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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 04 2013 14:50 GMT
#5561
Might need to start banning blitz again, just had the worst Nunu support platinum player ever in my team, he starts Reju+Faerie + 1(!!!) ward against a blitz lane and I tell him over and over that I need brush vision for blitz and that he either has to ward it or just go fucking in there whoc ares if nunu gets grabbed. Na he doesn't and doesn't even realize that not giving me Blitz vision is zoning me entirely from cs'ing as vayne haha.

Just saw the PBE patchnotes, wtf Lee Sin nerfes, totally doesn't need to be nerfed, riot overreacting again.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#5562
On January 04 2013 22:15 AsnSensation wrote:
Anyone here using Win8? I had to re-setup my pc and wanted to give it a try but had A TON of adobe launcher crashes ever since reinstalling lol while I never had it once under win7. Happens mostly in champselect and then I gotta wait 30-60minutes to queue again =(. Sometimes it even happens when I'm trying to login.


update air from adobe's website and launch again using the admin launcher.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 15:11:15
January 04 2013 15:09 GMT
#5563
That feeling when you destroy your opponent 4-0, take his tower, then decide to roam because the other two lanes are failing, and they proceed to think you come to give them breathing room and the AoE farmer you just destroyed free farms his way back into the game.
So frustrating.

(Also I'll never build zeke instead of BT again when I'm ahead like that.)

Regarding Lee I won't complain, partly because I don't play him so I have no idea how strong it really is on him, and partly because he's one of the champs that make top lane so boring. o_o Sustains from nothing to 75% on golems, or during you cooldowns, till he crushes you, or you're strong enough and it's just a farmfest.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#5564
Shit, I just accidentally stumbled upon Neo's Twitter account and now I have a mancrush.
currently rooting for myself.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#5565
On January 05 2013 00:36 Shiv. wrote:
Shit, I just accidentally stumbled upon Neo's Twitter account and now I have a mancrush.

Link for the good of the thread.
It's your boy Guzma!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 04 2013 15:44 GMT
#5566
On January 04 2013 12:37 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 12:20 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why was no one important died disqualified?


because they cheated in the IPL qualifier tournament
there was a huge reddit thing on it
but i don't have the right screens saved any more

basically zekent and robert asked a spectator where wards were during a pause


two different teams bro
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 04 2013 15:46 GMT
#5567
On January 05 2013 00:43 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:36 Shiv. wrote:
Shit, I just accidentally stumbled upon Neo's Twitter account and now I have a mancrush.

Link for the good of the thread.


https://twitter.com/NeoIllusions
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
January 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#5568
On January 05 2013 00:46 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:43 Requizen wrote:
On January 05 2013 00:36 Shiv. wrote:
Shit, I just accidentally stumbled upon Neo's Twitter account and now I have a mancrush.

Link for the good of the thread.


https://twitter.com/NeoIllusions



Hello, Jack.
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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 16:00:18
January 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#5569
On January 05 2013 00:44 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 12:37 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 04 2013 12:20 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why was no one important died disqualified?


because they cheated in the IPL qualifier tournament
there was a huge reddit thing on it
but i don't have the right screens saved any more

basically zekent and robert asked a spectator where wards were during a pause


two different teams bro


I'm pretty sure before the incident, the "AL" team was already split up, there just wasn't an announcement. Then, with Robert and Zekent on NOID, with nubbypoohbear and whoever else is on the team, played against TD and ghosted. After that incident, AL made the annoucement that they parted with the team even though the team was basically already split up before the incident even happened.

Players on NOID: Unstoppable, Cruzer, Nubby, Zekent, and Robert. Robert joined NOID after the AL split, and wanted his own support, so they replaced their former support player CheckMinus with Zekent.

Pic related: http://ggchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/alcheating.jpg
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#5570
On January 04 2013 23:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Might need to start banning blitz again, just had the worst Nunu support platinum player ever in my team, he starts Reju+Faerie + 1(!!!) ward against a blitz lane and I tell him over and over that I need brush vision for blitz and that he either has to ward it or just go fucking in there whoc ares if nunu gets grabbed. Na he doesn't and doesn't even realize that not giving me Blitz vision is zoning me entirely from cs'ing as vayne haha.

Just saw the PBE patchnotes, wtf Lee Sin nerfes, totally doesn't need to be nerfed, riot overreacting again.


I'm glad he's getting nerfed because I hate him. Not because of his damage and stuff but the chance of having a competent Lee Sin is 5%. Maybe nobody will pick and feed with him now.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#5571
So what do you do with Poppy nowadays? Health regen seems to suck all around so all my old Poppy builds are worthless. Or is she just bottom of the shit tier once again?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
January 04 2013 16:07 GMT
#5572
Black cleaver getting re-nerfed again. Went from 6.25% to 7.5, and back down to 6.25% in the PBE.
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22767-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-3-2013
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 04 2013 16:08 GMT
#5573
Destroying one of the most fun, rewarding and high skillcap heroes in the game just so that you won't get the occasional baddie that doesn't quite know how to play him?
This. This is what's wrong with the community. The correct way to handle the situation is to release another champion who rivals Lee, not nerf him. Riot is, unfortunately, yet again, showing that they don't know how to make this game fun. Riot legitimately doesn't know how else to balance their game other than just nerfing problems to keep the community happy. Remember that most people are very bad at this game, and many people being happy means more money for riot.
I apologise if I sound bitter. I still love this game but I'm sad that Riot keeps on making these decisions.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 04 2013 16:10 GMT
#5574
I actually think that thanks to flask+mass pot opening poppy has a decent early laning phase unless you're laning against Darius or rumble.

