Critplank's still alive and kicking baby.

That right there is evidence enough to always run 1% crit never not run 1% crit imo.

Also feel kinda scumbaggy for linking my video, sorry! I try not to use TL for that but this seemed relevant.


Oh god I love you for that video. Full on homo, come on me bro.

fix'd that for you.
liftlift > tsm
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
March 15 2013 01:54 GMT
#2997
On March 14 2013 07:04 RagequitBM wrote:
Jeez. Every episode of Gamecribs makes me dislike Regi more, and more. He just acts so toxic.
On the flip side, every episode makes me like Xpecial, oddone, and Dyrus more.

And I think a big reason TSM came back is because Kog maw is incomparably stronger late game than Ezreal. Especially with what Zuna built.


I find it funny how much crap someone like HSGG cops when it is obvious that regi has a shit attitude and his ingame performance has been rubbish (At least HS has had some good games vs top teams to go with his bad ones).
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 15 2013 01:55 GMT
#2998
I try to switch it up everytime someone asks. My favourite is Skinned Chicken (mm, so chrispy & delicious.)

Truth is it's actually because I was a klazart fanboy when I made my LoL account.
Retvrn to Forvms
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 15 2013 02:04 GMT
#2999
On March 15 2013 10:55 Chrispy wrote:
I try to switch it up everytime someone asks. My favourite is Skinned Chicken (mm, so chrispy & delicious.)

Truth is it's actually because I was a klazart fanboy when I made my LoL account.

I originally thought it meant Starcraft. Good to see there's still the BW undercurrent around.

Also talking fast is good.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#3000
On March 15 2013 10:54 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 07:04 RagequitBM wrote:
Jeez. Every episode of Gamecribs makes me dislike Regi more, and more. He just acts so toxic.
On the flip side, every episode makes me like Xpecial, oddone, and Dyrus more.

And I think a big reason TSM came back is because Kog maw is incomparably stronger late game than Ezreal. Especially with what Zuna built.


I find it funny how much crap someone like HSGG cops when it is obvious that regi has a shit attitude and his ingame performance has been rubbish (At least HS has had some good games vs top teams to go with his bad ones).


if you let your attitudes about players be influenced by a reality show you are pretty foolish, they sign on knowing they will be portrayed into completely different roles as the producers see fit. Its a really really terrible way to get real information about them. A few cuts and editing can make anyone look like jesus or a total ass, and they want both to make the show entertaining.
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