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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 16 2012 07:47 GMT
#721
On December 16 2012 16:46 gtrsrs wrote:
i disagree on all accounts except that his laning is good (because it is); he's a genuinely nice and considerate human being, his teamfighting is outstanding, his map awareness is better than 99% of high elo players (i guess that's not hard but worth mentioning) and his decision making is at least better than average

when he tries hard he's an unstoppable beast

www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 16 2012 07:48 GMT
#722
he's almost as good as shake drizzle and he's quickly becoming my favorite pro
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#723
"a genuinely nice and considerate human being"

that may be true but every time I have seen him on a high-elo stream he flames and shit talks
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 16 2012 07:50 GMT
#724
you guyssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssszzzzzzzzzzzzz
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#725
All I know is his mechanics look pretty good from streams but it's hard to judge tops unless they've consistently performed at a certain level in tournies, with or without jungler pressure. I'm still trying to figure out whether Dyrus consistently does bad because oddone baits him or because of his own fault.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#726
pfft Gtrsrs so biased...

Wings is probably ok, but his mentality is really bad. He is one of those guys who will only consider playing pro if one of the top 3 teams approaches him first and asks him. If not he is just going to continue playing solo queue and making "more" money of that than becoming a pro

Cris is okay aswell, but I think we all know that Best Riven NA is the best toplaner world
washed
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2012 07:51 GMT
#727
Why are we still discussing this? There is nothing that substantiate that wodx will be playing for Dignitas.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#728
Obviously was confirmed on saint's stream. )
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#729
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra
I can't believe they managed to pull off the proxy strat in solo queue.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#730
On December 16 2012 16:49 Dusty wrote:
"a genuinely nice and considerate human being"

that may be true but every time I have seen him on a high-elo stream he flames and shit talks


i'm a fantastic person and i am an absolute terror in solo queue
solo queue just turns us all into monsters what can i say

On December 16 2012 16:51 Vlanitak wrote:
pfft Gtrsrs so biased...

Cris is okay aswell, but I think we all know that Best Riven NA is the best toplaner world


cris shit on BRNA the other night
i can't remember if it was scrim or r5 i'm looking for the post-game shot on elobuff right now huehue
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2012 07:58 GMT
#731
On December 16 2012 16:53 HazMat wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra
I can't believe they managed to pull off the proxy strat in solo queue.


What happened?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 16 2012 08:03 GMT
#732
On December 16 2012 16:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 16:53 HazMat wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra
I can't believe they managed to pull off the proxy strat in solo queue.


What happened?

4 TP, all 5 went top and took the tower as the creeps went to attack the tower by farming between the 2 towers and then spamming teleport on creeps so they wouldn't die.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2012 08:05 GMT
#733
On December 16 2012 17:03 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 16:58 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 16 2012 16:53 HazMat wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra
I can't believe they managed to pull off the proxy strat in solo queue.


What happened?

4 TP, all 5 went top and took the tower as the creeps went to attack the tower by farming between the 2 towers and then spamming teleport on creeps so they wouldn't die.


O_O
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2012 08:14 GMT
#734
On December 16 2012 16:14 overt wrote:
Just gotta say, I think that it'll be hilarious if WoDx plays like shit at every LAN after how much hype he's gotten as best top laner NA.

Well, I remember back in TSM.evo', I don't think I've ever seen WoDx severely lose a lane (obviously snowbally nature of toplane, there's bound for all top laners to lose lane; but he's one of the best from preventing it from snowballing), or be the reason why TSM.evo lost a game.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2012 08:21 GMT
#735
TSM.evo's problem was team synergy. I believe in regionals they could win all lanes against (?) curse, but faltered at teamfights.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 16 2012 08:24 GMT
#736
On December 16 2012 16:47 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 16:40 gtrsrs wrote:
i don't want to be that guy but
Cris is the best top laner in NA


Yeah, and I'm a billionaire.

Next week gtr will be saying grackis is the best player around, PL is the best mid, and azingy is a god tier jungle that forces lilballz to wear footypajamas.


I think this is my favorite post in these forums:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215597#8
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2012 08:28 GMT
#737
On December 16 2012 17:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 16:47 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 16 2012 16:40 gtrsrs wrote:
i don't want to be that guy but
Cris is the best top laner in NA


Yeah, and I'm a billionaire.

Next week gtr will be saying grackis is the best player around, PL is the best mid, and azingy is a god tier jungle that forces lilballz to wear footypajamas.


I think this is my favorite post in these forums:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215597#8


RUN FROM THE ELO POLICE
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 08:33:25
December 16 2012 08:28 GMT
#738
Wow, I decided to just play elise because she seemed so strong.

She is so good. My last like 15 games have been like 6-1, 9-3, 11-2, 7-1, I am just destroying.

Her jungle is SO STRONG! I actually think she is one of the fastest junglers in the game. She can take a buff in about 3 seconds. The AP spirit stone item is bonkers on her.

She can also 1v1 anyone and her ganks are absurd because she can gap close or dive from fucking 1075 range.

She DEFINITELY has a pretty severe learning curve, but as i play her more I am just doing better and better, I've made some obscene plays on her.

She's just got everything: really nice long poke, absurd burst damage and executions, longest gap closer in the game, a long range stun, AND sustained damage+AOE for clearing. Plus she has 3 different was to get vision: explosive spiderling, her stun, and her rappel.

Biggest mistake I see people is to level W over Q for jungling, it is NOT worth the damage and burst you lose, she clears excellently with it maxed second. I've tried it both ways and she is SO much stronger with Q>W. Correct usage of the execution in spider form makes for ultra fast camp clearing and is MASSIVELY better in ganks than W. The amount of damage you can do with a spider form Q is hilarious when you prioritize the skill.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
December 16 2012 08:32 GMT
#739
On December 16 2012 17:21 Sufficiency wrote:
TSM.evo's problem was team synergy. I believe in regionals they could win all lanes against (?) curse, but faltered at teamfights.

I seem to be remembering it as they were all really into being on the team when it started, but due to the age of some people having to deal with highschool they couldn't get try hard enough in preparation before Aphromoo got bored and left. WoDx only joined because Aphromoo was there so after their S2 run was over he left. Then, with the 1 team/region rule for S3, there was nowhere to go from there.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 16 2012 08:36 GMT
#740
On December 16 2012 17:32 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:21 Sufficiency wrote:
TSM.evo's problem was team synergy. I believe in regionals they could win all lanes against (?) curse, but faltered at teamfights.

I seem to be remembering it as they were all really into being on the team when it started, but due to the age of some people having to deal with highschool they couldn't get try hard enough in preparation before Aphromoo got bored and left. WoDx only joined because Aphromoo was there so after their S2 run was over he left. Then, with the 1 team/region rule for S3, there was nowhere to go from there.

Also they never ever ever practiced
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