still not sure if iceborn gauntlet is worth it over Triforce.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
January 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#5575
On January 05 2013 01:10 AsnSensation wrote:
I actually think that thanks to flask+mass pot opening poppy has a decent early laning phase unless you're laning against Darius or rumble.

still not sure if iceborn gauntlet is worth it over Triforce.


I think Iceborn is worth it over Triforce on melee champions, im not sure if its worth it on ranged champions with the change.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 16:20:44
January 04 2013 16:19 GMT
#5576
Lets not kid ourselves, lee sin is extremely strong. But I dont really understand the nerfs at all, all they do is force lee sin to be a mid laner which is a weird way to go about it. All he needed was that slow reduced on E, except more then they nerfed it and thats it. armor loss really really hurts his top/jungle.

What I hate most is that they put out incomplete patches, there are sooo many champs that needs nerfs right now not just lee. hope the real patch notes are really long because this game needs a pretty big overhaul in its current state
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 04 2013 16:22 GMT
#5577
On January 05 2013 01:08 OutlaW- wrote:
Destroying one of the most fun, rewarding and high skillcap heroes in the game just so that you won't get the occasional baddie that doesn't quite know how to play him?
This. This is what's wrong with the community. The correct way to handle the situation is to release another champion who rivals Lee, not nerf him. Riot is, unfortunately, yet again, showing that they don't know how to make this game fun. Riot legitimately doesn't know how else to balance their game other than just nerfing problems to keep the community happy. Remember that most people are very bad at this game, and many people being happy means more money for riot.
I apologise if I sound bitter. I still love this game but I'm sad that Riot keeps on making these decisions.


because a random guy who doesn't like lee sin is responsible for the riots decision? I think they nerfed him because of how popular/strong in top level play he was in almost any lane. He wins almost all lanes and is one of the strongest gankers in the game, he got a slight nerf to his W and E and it's like AMG UNVIABLE HERO

wat
aka Teutonica
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 16:23:37
January 04 2013 16:22 GMT
#5578
On January 05 2013 01:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Lets not kid ourselves, lee sin is extremely strong. But I dont really understand the nerfs at all, all they do is force lee sin to be a mid laner which is a weird way to go about it. All he needed was that slow reduced on E, except more then they nerfed it and thats it. armor loss really really hurts his top/jungle.

What I hate most is that they put out incomplete patches, there are sooo many champs that needs nerfs right now not just lee. hope the real patch notes are really long because this game needs a pretty big overhaul in its current state



I think the nerfs were needed tbh. Lee sin was and is one of the strongest top laners. He doesn't really have a weak matchup. Nerfing his armor but giving him more sustain still puts him at a good spot both at top and in the jungle.
It just makes it so you cant faceroll through the lane and be smart about your trades.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 04 2013 16:22 GMT
#5579
On January 05 2013 01:05 Shikyo wrote:
So what do you do with Poppy nowadays? Health regen seems to suck all around so all my old Poppy builds are worthless. Or is she just bottom of the shit tier once again?

I think she still suffers from her old-fashioned design. Hybrid builds never really worked in LoL, I still don't know how to itemize her properply. Compared to most of new characters, she doesn't have AD ratios on her skills that would allow to build Bruta and kill shit.
With flask and pots you can probably lane decently, get maybe an Iceborn Gauntlet after your Sheen but then ? I doubt she's gonna be as bursty as an assassin compared to some rengar/khazix.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 04 2013 16:24 GMT
#5580
On January 05 2013 01:08 OutlaW- wrote:
Destroying one of the most fun, rewarding and high skillcap heroes in the game just so that you won't get the occasional baddie that doesn't quite know how to play him?
This. This is what's wrong with the community. The correct way to handle the situation is to release another champion who rivals Lee, not nerf him. Riot is, unfortunately, yet again, showing that they don't know how to make this game fun. Riot legitimately doesn't know how else to balance their game other than just nerfing problems to keep the community happy. Remember that most people are very bad at this game, and many people being happy means more money for riot.
I apologise if I sound bitter. I still love this game but I'm sad that Riot keeps on making these decisions.

Oh no, they're removing armor and nerfing his early slow. He'll somehow have to make do with having a (slightly worse) slow, lifesteal, spellvamp, 2 dashes, a displacement, high damage, free attack speed, an execute, teammate shielding, ward hopping, and one of the most easily managed resources in the game.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but fuck Lee. I've hated him since I started playing. Here's a champ who has nearly every tool in the game, but it's ok because "he's hard to play".

He's still going to be strong as hell anyway.
It's your boy Guzma!
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